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These sound like very outlandish claims ... what are your thoughts @DeinoHi,
Thank you for posting that video---.
In a few years from now---when pakistan is well off & independent---the truth about the design of the JF17 being based on the F20 and the f18 would come out---.
The truth about how the Paf engineers helped the chinese upgrade the J10---J20 into a better and a finer machine would also be a big surprise for the many of them---when the information comes out---maybe in another decade or so---.
These sound like very outlandish claims ... what are your thoughts @Deino
If you provide a claim, especially as extreme sounding as this one, the least we would expect of you is to show some basic evidence. Is it wrong to ask for substantiation?OOOOOhhhh---I am shaking---you called the "show me the link" police on me---.
If you provide a claim, especially as extreme sounding as this one, the least we would expect of you is to show some basic evidence. Is it wrong to ask for substantiation?
If you provide a claim, especially as extreme sounding as this one, the least we would expect of you is to show some basic evidence. Is it wrong to ask for substantiation?
Hi,
Thank you for posting that video---.
In a few years from now---when pakistan is well off & independent---the truth about the design of the JF17 being based on the F20 and the f18 would come out---.
The truth about how the Paf engineers helped the chinese upgrade the J10---J20 into a better and a finer machine would also be a big surprise for the many of them---when the information comes out---maybe in another decade or so---.
These sound like very outlandish claims ... what are your thoughts @Deino
Judging by this thread, there were no clarifications on any of the 50 issues, with numerous posters questioning the OP's post or pointing out the issues were minor. AFAIK, the main issue why Pakistan did not buy the J-10 in the past was because of the Russian engine. I would assume this stems from Pakistan not wanting to have a repeat of the JF-17 with the RD-93 engine ... which is very reasonable. Now, there is much greater interest in the J-10C because they are finally being mass produced with Chinese engines. This alone is enough to completely reverse the export prospects as the lack of a domestic engine was a huge barrier to export.Well, Pakistan did lose nearly all interest in the FC-1 program in the 1990s as the PAF thought Chinese were incapable of building a quality fighter comparable to the F-16. That is until ACM Shahid Latif took over the project. He explained to the Chinese what PAF wanted out of the JF-17 program, not what the Chinese were offering.
Later, when the joint venture was offered to Pakistan on the J-10 around 2001-2002, again ACM Shahid Latif rejected it and identified at least 50 faults with the J-10 years later when it was offered for sale.
There's a detailed thread on this matter in the forum.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/identifying-50-issues-with-j-10a-for-paf.638650/
Judging by this thread, there were no clarifications on any of the 50 issues, with numerous posters questioning the OP's post or pointing out the issues were minor. AFAIK, the main issue why Pakistan did not buy the J-10 in the past was because of the Russian engine. I would assume this stems from Pakistan not wanting to have a repeat of the JF-17 with the RD-93 engine ... which is very reasonable. Now, there is much greater interest in the J-10C because they are finally being mass produced with Chinese engines. This alone is enough to completely reverse the export prospects as the lack of a domestic engine was a huge barrier to export.
Hi,
The acknowledgement from the best analyst on fighter aircraft design structure utility---.
Some of his comments were eye popping---just slipped them right thru---.
What do you think @Armchair---?