JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Mani2020]

Dude trust me knows stuff once he ended up sharing a stuff he almost got beaten. I know this guy all those in Air Force and lives in Kamra knows this. He doesn't share any information which is not allowed any information he shares is given to him only when it is okay to share outside. He is young but very smart knows what to share and what know. Things he share are only shared by after he gets permission from PAF seniors

Like Su-35 ??? Which even was categorically denied by officials.... or EFT 2000? or ,....heck its a long list !!!

 

[Zarvan]

Like Su-35 ??? Which even was categorically denied by officials.... or EFT 2000? or ,....heck its a long list !!!

No they were never denied Janab they were never ever denied. We are doing lot of things in background. And as for Rohail he hardly comes up with news of deal with other countries on other projects his mainly news are related to things made by Kamra

 

[Mani2020]

No they were never denied Janab they were never ever denied. We are doing lot of things in background. And as for Rohail he hardly comes up with news of deal with other countries on other projects his mainly news are related to things made by Kamra

Why they are in background for last atleast half a dozen years !!! and whats holding them from bringing these to foreground !!!

 

[Zarvan]

Why they are in background for last atleast half a dozen years !!! and whats holding them from bringing these to foreground !!!

Because things stop and they start again many times. That happens and still happening I have some news but can't share but if you think India getting 36 Rafale and now tender for 110 more fighter jets issued and we would for 5th Generation to come than you are wrong

 

[Mani2020]

Because things stop and they start again many times. That happens and still happening I have some news but can't share but if you think India getting 36 Rafale and now tender for 110 more fighter jets issued and we would for 5th Generation to come than you are wrong

Mate as much as I would love to see su35 or ef2000 in paf but in retrospect of your so many claims I can't digest it ...

With sorry heart I have to say that either the person who is your source (as per you) is feeding you with wrong info or you are being delusional and over excited

 

[Zarvan]

Mate as much as I would love to see su35 or ef2000 in paf but in retrospect of your so many claims I can't digest it ...

With sorry heart I have to say that either the person who is your source (as per you) is feeding you with wrong info or you are being delusional and over excited

I am neither delusional nor over excited now even Defense Minister of Pakistan just confirmed we are in talks with Russia for SU-35 and S-400 and T-90 so Janab I was right all along just knew information way before than others

Pakistan in talks with Russia for procurement of sophisticated arms, says defence minister

PHOTO COURTESY: SPUTNIK

Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan has said that Pakistan is in direct talks with the Russian Federation for the procurement of sophisticated military hardware, including air defence systems, fighter jets and battle tanks, reported Sputnik.

The minister confirmed that Islamabad was interested in buying weapons from Moscow in an interview to the Russian news agency on Thursday, in which he also talked about increased cooperation with Kremlin which mirrors Pakistan’s wider geo-strategic concerns.

“Air defence system is a different kind of weapon we are interested. We are very much interested in a very wide range of the Russian weapons technology. We are in negotiations [on air defence systems] and once we conclude negotiations, we will be able to announce them,” Khan told the Russian publication.







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The defence minister also outlined that Islamabad was interested in acquiring T-90 tanks from Moscow as part of a long-term deal rather than committing itself to a single purchase.

“We are interested in tanks T-90 and it is not going to be a one-time purchase but it is going to be a long-term commitment,” Khan stated.

He added that negotiations for the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighter jets are in their early stages, and an agreement in this regard may be reached “in the next few years”, according to the Russian website.

As US influence wanes, Russia embraces Pakistan with energy deals, military partnership

Regional cooperation

Talking about security issues in South and Central Asia, the defence minister noted that both Pakistan and Russia were interested in a stable and democratic Afghanistan.

“We respect Afghanistan’s sovereignty. Stability in Afghanistan is important for Pakistan to be able to develop its own prosperous future, to access to the Russian market, for example, by land route. Democratic and stable Afghanistan is in the deep the interest of both Russia and Pakistan,” the minister stated.

He also lauded recent efforts by the Kremlin, which aim to bring stability to Afghanistan, highlighting the need for other global powers to devise a similar plan to defeat terrorism all over the world.

Japan, S Korea can buy more sophisticated US military equipment: Trump

“We are supporting the Russian regional approach to Afghanistan and we hope that not only Russia but also China, Iran and of course the United States can sit together at the table and devise a way in which we can achieve internal peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan,” Khan was quoted as saying by Sputnik.

The defence minister added that a new approach to solve the issues in Afghanistan by senior government leaders in Kabul was a positive step, which showed that the Afghan president was interested in ending the conflict, rather than winning the prolonged war.

“One positive step that has happened recently is a genuine approach by President Ghani when he had said that he no longer wants to win the war, but to end the conflict,” the minister remarked.

“To win the war was the American approach but now the Afghan approach is closer to Pakistan’s position on the matter. Pakistan’s highest priority regarding Afghanistan is to have a peaceful, democratic, and stable neighbor,” Khan underlined.

There has been a dramatic escalation in violence all over Afghanistan ever since US President Donald Trump took office in early 2017 and announced a new aggressive strategy for the region, putting Pakistan in the spotlight. Moscow has hosted a number of peace conferences on the issue in the past few months.

Bilateral relationship

Reiterating the expansion of bilateral ties between the two countries, Khan told the Russian news agency that Islamabad was looking forward to enhancing defence cooperation with Moscow in all areas, which include procurement of weapons, military training exercises and intelligence sharing.

“In the defense field, we signed a historical and unprecedented Pakistan-Russia defense agreement in 2014. As a result, we have been able to conduct joint exercises.”

“Pakistan has purchased Russian Mi-35 helicopters and now we are looking at a much wider range of defense cooperation. In terms of training, Pakistani officers are coming to Russia and Russian officers are going to Pakistani facilities for training,” he informed the reporters.

“We are also now discussing a wider range of military exercises, we are looking at a wider range of military equipment and intelligence sharing,” Khan said on the sidelines of the Moscow Conference on International Security (MCIS).

China likely to build military base in Pakistan: US

Historically, Pakistan and Russia have been on the opposite side of the conflict in Afghanistan, but the former Cold War foes have now developed a mutual understanding on many international issues, according to Khan.

“Of course we have a history of the Afghan war in which we have been on opposite sides, but now as the second decade of the 21st century ends, we will be able to look at world realities with a different eye.”

“I am delighted to say that Pakistan and Russia are largely in agreement on major international issues like Afghanistan, fighting drug trafficking and the situation in the Middle East. We are now looking at almost all aspects of defense and there is excellent goodwill between our leadership,” he underlined.

The defence minister also expressed that Pakistan was grateful for Russian support in its bid for membership to the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, which it joined in 2017.

This article originally appeared on Sputnik News

https://tribune.com.pk/story/167975...ent-sophisticated-arms-says-defence-minister/

 

[denel]

I am neither delusional nor over excited now even Defense Minister of Pakistan just confirmed we are in talks with Russia for SU-35 and S-400 and T-90 so Janab I was right all along just knew information way before than others

Pakistan in talks with Russia for procurement of sophisticated arms, says defence minister

PHOTO COURTESY: SPUTNIK

Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan has said that Pakistan is in direct talks with the Russian Federation for the procurement of sophisticated military hardware, including air defence systems, fighter jets and battle tanks, reported Sputnik.

The minister confirmed that Islamabad was interested in buying weapons from Moscow in an interview to the Russian news agency on Thursday, in which he also talked about increased cooperation with Kremlin which mirrors Pakistan’s wider geo-strategic concerns.

“Air defence system is a different kind of weapon we are interested. We are very much interested in a very wide range of the Russian weapons technology. We are in negotiations [on air defence systems] and once we conclude negotiations, we will be able to announce them,” Khan told the Russian publication.







Learn more

Advertisement





The defence minister also outlined that Islamabad was interested in acquiring T-90 tanks from Moscow as part of a long-term deal rather than committing itself to a single purchase.

“We are interested in tanks T-90 and it is not going to be a one-time purchase but it is going to be a long-term commitment,” Khan stated.

He added that negotiations for the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighter jets are in their early stages, and an agreement in this regard may be reached “in the next few years”, according to the Russian website.

As US influence wanes, Russia embraces Pakistan with energy deals, military partnership

Regional cooperation

Talking about security issues in South and Central Asia, the defence minister noted that both Pakistan and Russia were interested in a stable and democratic Afghanistan.

“We respect Afghanistan’s sovereignty. Stability in Afghanistan is important for Pakistan to be able to develop its own prosperous future, to access to the Russian market, for example, by land route. Democratic and stable Afghanistan is in the deep the interest of both Russia and Pakistan,” the minister stated.

He also lauded recent efforts by the Kremlin, which aim to bring stability to Afghanistan, highlighting the need for other global powers to devise a similar plan to defeat terrorism all over the world.

Japan, S Korea can buy more sophisticated US military equipment: Trump

“We are supporting the Russian regional approach to Afghanistan and we hope that not only Russia but also China, Iran and of course the United States can sit together at the table and devise a way in which we can achieve internal peace and reconciliation in Afghanistan,” Khan was quoted as saying by Sputnik.

The defence minister added that a new approach to solve the issues in Afghanistan by senior government leaders in Kabul was a positive step, which showed that the Afghan president was interested in ending the conflict, rather than winning the prolonged war.

“One positive step that has happened recently is a genuine approach by President Ghani when he had said that he no longer wants to win the war, but to end the conflict,” the minister remarked.

“To win the war was the American approach but now the Afghan approach is closer to Pakistan’s position on the matter. Pakistan’s highest priority regarding Afghanistan is to have a peaceful, democratic, and stable neighbor,” Khan underlined.

There has been a dramatic escalation in violence all over Afghanistan ever since US President Donald Trump took office in early 2017 and announced a new aggressive strategy for the region, putting Pakistan in the spotlight. Moscow has hosted a number of peace conferences on the issue in the past few months.

Bilateral relationship

Reiterating the expansion of bilateral ties between the two countries, Khan told the Russian news agency that Islamabad was looking forward to enhancing defence cooperation with Moscow in all areas, which include procurement of weapons, military training exercises and intelligence sharing.

“In the defense field, we signed a historical and unprecedented Pakistan-Russia defense agreement in 2014. As a result, we have been able to conduct joint exercises.”

“Pakistan has purchased Russian Mi-35 helicopters and now we are looking at a much wider range of defense cooperation. In terms of training, Pakistani officers are coming to Russia and Russian officers are going to Pakistani facilities for training,” he informed the reporters.

“We are also now discussing a wider range of military exercises, we are looking at a wider range of military equipment and intelligence sharing,” Khan said on the sidelines of the Moscow Conference on International Security (MCIS).

China likely to build military base in Pakistan: US

Historically, Pakistan and Russia have been on the opposite side of the conflict in Afghanistan, but the former Cold War foes have now developed a mutual understanding on many international issues, according to Khan.

“Of course we have a history of the Afghan war in which we have been on opposite sides, but now as the second decade of the 21st century ends, we will be able to look at world realities with a different eye.”

“I am delighted to say that Pakistan and Russia are largely in agreement on major international issues like Afghanistan, fighting drug trafficking and the situation in the Middle East. We are now looking at almost all aspects of defense and there is excellent goodwill between our leadership,” he underlined.

The defence minister also expressed that Pakistan was grateful for Russian support in its bid for membership to the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, which it joined in 2017.

This article originally appeared on Sputnik News

https://tribune.com.pk/story/167975...ent-sophisticated-arms-says-defence-minister/

This was discussed in another thread; it is pure posturing. Why get T90 when AlKhalid and its newer version is underway plus newer projects with Ukraine.

 

[Zarvan]

This was discussed in another thread; it is pure posturing. Why get T90 when AlKhalid and its newer version is underway plus newer projects with Ukraine.

T-90 or OPLOT or VT 4 will be selected to replace older Tanks. Pakistani Army mindset never wants to have only one Tank in Arsenal even if we have massive production line. AL KHALID will be our main Tank T-90 or OPLOT will be replacement for older tanks like T-59 and T-69 and T-85 and in future Al Zarrar

 

[Bratva]

JF-17 Block III deal has been inked, Production will start from May 2019, by the end of 2019 we'll have 8 Block III Dual seaters. By the end of 2020 we'll have 22 dual seaters and 2 single seat.
Also PAC will produce Wing Loong II under ToT

What about French HMD ? Is it coming or not ? And are they gonna test French HMD in JF-17 B ? What about extra hardpoints in Block-3 ?

 

[Zarvan]

What about French HMD ? Is it coming or not ? And are they gonna test French HMD in JF-17 B ? What about extra hardpoints in Block-3 ?

Message on FB I can tell you there

 

[BATMAN]

What about French HMD ? Is it coming or not ? And are they gonna test French HMD in JF-17 B ? What about extra hardpoints in Block-3 ?

From where did you got the drift of French HMD?

 

[Arsalan]

Dude trust me knows stuff once he ended up sharing a stuff he almost got beaten. I know this guy all those in Air Force and lives in Kamra knows this. He doesn't share any information which is not allowed any information he shares is given to him only when it is okay to share outside. He is young but very smart knows what to share and what know. Things he share are only shared by after he gets permission from PAF seniors

Well then that is good for a change!!
Normally the most authentic news are from Facebook.

 

[Chak Bamu]

You can never tell if some 'news' is authentic or purposely planted for whatever reason. Its best to wait for actual verification. Rumors are just rumors - they could be pure flights of fancy, or willful misinformation, or chatter about something authentic. Nothing can be for certain and that is how it should be.

I would not be surprised if PAF actually put misinformation out there on purpose. That would actually be smart thing to do.

 

[araz]

You can never tell if some 'news' is authentic or purposely planted for whatever reason. Its best to wait for actual verification. Rumors are just rumors - they could be pure flights of fancy, or willful misinformation, or chatter about something authentic. Nothing can be for certain and that is how it should be.

I would not be surprised if PAF actually put misinformation out there on purpose. That would actually be smart thing to do.

Absolutely. These boards are watched by people. Information is fed in for posturing and deception. Even if authentic, things can change due to various reasons. So always best to listen with a pinch of salt and quote but if someone disagrees then leave the matter. Even people like Usman Shabbir and Hkhan were often wrong. I got wind of 8 F16s being negotiated in 2008 from a friend in US who could not tell me what the reason for the number being 8 was. It came about and then went down the drain last year. So things happen.
I would watch this spate of protestations of alliances with the red Bear. There are too many hurdles, the Green one being the most common. I htink the S400 is a dream , SU35 a big maybe and the Tanks a No No although sub systems are a possibility.
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[Armchair]

HMD is probably locally made or Thales, if certain hints by senior posters here is to be believed. Again taken with a pinch of salt as suggested by Araz.