JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[messiach]

Looks like a carbon-laminate or an Aramid form!. Most weight reduction can only come with turbine compressor replacements.

 

[CriticalThought]

Looks like a carbon-laminate or an Aramid form!. Most weight reduction can only come with turbine compressor replacements.

Thank you madam! Could this help with reducing the RCS from rear side?

 

[malikahmed91279]

Jf 17 blk3 will be place on MMRCA ? or paf will explore another option, because we need a mediam weight fighter

 

[messiach]

No.

Thank you madam! Could this help with reducing the RCS from rear side?

 

[WarFariX]

In the pics/videos for JF-17B, I remember reading that green areas represent usage of composite materials in the airframe. If that is so, then what does this picture mean? The picture is taken from here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-...r-successfully-developed.496875/#post-9496040

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The workmen are definitely Pakistani, so this has to be PAC. The serial number reads 2P04 which I understand means Block 2 production number 4. Am I reading this correctly?

@Windjammer @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Oscar @Bilal Khan 777

i have heard that these green pics represent wet areas where fuel is stored/travels could someone please clear the doubts at least

 

[messiach]

Zn chromate on metal can appear apple-green. Aramid can appear darker aswell.

i have heard that these green pics represent wet areas where fuel is stored/travels could someone please clear the doubts at least

 

[WarFariX]

Zn chromate on metal can appear apple-green. Aramid can appear darker aswell.

what is aramid ? and do you mean that green parts are composites? Because i doubt that green parts are composite materials since our wings also have some carbon composites but wings are still yellow

 

[krash]

Thunder is still in modernisation process.But I wonder if it can compete against what indian airforce refers to AMCA.

You mean that weird drawing on paper?

 

[WarFariX]

You mean that weird drawing on paper?

with those wide vertical stabilizers :-/

 

[Thorough Pro]

http://www.aramid.eu/

what is aramid ? and do you mean that green parts are composites? Because i doubt that green parts are composite materials since our wings also have some carbon composites but wings are still yellow

 

[Readerdefence]

Chinese fighter a strong Western flavor, color values of ultra-high pressure to make Russia Alexander
2017-04-30
fourth generation F-weight

99% of military fans could not help but point here


April 27 successful maiden flight JF-17B Xiaolong 00 batches of 01 two-seater machine, represents a significant milestone Xiaolong fighter series development, but also greatly enhance the aircraft into a flight of Xiaolong fighters in the international market competitiveness an important step.



JF-17B BC01 airplane, however, the meaning is unknown BC JF-17 with respect to a single plane, the main improvement is JF-17B: increase the cockpit, the overall side-opening canopy; higher redesigned wider spine, adjust instrument cabin and back to the tank arrangement make space for mounting the cockpit; redesign more swept vertical tail, to trim the aircraft center of gravity; dress stronger cabin environmental control system to meet the needs of two pilots; optimization of the machine tank layout to reduce the adverse effect on the cockpit mounted machine oil, an increase of the vertical tail and strip tank; NLG with new LED landing lights and the like.


As a combat trainer, in addition to two-seat outboard of the fuselage of the biggest changes JF-17B is the spine of the new design. JF-17B spine and JL-9 trainer Eagle relatively smoothly vary spine. Its top and side more straight lines more clearly, more interior volume, a bit like rice turtle F-16F Block60, Western Winter Solstice, the ultra-high color value in the eyes of the user. In addition to internal spine avionics, also placed a large fuel tank. Further JF-17B and the interior fin edge strips on both sides also the addition of the tank, so that the internal oil remains substantially in a single plane JF-17 with the same level. Of course, due to the increased body weight and resistance, JF-17B and the maximum flying speed range were slightly decreased.




Another significant feature of the UAE Air Force F-16F Block60JF-17B is subsequently swept fin. Due to the addition of the cockpit, the forward fuselage weight is inevitably increased. To keep balance JF-17B used with the JL-9G similar swept-fin design, it will not maintain the center of gravity of the aircraft over a certain range in advance, thus eliminating the need for re-assembly of the rear fuselage. Compared with the JF-17 single-seater, JF-17B and the height of the vertical tail area has not increased significantly, suggesting that JF-17B's flight control system is quite stable and reliable aircraft still has good maneuverability at high angles of attack. Although still unable to confirm whether the JF-17B is equipped with four redundant full authority fly-by system, but its flight control system software is certainly the latest version of the upgrade.





Other highlights JF-17B and JL-9G comparison chart JF-17B further includes an integral side-opening canopy. JL-9 it more older segment canopy different, more similar to JL-10 monolithic cockpit cover, higher color values. JF-17B while also installed a new cabin environmental control system to meet the needs of two pilots, for installation of the front right side of the body one exhaust port. Further JF-17B before a new gear is mounted landing light, a small LED lights 16, having a luminance less power-hungry, good reliability advantages, it is learned that in the first application of LED landing lights on military aircraft made. Second, because JF-17B is triturated in JF-17 Block2 configuration basis, thereby retaining the flight refueling and a right inlet air refueling preceding night lamp. Further aft JF-17B further adds a multifunction display, the place of the HUD, the front compartment can simultaneously display HUD image.




FIG cockpit JF-17B, four configured as a multi-function display Aft is reported JF-17B retains a complete fire-control system comprises KLJ-7, including the fire control radar, JF-17 have the same single plane STV from the air combat capability and ground precision strike capability, and therefore have a higher cost of combat trainer. The two pilots in actual combat may be a division of labor, the front cabin of the pilots responsible for flight operations, while the rear cabin of the pilot in charge of arms control and locking emission. This is to reduce the burden on the pilot, the pilot can also enhance situation awareness, thereby increasing the JF-17B combat effectiveness and survivability. We believe that in the near future JF-17 fighter Xiaolong series there will be a substantial breakthrough in the international market, so that the Russian fighter Alexander outlet pressure!

Can be a HMD for block 3

 

[Taimoor Khan]

i have heard that these green pics represent wet areas where fuel is stored/travels could someone please clear the doubts at least

That is correct.

 

[Path-Finder]

Chinese fighter a strong Western flavor, color values of ultra-high pressure to make Russia Alexander
2017-04-30
fourth generation F-weight

99% of military fans could not help but point here


April 27 successful maiden flight JF-17B Xiaolong 00 batches of 01 two-seater machine, represents a significant milestone Xiaolong fighter series development, but also greatly enhance the aircraft into a flight of Xiaolong fighters in the international market competitiveness an important step.



JF-17B BC01 airplane, however, the meaning is unknown BC JF-17 with respect to a single plane, the main improvement is JF-17B: increase the cockpit, the overall side-opening canopy; higher redesigned wider spine, adjust instrument cabin and back to the tank arrangement make space for mounting the cockpit; redesign more swept vertical tail, to trim the aircraft center of gravity; dress stronger cabin environmental control system to meet the needs of two pilots; optimization of the machine tank layout to reduce the adverse effect on the cockpit mounted machine oil, an increase of the vertical tail and strip tank; NLG with new LED landing lights and the like.


As a combat trainer, in addition to two-seat outboard of the fuselage of the biggest changes JF-17B is the spine of the new design. JF-17B spine and JL-9 trainer Eagle relatively smoothly vary spine. Its top and side more straight lines more clearly, more interior volume, a bit like rice turtle F-16F Block60, Western Winter Solstice, the ultra-high color value in the eyes of the user. In addition to internal spine avionics, also placed a large fuel tank. Further JF-17B and the interior fin edge strips on both sides also the addition of the tank, so that the internal oil remains substantially in a single plane JF-17 with the same level. Of course, due to the increased body weight and resistance, JF-17B and the maximum flying speed range were slightly decreased.




Another significant feature of the UAE Air Force F-16F Block60JF-17B is subsequently swept fin. Due to the addition of the cockpit, the forward fuselage weight is inevitably increased. To keep balance JF-17B used with the JL-9G similar swept-fin design, it will not maintain the center of gravity of the aircraft over a certain range in advance, thus eliminating the need for re-assembly of the rear fuselage. Compared with the JF-17 single-seater, JF-17B and the height of the vertical tail area has not increased significantly, suggesting that JF-17B's flight control system is quite stable and reliable aircraft still has good maneuverability at high angles of attack. Although still unable to confirm whether the JF-17B is equipped with four redundant full authority fly-by system, but its flight control system software is certainly the latest version of the upgrade.





Other highlights JF-17B and JL-9G comparison chart JF-17B further includes an integral side-opening canopy. JL-9 it more older segment canopy different, more similar to JL-10 monolithic cockpit cover, higher color values. JF-17B while also installed a new cabin environmental control system to meet the needs of two pilots, for installation of the front right side of the body one exhaust port. Further JF-17B before a new gear is mounted landing light, a small LED lights 16, having a luminance less power-hungry, good reliability advantages, it is learned that in the first application of LED landing lights on military aircraft made. Second, because JF-17B is triturated in JF-17 Block2 configuration basis, thereby retaining the flight refueling and a right inlet air refueling preceding night lamp. Further aft JF-17B further adds a multifunction display, the place of the HUD, the front compartment can simultaneously display HUD image.




FIG cockpit JF-17B, four configured as a multi-function display Aft is reported JF-17B retains a complete fire-control system comprises KLJ-7, including the fire control radar, JF-17 have the same single plane STV from the air combat capability and ground precision strike capability, and therefore have a higher cost of combat trainer. The two pilots in actual combat may be a division of labor, the front cabin of the pilots responsible for flight operations, while the rear cabin of the pilot in charge of arms control and locking emission. This is to reduce the burden on the pilot, the pilot can also enhance situation awareness, thereby increasing the JF-17B combat effectiveness and survivability. We believe that in the near future JF-17 fighter Xiaolong series there will be a substantial breakthrough in the international market, so that the Russian fighter Alexander outlet pressure!

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Can be a HMD for block 3

That is NOT going to be the HMD. There is no HMD available.

 

[messiach]

That is correct.

No. Thats likely Zn chromate plates for the pressure regulating values which prevent high altitude fuel boiling. Fuel cells are underneath the pressure regulating value and vaccuum relief value assembly.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

No. Thats likely Zn chromate plates for the pressure regulating values which prevent high altitude fuel boiling. Fuel cells are underneath the pressure regulating value and vaccuum relief value assembly.

What I said, has been confirmed by someone who actually build these machines.