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@Oscar @MastanKhan @Manticore
Yara yeh kia faqeer type ke color scheme charai hui hay koi pholon ke chadar chara jai ga :p seriously this paint job looks ugly don't know why they are eager to show it every where. We know its Pakistan made and foreigners don't care about the origins so why not put on some good looking official color scheme used in airforce.
 
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@Oscar @MastanKhan @Manticore
Yara yeh kia faqeer type ke color scheme charai hui hay koi pholon ke chadar chara jai ga :p seriously this paint job looks ugly don't know why they are eager to show it every where. We know its Pakistan made and foreigners don't care about the origins so why not put on some good looking official color scheme used in airforce.
why u r acting like GEO ???
 
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Just found :o: from 2013
India's Air Chief Marshall, claims JF-17 is a 2nd generation fighter


India's Chief of Air Staff, Arup Raha, suggests that the JF-17 is a 2nd generation fighter. Developed by Chinese and Pakistani aviation firms, the JF-17 is believed to be a 4th generation fighter comparable to the US F-16. Raha however has dismissed this claims, producing photographic evidence that the JF-17 has existed since 1971.
"We have photographic evidence that the JF-17 was used in the 1971 war where it was likely undergoing live tests
. Our fighters were unable to destroy the aircraft. Pakistan has kept the aircraft secret since then and only recently returned it to service"
Raha believes that the JF-17 was built not with Chinese assistance but with American help via Northrop.

"the JF-17 was derived from the American F-5. Pakistan has recently updated their aircraft to modern standards"

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http://www.eenadu.net/news/bnewsitem...=business&no=3

Brilliant USA and USSR working together to develop a fighter aircraft for Pakistan with copied technology from Extra Terrestrial (ET). The Brains of IAF are out of this Solar System, India should strongly protest with both USA and Russia by returning all the military and economic technology and finances ASAP.
 
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come on guys its a satire .... & photo is from 'milliry-photshops.blogspot.com'

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Shown above Jf-17 Thunder of PAF dressed up in PAF F-104 Starfighter bare metal finish from 65' era .
 
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why u r acting like GEO ???
:o: I am not acting like anyone just saying what I feel. This paint job is stupid considering they are putting this piece on display in international expo. It would make sense if they use it in local air shows at national events but not suitable for international level defense expos.
 
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@Oscar you are abs right sir
Testing of F-35 DSI on F-16
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Test result
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Why DSI is not installed as upgrade in current or future blocks (if any) of F-16s?

Just found :o: from 2013
India's Air Chief Marshall, claims JF-17 is a 2nd generation fighter


India's Chief of Air Staff, Arup Raha, suggests that the JF-17 is a 2nd generation fighter. Developed by Chinese and Pakistani aviation firms, the JF-17 is believed to be a 4th generation fighter comparable to the US F-16. Raha however has dismissed this claims, producing photographic evidence that the JF-17 has existed since 1971.
"We have photographic evidence that the JF-17 was used in the 1971 war where it was likely undergoing live tests
. Our fighters were unable to destroy the aircraft. Pakistan has kept the aircraft secret since then and only recently returned it to service"
Raha believes that the JF-17 was built not with Chinese assistance but with American help via Northrop.

"the JF-17 was derived from the American F-5. Pakistan has recently updated their aircraft to modern standards"

o0rosg.jpg

http://www.eenadu.net/news/bnewsitem...=business&no=3

This is screen print of your link:

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they have no plans to update the f16 further

They have if orders are there for it, but my question was why not offered as upgrade if its effective? what benifit it will add if it is added with LOAN nozzle and super cruise capable engine?
 
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They have if orders are there for it, but my question was why not offered as upgrade if its effective? what benifit it will add if it is added with LOAN nozzle and super cruise capable engine?
F-16 is used for lot of test studies so I don't think so if this test had any future for upgrades. For example Thrust Vectoring was tried on F-16 but it never made into jet. Similarly different wing designs were tried on F-16 for research purposes.
 
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Just found :o: from 2013
India's Air Chief Marshall, claims JF-17 is a 2nd generation fighter


India's Chief of Air Staff, Arup Raha, suggests that the JF-17 is a 2nd generation fighter. Developed by Chinese and Pakistani aviation firms, the JF-17 is believed to be a 4th generation fighter comparable to the US F-16. Raha however has dismissed this claims, producing photographic evidence that the JF-17 has existed since 1971.
"We have photographic evidence that the JF-17 was used in the 1971 war where it was likely undergoing live tests
. Our fighters were unable to destroy the aircraft. Pakistan has kept the aircraft secret since then and only recently returned it to service"
Raha believes that the JF-17 was built not with Chinese assistance but with American help via Northrop.

"the JF-17 was derived from the American F-5. Pakistan has recently updated their aircraft to modern standards"

o0rosg.jpg

http://www.eenadu.net/news/bnewsitem...=business&no=3
This photo was posted a few days ago and is JF 17 photoshopped into a star fighter.Sorry couldnt find the link.a total hoax.
 
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JF-17 Thunder Update – 2014
By Najam Khan | December 16, 2014 | JF-17 Thunder
JF-17 Thunder Update – 2014 - PAFwallpapers Blog

Inducted in the PAF as a medium-tech combat aircraft in 2010, the JF-17 Thunder’s production has been gathering pace ever since the launch of the Block-2 standard aircraft on 18th Dec 2013. Significant improvements have been incorporated in the ‘Block-II’ variant such as a more powerful radar (KLJ-7 V2), improved electronics package (EW pods and enhanced sensors), enhanced databus for launch of Precision-Guided-Munitions (PGM – also known as Laser-Guided-Bombs) and long range/stand-off weapons such as the Glide-guided-bomb (LS-6), strengthened wing roots to carry an additional load of up to 3000lbs and last but not the least, the only prominent external add-on; the air-to-air refueling probe (for increased range and loiter time for Combat Air Patrols).

In the recent edition of Zhuhai Air Show 2014, China, CATIC had displayed an array of new weaponry for the JF-17. As compared to the weapons package that was put on display in the previous edition, it seems clear that the PAF, which has invested a heavy capital and human resource over the last decade, wants to get ‘a lot more’ out of the Thunder Programme. The LS-6 Glide-guided-bomb, PL-5EII SRAAM, SD-10 BVRAAM, MAR-1 ARM and C-802 Anti-Ship missile, all have been tested and configured with the JF-17. Weapon testing of CM-400AKG; a 900kg Stand-Off-Missile (SOM) with an impressive range of 180 -250 km is already underway in China.




Weapons package of the JF-17 on display at Zhuhai Airshow 2014. Of prominence are C-802AK Anti-Ship missile (first picture – above ), GB-600 Stand-Off-Weapon (SOW) and C-102 Anti-Radiation Missile. CM-102 is a Anti-Radar Missile with range of 100km. It has high hit accuracy and a 80kg warhead. PAF has already inducted the Brazillian origin MAR-1 ARM for its JF-17 fleet.


Artistic impression of JF-17 Block-II with in-flight refueling probe. The aircraft is equipped with GBU-12 LGBs and WMD-7 Pod on centerline station with CCS marking.


Artistic impression of the JF-17 Block-II formation employing 500kg GB-6 SOW. GB-6 is a 500kg bomb guided with GPS/INS system. It can be used for large-scale ground targets such as vital enemy installations.

Extending the reach:

Among the only major external improvement in the Block-II standard JF-17 is the addition of an in-flight aerial refueling probe. Integration and testing work is underway at PAC (where the air-to-air refueling probe is being integrated on the starboard side of the fuselage just behind the canopy) with joint-collaboration from a South African company. This modification shall help the JF-17 extend its range and increase its on-station time by air-air-refueling with IL-78 tankers, already in service with PAF.

Two JF-17s are being used as test beds for in-flight-refueling probes. The flight trials with IL-78 tanker are scheduled in the first half of 2015.

More Thunder inductions:

Since its formal induction in the PAF in February 2010, JF-17 has been extensively used in air-defence and fighter-training roles. As the aircraft is maturing into a potent platform with no outside ‘political strings’ attached, the PAF is at a leisure to phase-out its aging fleet of Mirage and F-7 aircraft.

PAF shall receive the long-awaited third squadron of JF-17s end of December. This time the Thunder will join the elite faculty of Combat Commanders School (CCS) where it will replace the F-7 CCS squadron. Formerly known as the Fighter Leaders School (FLS) in the late-1950s, with the expansion and modernization of the PAF there was a need felt to have a specialized institution where experienced fighter pilots could be trained not only as instructors to supervise the training programme of fighter squadrons but also to provide combat leadership in the air. In 1976 FLS was renamed Combat Commanders School (CCS) with a mission to go beyond the stated aims and objectives at the time. Hence, the roadmap of providing fighter pilots with comprehensive courses in combat leadership and advanced fighter tactics got underway.

With two Thunder Squadron’s already operational (No.26 ‘Black Spiders’ and No.16 ‘Black Panthers’), having a CCS JF-17 Squadron as the third unit to equip the type makes sense and fits the bill for two reasons; Firstly, while the two operational squadrons can focus on ‘polishing’ their pilot skills in the air-to-air and air-to-ground arena, the advanced concepts and tactics which will be validated from the CCS’s Thunder Sqn can then be propagated professionally among the other Thunder Squadrons. Secondly, another major role of the CCS is of conducting weapons trials and surveys.

As the Chief of Air Staff ACM Tahir R Butt was quoted in Flight International (July 2014 issue – interviewed by a British military-aviation journalist Alan Warnes):

“I felt it was too much for a squadron to expect them to be operational, train pilots, visit air shows and do testing, so i split it.”
“These aircraft will bring us newer capabilities with different weapons,” Tahir says. Once the weapons testing parameters are achieved and become operationally ‘fit’ they will be incorporated into the PAF’s combat doctrine and thus help in ensuring the Thunder takes on the same role as that of the F-16, of becoming a true multi-role combat aircraft for the PAF.


CCS Mirage-III taking off from Mushaf AB for Exercise Saffron Bandit (2013). CCS Mirages and F-7s wear high-visibility markings and have a sword painted below the canopy.


CCS bids farewell to F-6 aircraft. F-7P with modern avionics and chaff/flares dispensers was inducted in the faculty in early 1993.


JF-17 Serial # 13-149 (the second last JF-17 built from first batch of 50 aircraft) departs Minhas Air Base for Functional Check Flight (FCF) in July 2013. The entire Block-1 production fleet of JF-17s will be upgraded in phases and brought on par with the Block-2 standard.


JF-17 leads a formation of Mirage-VEF, F-7PG, J-10 (PLAAF) and J-7E (PLAAF) aircraft in Exercise Shaheen-III at PAF Base Rafiqui, May 2014.




Pair of CCS F-7s prepare to taxi for Dissimilar Air Combat Training (DACT) with No.11 Sqn F-16s.
 
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