JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

[ACE OF THE AIR]

I didn't include rafale in my Indian side disappointments,
coz i ve ignored it until its signed and sealed.. can get dragged for couple of years , no one knows, better to forget it.

whatever i have felt were imminent things like LCA SP2, NP2 , LUH , IJT, BTA verdict etc..



don't you feel disappointed at all ?
i felt good coz, u havent widened the gap with us, but bad because missed the hot debates had it succeeded

You can ignore it for some time but when that becomes reality it hurts. Lets agree that LCA now has become more or less ineffective unless a completely new design is going to be produced as block 2.

In 2012 while visiting IDEAS did come across a few Nigerian Air Force personnel who were taking great interest in the JF-17 but they were looking towards the Block 2 which was at that time not disclosed to the public. Looking at todays JF-17 development things have really moved forward i.e almost all the weapons that are required in modern air combat have atleast been tested may be not fully integrated. The aircraft has been flown in a war even though not yet against any air force still it is combat proven.

The only disappointment is that it is still a single seater, Hence personally my inner self was indicating there may not be a contract till the twin seater prototype is shown to the public. In one of the threads regarding JF17 read that PAF did not consider a twin seater version because the Pilots were more relying on simulators and F16's. May be this was due to the fact PAF pilots thought that JF-17 would be flown by the most senior pilots who have already have flown the F-16's before.

If we look at the present situation regarding the Mirage III/V's the news that no export orders have been placed could be a blessing in disguise. This might make PAF realise to expedite the JF 17 twin seater version so that the training can become a lot easier (may be PAF might consider equating JF-17 and F-16 and pilots can be trained pellaral.)

 

[MastanKhan]

Yaar after seeing to many delegations with JFT I seriously become angry with the chutiaapa our planners has done and that is NO DUAL SEAT NEEDED. You know what I think if these delegates would have a live ride in this machine they may have created a better understanding with it and may got impressed if it is seriously a good value for money as far as our knowledge.
@Oscar @MastanKhan @Imran Khan

Hi,

It has taken a long time for paf to learn that---people buy what they want and not what paf sells---people want options and they want a test drive---how can you give someone a test drive in a single seater!!!!!!!

Only a single seater---it was a terrible decision by paf---amongst many---. It was basically an incomplete package right from day one---if they had offered a twin seater right from the gitgo---they could have been sitting on an order package of 250 + planes by now---.

Remember---it is not about the STEAK---it is about the SIZZLE----when the meat is cooking on the fire and you see it sizzle and those aromatic smells spreading everywhere---that creates the excitement----.

 

[My-Analogous]

What s the joke

please check water engineer guy for that

What s the joke

please check water engineer guy for that

 

[Tempest II]

There is an article on Fc-1 DSI development, we CFD images for different DSI sizes and profiles and there behaviour at various speeds. Will look for it later and post extracts.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Only a single seater---it was a terrible decision by paf

The general mind set is that this is a trainer only but now after procuring F26blk52 D's the realisation that it has a spine might bring some afterthoughts about having a Duel seater JF17.

 

[Tempest II]

Some CFD on the JFT DSI.https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...5YVmQZRmMjBKaqGvw&sig2=JzouVf-L69W9B7pnOYyl6Q

Still not the article I was talking about.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Some CFD on the JFT DSI.https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...5YVmQZRmMjBKaqGvw&sig2=JzouVf-L69W9B7pnOYyl6Q

Still not the article I was talking about.

That's the one I was looking for, for the past few days! Cheers.

 

[Manticore]

That's the one I was looking for, for the past few days! Cheers.

its in the info pool -- imgur snaps

 

[fatman17]

JFT-PT-02 static load test.

 

[Sine Nomine]

@Oscar you are abs right sir
Testing of F-35 DSI on F-16

Test result

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Test result
View attachment 175191

Can you enlarge this picture?

 

[khanasifm]

IS this someone imagination or reality for next Blk? 11 stations for pods , weapons etc. luv to see under intake like F16s

50s plane with multiple ejector pylons , can be done bit $$$ and perhaps some performance hit

 

[farhan_9909]

IS this someone imagination or reality for next Blk? 11 stations for pods , weapons etc. luv to see under intake like F16s

View attachment 175785

View attachment 175784

View attachment 175788 50s plane with multiple ejector pylons , can be done bit $$$ and perhaps some performance hit

yes,they were made by chinese member tomcat21

 

[khanasifm]

FTc-2000 has been modified

Can someone translate pl,ease

twin EJECTORS rCKS ON jf

 

[SQ8]

IS this someone imagination or reality for next Blk? 11 stations for pods , weapons etc. luv to see under intake like F16s

Imagination. Strong imagination.