Brothers first of all I want to clarify it clearly, bold and loud that there is no intention of mine to troll or to make fun on anybody or anything what so ever.
@Oscar
@Oscar Got your point/rule Sir pls pardon my ignorance does the rule is also valid for the whole article/blog published copy/paste without indicating any source of author/publication because I have seen many of that too ?? Regards
If you think that copy/pasting someone content from some other source is a crime than I regret it but every one of us gets idea from some where and my action indicates my lazyness to type the whole content myself but what I feel is correct in this particular context.
I believe PAF follows the NATO standards and you seems to have a some knowledge of a fighter aircraft so no need to explain and go into the details of the Lugs, Pylon, sway braces, CAD, Racks, Jettison, electro imulse catridges, Ejectors, Rail ejection launcher, Guided Missile Launcher. Stores, S&A, TDD etc and understand all these terms and without any example of Maritime Jaguar or MKI of IAF lets straight away to the main point.
1. Do you want me to believe that all PAF squardon commander of JF-17 fleets is/will be maintaining AAE Inventory Reports and AAE assets matrix which represent inventory status projected for 10 years into the future, and to determine the readiness posture and identify shortfalls in sufficient lead time to allow the procurement process to take place) for the naval strike capabilities of all the bases?
2. Do you want me to believe that all PAF Squardons & bases are/will be equipped, trained, and proficient in storing, maintance, installation, arming, fuse handling etc, of all Mission AAE (items of AAE that are installed on JF-17 for antiship mission with CMxxx) other than the inventory AAE for all the operational fighter planes of all ROLE i.e Tactical, Trainer, Patrol, Recce and don't care for the cost escalation?
3. Do you want me to believe the all PAF pilot of JF-17 fleets are proficient, trained, and have practiced for the antiship strike role other than ground attack, CAP, SEAD, DEAD, Air supremacy, Interceptor, dogfighter; which includes knowledge of handling and usage the JF-17 airborne radar to detect and identify the enemy ship (probably IN) over the horizon against the sea clutter, targeting and programming the AsHM embebded in its memory the coordinates and radar/thermal characteristics of the target prior to attack the target, releasing the weapon and updating and guiding till the weapon goes active, via airborne advance tactical datalink pod (not datalink 16) and have practiced which I believe 7-8 times(I am not in PAF) to be certified for the mission. They are also trained and have knowledge of the shipbased radars their identification, capabilities, weakness and exploiting the weakness with deception and decoys, Radar avoidance, ESW warfare, ASR equipment's, etc.?
4. Do you want me to believe that all PAF technicians are trained and certified to handled the CM400 AKG antiship missile, installation of fins and wings, its manual adjustment, fuses and its associated AAE, and its accessories and the installation of associated pylon, catridge activated ejectors and airborne stores, suspending lugs, sway braces, mechanical and electrical connections, S&A (safety and arming)device and TDD (target-detecting device) maintenance, cranes, trollies and hoists and all JF-17 is equipped with the data link pod for CM400 updates and uploading/upgradation of software/database mission computers with the database of the enemy warships/boats/carriers signature, ship/coastal radars etc.?
5. Do you want me to believe that each and every JF-17 is certified with the flight load factor in specified altitute and flight envelope which in this case with 2 CM400 AKG under wings, tested with the weapon load, certified and maintained for the sea/alkaline conditions( the salts present in the air causes corosions and needs some care for the fighter planes and the weapons ) and no special electrical wiring, umbilical cable and connection power supply is not required, no change in navigational equipment, no special ejector mechanism (certainly for foldable wings of CMxxx), Pylon to be installed prior to the mission, no installation of the Advance Tactical Data Link Pod in case of single aircraft mission and in case of multiple aircraft mission in 1 or more?
I can point some more points but my point is fighter planes do required certain modification for the maritime strike and antiship missions. Infact any fighter aircraft can be used for maritime attack mission but have to with some preparation and pilots to be trained for the mission. To be noted that according to wikepedia the Chinese claims to have developed the missile ejector which can serve for common ejection system for multiple weapon system and can help in converting any Chinese planes to carry CM400 AKG which is great but that does not means that it can serve for each and every weapon store and it does not means that you installed the pylon, attached the Ejectors and mounted any weapon; certain mechanical, electrical connections are to be made.
If you can answer my question above I would be very happy because this could be my last post because my post are bieng taken as troll and most important I don't like the informative thread like this to be filled with useless and wasted with allegation,fun making comments which makes the thread unnessecory very long and becomes impossible for the new members (yes which I myself experienced/feels) to browse all the pages for getting the important updates/information.
I joined PDF to post some of my thoughts and ask certain questions from some of the knowledgeable members to gain some knowledge and get some certain information which comes to my mind and I am very much interested in JF-17 and little bit surprised for not getting enough sales order.!!!!
One more thing that came to my mind while typing this post is I remember in the past LTTE's airwing aka Air Tiger converted 2-3 small civilian propeller planes for doping bombs over Srilankan airbase from the stuffs from calcutta scrap market. They uses JUGGAD for the release mechanism and Drums filled with explosive (amonium nitroxide) and juggadu timing and firing/fuzing mechanism.
For continuous 2 days I am being attacked from the series of elegations from our Pakistani members first for doubting Burraq as CH-3 and now in this thread. I tried to answer most of the quotes every time except senseless quotes but I am getting over wirmed which is consuming lot of my time which I have very less to spare. So I would like to request to our @MOD @Oscar to end my membership if they are finding my posts irrelevant and rubbish.
Have Fun Guys !!!
Sir the first picture is of chinese FC-1 probably SP series with the practice/training CMxxx note the blue color indication. Second picture yes JF-17 can't say may during some display, third picture I have seen so many time but with the logo between I can say is from promotional pic or a wallpaper pic may be photoshoped, fourth pic is from some video, can't say much. Yes you can post as many pic as you want and I will count but I don't think you can, actually its special weapon and not a general purpose ordanance and getting pic with the service weapon would be difficult one. And counting on the picture is not a good idea because lot of time dummy weapon is attached for the promotion/displays/events. You will get the answer from the number of CMxxx imported by PAF from china, so chill, no hard feeling and don't consider my post as an attempt to Troll.
, I am just a Mechanic, and nice to meet you. See you more in future and why you think I am unbiased.
