JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 6]

[VelocuR]

Rumors can be reality who know the Chinese guy posted about S-20 deal about to be signed and Pakistan will get J-10 with Russian Engines by source Watch China Times well we are getting 8 S-20 subs who knows J-10 news also turned out to be true....

Watch China Times is not from China, it is anti-Chinese propaganda from Taiwan. Don't trust that source. Our many Chinese members has said this numerous times here to educate us.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Rumors can be reality who know the Chinese guy posted about S-20 deal about to be signed and Pakistan will get J-10 with Russian Engines by source Watch China Times well we are getting 8 S-20 subs who knows J-10 news also turned out to be true....

You believe watch China times, that the crapiest source I ever see

 

[fatman17]

we are replacing 343 Jets (F-7 Mirage III and Mirage 5) with 150-200 JF-17 ?

150-200 JF-17
76 F-16
18 Block 52 F-16 pending from USA (not Confirmed)

what about rest?? 2nd hand jets? 100's of 5th Generation aircraft??



agree

Replacement of 343 aircraft by JFT one to one is not on the cards bcuz one JFT = to 2 or 3 retiring aircraft in capability.
Until 2008 the goal was to have 3 types of aircraft in the inventory
F16s
JFT
FC 20
But things may change as J31 may replace the FC20

 

[Quwa]

Notwithstanding 5th generation aircraft, the PAF fleet is shaping up to be along the lines of around 200 JF-17 and a little over 100 F-16s. So yes, a smaller fighter fleet, but exponentially more potent than the legacy fleet (F-7/Mirage).

I think we'll see more would've-been fighter pilots train on transport and special mission aircraft, which I feel will become much more prominent in the PAF in the coming years.

That said, a "stretch goal" (if funds were available) for fighters would be to bump the JF-17 and F-16 fleets to 250 and 150, respectively. Within the F-16 fleet, I think the ideal would be to have a total of 55 new-build Falcons.

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Yes Yes off course that is not a dream but a reality

PAF leadership clearly indicated its intention to go for J-31. JF-17 program with its future blocks will bridge the gap in the meantime. add that the F-16 MLU and block 52 we wont be needing J-10s unless J-31 is cancelled

 

[Zarvan]

PAF leadership clearly indicated its intention to go for J-31. JF-17 program with its future blocks will bridge the gap in the meantime. add that the F-16 MLU and block 52 we wont be needing J-10s unless J-31 is cancelled

Sir I have PAF officials in my family I know about their statements. I know one thing Pakistan is looking to have a third 4.5 Generation platform either it would be J-10 or can be SU-35 but that I am sure that there will be first at least three 4.5 Generation platforms in PAF than only than we would work towards getting J-31

 

[syedali73]

Sir I have PAF officials in my family I know about their statements. I know one thing Pakistan is looking to have a third 4.5 Generation platform either it would be J-10 or can be SU-35 but that I am sure that there will be first at least three 4.5 Generation platforms in PAF than only than we would work towards getting J-31

J-10... I seriously doubt but I wont be surprised if PAF is eyeing on acquiring some long range fighter bomber such as Su-27 and/or its variants.

 

[Zarvan]

J-10... I seriously doubt but I wont be surprised if PAF is eyeing on acquiring some long range fighter bomber such as Su-27 and/or its variants.

J-11 D or J-16 can be the option if not SU-35 but I was and even now pretty sure that PAF will first get three 4.5th Generation platforms only than they would focus on 5th Generation

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir I have PAF officials in my family I know about their statements. I know one thing Pakistan is looking to have a third 4.5 Generation platform either it would be J-10 or can be SU-35 but that I am sure that there will be first at least three 4.5 Generation platforms in PAF than only than we would work towards getting J-31

first thing is that your family members with such important positions shouldn't make statements which can be used against us. secondly if they do make a hint then keep such information to yourself.

speculation is fine but never insist or be played into providing some proof. people sometimes bait you into telling more than what is needed to be a public knowledge.

NOW

re another 4.5 generation aircraft. lets rule out SU-35 completely and utterly and absolutely.

it is against PAF doctrine, it is a twin engine heavy fighter. its top of the line Russian aircraft and Russia wont even sell SU-30 let alone any later derivatives of this plane. if the inevitable does happen then we will get its Chinese rip off J-11 or whatever nothing more.

now ask yourself why would PAF want another modern jet when it already has F-16 block 52 and its advertising JF-17 as good or better than F-16? both aircraft's are multi-role so what will this J10 be? yet another multi-role? again note that PAF is not interested in dedicated superiority fighters.

on one hand we got PAF and web enthusiasts touting a stealth version of JF-17 with AESA then pray tell where does J-10 fit in this? whatever number of J-10s are planned to be procured it would mean relocation of funding from our JF-17 program.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

first thing is that your family members with such important positions shouldn't make statements which can be used against us. secondly if they do make a hint then keep such information to yourself.

speculation is fine but never insist or be played into providing some proof. people sometimes bait you into telling more than what is needed to be a public knowledge.

NOW

re another 4.5 generation aircraft. lets rule out SU-35 completely and utterly and absolutely.

it is against PAF doctrine, it is a twin engine heavy fighter. its top of the line Russian aircraft and Russia wont even sell SU-30 let alone any later derivatives of this plane. if the inevitable does happen then we will get its Chinese rip off J-11 or whatever nothing more.

now ask yourself why would PAF want another modern jet when it already has F-16 block 52 and its advertising JF-17 as good or better than F-16? both aircraft's are multi-role so what will this J10 be? yet another multi-role? again note that PAF is not interested in dedicated superiority fighters.

on one hand we got PAF and web enthusiasts touting a stealth version of JF-17 with AESA then pray tell where does J-10 fit in this? whatever number of J-10s are planned to be procured it would mean relocation of funding from our JF-17 program.

Please do not "rain on the parade" with logic. You are simply likely to dampen some effervescent enthusiasm; @Irfan Baloch .

 

[Zarvan]

first thing is that your family members with such important positions shouldn't make statements which can be used against us. secondly if they do make a hint then keep such information to yourself.

speculation is fine but never insist or be played into providing some proof. people sometimes bait you into telling more than what is needed to be a public knowledge.

NOW

re another 4.5 generation aircraft. lets rule out SU-35 completely and utterly and absolutely.

it is against PAF doctrine, it is a twin engine heavy fighter. its top of the line Russian aircraft and Russia wont even sell SU-30 let alone any later derivatives of this plane. if the inevitable does happen then we will get its Chinese rip off J-11 or whatever nothing more.

now ask yourself why would PAF want another modern jet when it already has F-16 block 52 and its advertising JF-17 as good or better than F-16? both aircraft's are multi-role so what will this J10 be? yet another multi-role? again note that PAF is not interested in dedicated superiority fighters.

on one hand we got PAF and web enthusiasts touting a stealth version of JF-17 with AESA then pray tell where does J-10 fit in this? whatever number of J-10s are planned to be procured it would mean relocation of funding from our JF-17 program.

Sir yes I know but PAF is looking to get 5th Generation in future than they have to change policy. News is getting more stronger about SU-35. As for SU-35 or it would be J-11 D. But I am pretty sure at least third 4.5th Generation would come for sure

 

[Blue Marlin]

first thing is that your family members with such important positions shouldn't make statements which can be used against us. secondly if they do make a hint then keep such information to yourself.

speculation is fine but never insist or be played into providing some proof. people sometimes bait you into telling more than what is needed to be a public knowledge.

NOW

re another 4.5 generation aircraft. lets rule out SU-35 completely and utterly and absolutely.

it is against PAF doctrine, it is a twin engine heavy fighter. its top of the line Russian aircraft and Russia wont even sell SU-30 let alone any later derivatives of this plane. if the inevitable does happen then we will get its Chinese rip off J-11 or whatever nothing more.

now ask yourself why would PAF want another modern jet when it already has F-16 block 52 and its advertising JF-17 as good or better than F-16? both aircraft's are multi-role so what will this J10 be? yet another multi-role? again note that PAF is not interested in dedicated superiority fighters.

on one hand we got PAF and web enthusiasts touting a stealth version of JF-17 with AESA then pray tell where does J-10 fit in this? whatever number of J-10s are planned to be procured it would mean relocation of funding from our JF-17 program.

your right such officials will not just say what the air force is procuring. i feel the j10b may be introduced in small numbers as the jf17 is being upgraded to incorporate tech the same as the j10b. the j11 is not even a possibility.
most of PAF's efforts will be in the jf17 to bring it as close to a 4++gen fighter

Sir yes I know but PAF is looking to get 5th Generation in future than they have to change policy. News is getting more stronger about SU-35. As for SU-35 or it would be J-11 D. But I am pretty sure at least third 4.5th Generation would come for sure

as you say it's just news. news thats pushing india to buy the plane not Pakistan. the su35 is more advanced than the mki and if Pakistan had it india will be having many sleepless nights. it a Russian technique to produce false news to to push countries.

 

[Thorough Pro]

If you have family members in PAF who conveniently disclose to you PAF's future plans then why do you keep asking about the J10 acquisition on almost daily basis on this forum? You seem to know more than the average Joe, you should be the one breaking news rather than asking questions?

Sir I have PAF officials in my family I know about their statements. I know one thing Pakistan is looking to have a third 4.5 Generation platform either it would be J-10 or can be SU-35 but that I am sure that there will be first at least three 4.5 Generation platforms in PAF than only than we would work towards getting J-31

 

[MastanKhan]

on one hand we got PAF and web enthusiasts touting a stealth version of JF-17 with AESA then pray tell where does J-10 fit in this? whatever number of J-10s are planned to be procured it would mean relocation of funding from our JF-17 program.

Hi,

The J 10 B is basically the same thing as an F 16. Having J 10 B's is like securing your position----like covering your flank in case some issues pop up with the F 16's---it is like an INSURANCE policy to cover your assets in times of duress.