JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 5]

[Nishan_101]

Is there any possibility that PAC-CAC will allow the Jordan Aerospace Industries to manufacture about 70 JF-17 Block-IIs and also 70 JF-17 Block-IIIs locally. More over, PAF can buy the remaining 3 F-16A/B and also 46 F-16AM (C) and 16 BM (D) along with 25 Cobra for PAA.

Jordan can locally assemble 30+ ATAK or Z-10s.

Royal Jordanian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Luftwaffe]

Is there any possibility that PAC-CAC will allow the Jordan Aerospace Industries to manufacture about 70 JF-17 Block-IIs and also 70 JF-17 Block-IIIs locally. More over, PAF can buy the remaining 3 F-16A/B and also 46 F-16AM (C) and 16 BM (D) along with 25 Cobra for PAA.

Jordan can locally assemble 30+ ATAK or Z-10s.

Royal Jordanian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No...for JF-17 they'll have to purchase land, establish another aircraft manufacturing factory that's alot of money which they don't have and also the report that saudis might fund for them to buy Typhoons and or bock 50+ f-16s... Second Jordan has no money whatever they purchase saudi support them and US gives them discount as an ally. You are talking $2.5b worth of costs associated minus Block III production. I highly doubt Block III would be put for sales anytime soon even after it production starts in Pakistan from the perspective of National Interest, operating an advance product first before you hand it over to a potential ally.

Jordan can get advance Cobras from US and might order the advanced super cobras instead of turkish or chinese product.

 

[Nishan_101]

No...for JF-17 they'll have to purchase land, establish another aircraft manufacturing factory that's alot of money which they don't have and also the report that saudis might fund for them to buy Typhoons and or bock 50+ f-16s... Second Jordan has no money whatever they purchase saudi support them and US gives them discount as an ally. You are talking $2.5b worth of costs associated minus Block III production. I highly doubt Block III would be put for sales anytime soon even after it production starts in Pakistan from the perspective of National Interest, operating an advance product first before you hand it over to a potential ally.

Jordan can get advance Cobras from US and might order the advanced super cobras instead of turkish or chinese product.

Wait and see. If they want they will have it.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Wait and see. If they want they will have it.

You can wait and we all can see either advance Falcons or Typhoons would land there...yaar again you keep forgetting Chinese Engine is not ready and russians would never agree to RD-93 to Jordan the region is volatile and against russia. But your idea is not bad PAF should have offered it regardless of sales/deal going through or not...without trying you can't achieve, crux marketing team is non existent with PAC/PAF.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Is there any possibility that PAC-CAC will allow the Jordan Aerospace Industries to manufacture about 70 JF-17 Block-IIs and also 70 JF-17 Block-IIIs locally. More over, PAF can buy the remaining 3 F-16A/B and also 46 F-16AM (C) and 16 BM (D) along with 25 Cobra for PAA.

Jordan can locally assemble 30+ ATAK or Z-10s.

Royal Jordanian Air Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jeez ... Nishan (-13) points and still you are not letting your rants go.

 

[fatman17]

Two to Tango? Argentine looking for new warplanes.

.....Chinese F-8s “Finback-Bs” would be a very cheap used option, presenting no serious threat, but good for harassment patrols and shows of force at range. The question is whether they could be kept in the air. The JF-17 Thunder from China and Pakistan would be a more advanced option and a definite threat, thanks to its ability to carry C802 subsonic and CM-400AKG supersonic anti-ship missiles. Argentina has expressed interest in the JF-17, and has held discussions directly with China......

DiD

 

[Luftwaffe]

Two to Tango? Argentine looking for new warplanes.

.....Chinese F-8s “Finback-Bs” would be a very cheap used option, presenting no serious threat, but good for harassment patrols and shows of force at range. The question is whether they could be kept in the air. The JF-17 Thunder from China and Pakistan would be a more advanced option and a definite threat, thanks to its ability to carry C802 subsonic and CM-400AKG supersonic anti-ship missiles. Argentina has expressed interest in the JF-17, and has held discussions directly with China......

DiD

J/F-8T is considerable upgrade but the problem is it is not so much manoeuvrable. Argentina perhaps would be the second country after Pakistan that russians would have no problem allowing RD-93 but the government is short on funds and budgetary problems.

 

[Munir]

Two to Tango? Argentine looking for new warplanes.

.....Chinese F-8s “Finback-Bs” would be a very cheap used option, presenting no serious threat, but good for harassment patrols and shows of force at range. The question is whether they could be kept in the air. The JF-17 Thunder from China and Pakistan would be a more advanced option and a definite threat, thanks to its ability to carry C802 subsonic and CM-400AKG supersonic anti-ship missiles. Argentina has expressed interest in the JF-17, and has held discussions directly with China......

DiD

They opted for Kfir block 60. something like 25 mil a second hand plane...

 

[Indus Falcon]

Interesting note in Defence Industry Daily's analysis on Argentinian Air Force modernisation.

Could someone please elaborate on this?

"The JF-17 Thunder from China and Pakistan would be a more advanced option and a definite threat, thanks to its ability to carry C802 subsonic and CM-400AKG supersonic anti-ship missiles. Argentina has expressed interest in the JF-17, and has held discussions directly with China."

Two to Tango? Argentina Looking for New Warplanes

 

[Bratva]

Interesting note in Defence Industry Daily's analysis on Argentinian Air Force modernisation.

Could someone please elaborate on this?

"The JF-17 Thunder from China and Pakistan would be a more advanced option and a definite threat, thanks to its ability to carry C802 subsonic and CM-400AKG supersonic anti-ship missiles. Argentina has expressed interest in the JF-17, and has held discussions directly with China."

Two to Tango? Argentina Looking for New Warplanes

During Falkland war, Only thing that dented England was the exocet missiles fired by Argentinian Mirages on to royal navy ships.

 

[SQ8]

They opted for Kfir block 60. something like 25 mil a second hand plane...

Offers commonality with the existing Finger in terms of handling, VERY impressive avionics kit that does surpass the JF-17 in many places..
Greater Payload(2.5 tons more) , Advanced weapons.. networking.. etc

 

[Indus Falcon]

During Falkland war, Only thing that dented England was the exocet missiles fired by Argentinian Mirages on to royal navy ships.

Ah yes I remember that! Wasn't that same ship sold by the RN to PN?

 

[HRK]

Offers commonality with the existing Finger in terms of handling, VERY impressive avionics kit that does surpass the JF-17 in many places..
Greater Payload(2.5 tons more) , Advanced weapons.. networking.. etc

so in other terms Kfir blk60 is more advance then JF-17 existing block ..... what about JF-17 blk2 where does it stand in comparison of Kfir blk60 ....

 

[ziaulislam]

what about life on these kafir. i dont think they can last more than a decade

 

[Luftwaffe]

Good deal if goes through AESA radar some modern technologies incorporated into Kfir block 60...a zero hour engine, but I think the deal would partially be funded by israels and be paid back on a long term basis. I posted it a few months ago the price is 20m. @HKR Kfir block 60 is +/- advance than JF-17 the trouble for Argentinian Air Force in any War israelis would discontinue support, congratulation PAC/PAC lost another deal in south america. We know isreali electronic are much better than the Chinese ones thus under the hood Kfir has some very stable modern systems for its generation.

what about life on these kafir. i dont think they can last more than a decade

Approx 15 years until their economy recovers only 18 could be ordered for the total of some $500m. Israel is giving full support for the aircraft.