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JF-17 an international success.


China’s flagship international fighter program is the JF-17 Thunder, developed and produced by the Chengdu works of AVIC’s combat aircraft subsidiary in cooperation with Pakistan, which has used it as a vehicle to create and grow its government operated industry.

The JF-17 evolved from a series of Chinese studies of radically modified MiG-21’s but was an entirely new aircraft by the time the design was unveiled at the Paris air show in 1999. In the same year, Pakistan signed the initial co-development agreement with China National Aero-Technology Export & Import Corp (CATIC).

“At the start of the project, Pakistan had no industrial or technological base “, Pakistan Air Force then Chief of Staff, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said at a conference last year. However he noted that Pakistan has participated in all stages of the design and helped develop the requirements for the fighter.

The design was defined in 2001 and first flight took place in 2003, six prototypes were followed by a batch of eight Chinese built aircraft for evaluation. Production in Pakistan started in 2005 and the first locally built aircraft rolled out in November 2009. According to Suleman, the type’s performance ‘exceeded expectations’ leading to a decision to perform tests and introduce it into service in parallel.

Pakistan’s goal is to replace its ‘vintage fleet’, comprising more than 250 Mirages and older Chinese F-7’and A-5III fighters, with JF-17s. The first batch of 42 aircraft, the last of them delivered earlier this year, replaced the A-5IIIs (a 1970’s era Chinese development of the MiG-19), equipping three squadrons.

Overall Suleman says, should allow the air force to replace its older fleet (not necessarily one-for-one, given the much greater capability of the aircraft) at ‘one third’ to ‘one fourth’ the acquisition cost of any other modern fighter, with a similar savings in operating cost.

The JF-17 has been displayed at the Dubai and Farnborough air shows, and Pakistan’s industry has talked to avionics suppliers worldwide about providing systems for the aircraft. According to the Russian media , the original contract for the fighters RD-93 engine covered 100 power plants with an option for 500 more, an uprated 20,500Ib.-thrust version , the RD-93MA is under development. Meanwhile one JF-17 is reported to be flying with the Guizhou WS-13 engine. – Aviation Week.
 
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stop fighting over the rumors....:D

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The JF-17 has been displayed at the Dubai and Farnborough air shows, and Pakistan’s industry has talked to avionics suppliers worldwide about providing systems for the aircraft. According to the Russian media , the original contract for the fighters RD-93 engine covered 100 power plants with an option for 500 more, an uprated 20,500Ib.-thrust version , the RD-93MA is under development. Meanwhile one JF-17 is reported to be flying with the Guizhou WS-13 engine. – Aviation Week.
 
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stop fighting over the rumors....:D

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The JF-17 has been displayed at the Dubai and Farnborough air shows, and Pakistan’s industry has talked to avionics suppliers worldwide about providing systems for the aircraft. According to the Russian media , the original contract for the fighters RD-93 engine covered 100 power plants with an option for 500 more, an uprated 20,500Ib.-thrust version , the RD-93MA is under development. Meanwhile one JF-17 is reported to be flying with the Guizhou WS-13 engine. – Aviation Week.

Well we never know what is happening.the above news you posted is nothing but again a replica of the first news about RD-93ma from force magazine..

It is confirmed that RD-93ma is for JFT..
also note that one of the batch is for the J31 as well..

Same 4 month old report by the above source.nothing new.


At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.


http://en.take-off.ru/news/107-june2012/729-rd33outputontherise
 
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You know, when truth comes out against our expectations, it hurts a lot.
We expect too much from ourselves without even realising and knowing our capabilities.

Just wait for Block-2 unveiling, people will be beating eachother here. :lol:
Truth hurts when you have over expectation... i mean their were members in this forums who were saying that Blk2 will have more composites,100 Kn engine,Aesa Radar,IRST,retractable fuel probe and god know what not......
 
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A big nice pic of JFT PT-4 external modifications can be seen in yellow paint.
1-Data link antenna is yellow. (A new Datalink?)
2-Landing gear-box is yellow.
3-There are also couple of yellow spots on the tail.

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I guess you are talking about RD-93MA not MK which has not entered into production yet and as per lates news it is still under testing phase. Then how come it tested on PT-04 and not on PT-06.
With due respect sir, last time time you posted a Google-Earth photo of PT-06 at chinese airbase stating that "JFT with WS-13 on board", where the bird was hardly visible. I don't know about other guys here, but since the J-10 rumor bubble has burst, I am hardly believing in any of TT or NET based rumors. "Seeing in Beliving" from now on.
And the reality about the engine is, neither RD-93MA is ready nor WS-13, this is RD-93.

What happened to J10?
 
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stop fighting over the rumors....:D


The JF-17 has been displayed at the Dubai and Farnborough air shows, and Pakistan’s industry has talked to avionics suppliers worldwide about providing systems for the aircraft. According to the Russian media , the original contract for the fighters RD-93 engine covered 100 power plants with an option for 500 more, an uprated 20,500Ib.-thrust version , the RD-93MA is under development. Meanwhile one JF-17 is reported to be flying with the Guizhou WS-13 engine. – Aviation Week.

Well.......... The one with Guizhou WS-13 Engine is the "PT-06".
There is no question about that bcoz it's Engine's nozzle is totally different in looks against the RD-93.
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Truth hurts when you have over expectation... i mean their were members in this forums who were saying that Blk2 will have more composites,100 Kn engine,Aesa Radar,IRST,retractable fuel probe and god know what not......

AESA radar..:o maybe not in block 2....maybe in block 3...
well am also concerned ocer 100 Kn engine...
IRST is ok and all other upgrades mentioned are also due...
well it is also chance that PAF purchase AESA radars their selves bt i dont think it will be attached by default in block 2...
 
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Shkriyaa adaa karo "Dictator Musharraf" kaa ... woh naa hotaa tou aaj JF-17 bhee nahi hota..
Aglee dafaa kisii insaan kay bachay ko vote deinaa...
Budget Khanay walay Dinosaur ko vote nahii deynaa...

And all rumors will materialize...

well dictator musharraf ki waga say JF 17??:o
i didnot get that...
PAF decided to participate in project theirselve and they didnot got any bonus....
soo whats the role of musharraf...
well sab aosa kartay hain jo army karray ya nation karray uska kudh credit leegattay hain...eg musharraf na al.khalid ka bi credit lee lia tha....
or zardari na terrorism katham karnay ka..
qarbinian hamari or credit aik sign karnay or permission deenay pe zardari na ley lia..
 
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Shkriyaa adaa karo "Dictator Musharraf" kaa ... woh naa hotaa tou aaj JF-17 bhee nahi hota..
Aglee dafaa kisii insaan kay bachay ko vote deinaa...
Budget Khanay walay Dinosaur ko vote nahii deynaa...

And all rumors will materialize...

@Safriz.... Vote Insaan Ke Bache Ko hi Diya Jata Hai Vo Baat Alag Hai Ki Vote Milne Ke Baad Insaan Ka Bacha Budget Khane wala Dinosour Ban Jata Hai....

Shkriyaa adaa karo "Dictator Musharraf" kaa ... woh naa hotaa tou aaj JF-17 bhee nahi hota..
Aglee dafaa kisii insaan kay bachay ko vote deinaa...
Budget Khanay walay Dinosaur ko vote nahii deynaa...

And all rumors will materialize...

@Safriz.... Vote Insaan Ke Bache Ko hi Diya Jata Hai Vo Baat Alag Hai Ki Vote Milne Ke Baad Insaan Ka Bacha Budget Khane wala Dinosour Ban Jata Hai....
 
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Truth hurts when you have over expectation... i mean their were members in this forums who were saying that Blk2 will have more composites,100 Kn engine,Aesa Radar,IRST, retractable fuel probe and god know what not......

None of the members who knew anything or were aged above 30 had those dellusions.

If you want to make fanboy dreams the basis of your argument, than you are no different.
 
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Truth hurts when you have over expectation... i mean their were members in this forums who were saying that Blk2 will have more composites,100 Kn engine,Aesa Radar,IRST,retractable fuel probe and god know what not......

To be fair, these were just kids who are just too used to ingame upgrades of their cars and planes between levels and not real life upgrades :D
 
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