JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[Manticore]

 

[Umair Nawaz]

even it extend to 4000 kg then also Chinese specifications are wrong....their are three sets of specifications "on is Chinese" and "one is Pak " and one is with if n ***** ....This happen first time same plane clamming to be different specifications....

the only reliable source from pak on specs r the PAC's website n jft's official website. The PAC website has not been updated since 2007 and in jft's website its same PAC's specs just copied n pasted.

If u see the Izmir Airshow Chart 2011 about jft specs then u will know what r the latest specs.

Chinese in this context and keeping the view above r more credible and updated.

 

[Dazzler]

the only reliable source from pak on specs r the PAC's website n jft's official website. The PAC website has not been updated since 2007 and in jft's website its same PAC's specs just copied n pasted.

If u see the Izmir Airshow Chart 2011 about jft specs then u will know what r the latest specs.

Chinese in this context and keeping the view above r more credible and updated.

Yang Wei presentation @ Dubai Airshow 2012 should be the standard reference point as far as JFT specifications are concerned.

tit bit.......

The vertical tail housing contains the same onboard radar jammer as in J-10A, can be further supplemented by KG or ALQ series for different missions.

 

[Safriz]

PAC hiring for JF-17 something must be cooking?

 

[Dazzler]

more cakes (jf-17) are being cooked at the oven (Thunder city)..

They are speeding things up for sure, i heard they are increasing assembly line @ Kamra and also hiring for Nawabshah manufacturing plant.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

the Pakistani specs are very old and not updated from the past atleast 4-5 years

Chinese specs are credible and updated as well

Buddy ,Plane uses same engine n frame, nothing change in JF-17 since beginning....you are saying PAF guys dumb?

 

[Gentelman]

Buddy ,Plane uses same engine n frame, nothing change in JF-17 since beginning....you are saying PAF guys dumb?

engine being considered to be change.....
well i suppose targeeting pods effect a lot and new weaponry is also induced.....
he is just saying PAC and max military websites don't update regularly expect ISPR....
well somethings r changed i.e Intakes etc...

 

[Donatello]

more cakes (jf-17) are being cooked at the oven (Thunder city)..

They are speeding things up for sure, i heard they are increasing assembly line @ Kamra and also hiring for Nawabshah manufacturing plant.

Will Nawabshah house the manufacturing line for the export JF-17s or for domestic ones?

Because, at current rate, PAF canno get 150 JF-17s by 2015, and we seriously need them fast, due to recent crashes with Mirage and F-7.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Will Nawabshah house the manufacturing line for the export JF-17s or for domestic ones?

Because, at current rate, PAF canno get 150 JF-17s by 2015

At the rate with only one assembly line in Pakistan 150 is possible by 2017 and request can be made to China to manufacture 36 Airframes [provided we get out of this loan based business]. Any new assembly line would speed up things but I think 180 including JFT Trainers is the maximum PAF should go for beyond that investment should go towards additional F-16 say 26 to complete 90 Vipers figure, and certain number of 5th Gen post 2022+...

 

[abdulbarijan]

Buddy ,Plane uses same engine n frame, nothing change in JF-17 since beginning....you are saying PAF guys dumb?

the PAC website is not updated, and it mentions the specs of PT-01 prototype -- the production model is PT-04 with DSI and LERX -- so there is a difference in weights and airframe.

If you take a look at the development and different articles and posts you can find on the info pool you will understand ---

 

[Secur]

Buddy ,Plane uses same engine n frame, nothing change in JF-17 since beginning....you are saying PAF guys dumb?

PAC guys dont feel the need to pay web developers to update their websites ...

 

[Jango]

more cakes (jf-17) are being cooked at the oven (Thunder city)..

They are speeding things up for sure, i heard they are increasing assembly line @ Kamra and also hiring for Nawabshah manufacturing plant.

JFT's will be manufactured at Nawabshah?

I heard that they will be only produced in Kamra.

 

[giant panda]

even it extend to 4000 kg then also Chinese specifications are wrong....their are three sets of specifications "on is Chinese" and "one is Pak " and one is with if n ***** ....This happen first time same plane clamming to be different specifications....

According to a very long interview of the former PAC official (pupu 2007 year).

The former PAC official said :

JF-17 PT-04 Max speed :2.0 mach,basic range(internal fuel):2000km+,max load: 3.9 ton. combat range (with 3 fuel tank ): 1300km+


(old PT-01/PT-03 without DSI version : Max speed:1.6 mach, basic range(internal fuel): 1800km, max load:3.6 ton).


This is a huge leap of JF-17 PT-04 indeed.

google translation:

Procurement of advanced fighter aircraft, plus we give up the higher demands is the introduction of the Mirage 2000 and jas-39 plan, the JF-17 super-horizon attack capability (BVR) and precision strike capability on the ground / sea targets necessary. The success of the J-10 is the the PAF a new understanding of the technical capabilities of China's aviation industry, originally planned modification upgrade by European companies turn by the Chinese company responsible for.

Reporter: That is from the U.S. aid to Pakistan can take advantage of the savings for independent development of high-tech project.

PAC official: so that the defense minister also presented the progress report of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in the project submitted to the Working Group in Chengdu, the report confirmed the completion of the new PAF tactical and technical indicators the PT-04 has entered the last debugging flight status. Report CAC can be completed in such a short time improvements including aerodynamic layout admire optimized design and tuning of these aspects of the PT-04, using the advanced BUMP inlet to replace the original fixed inlet boundary layer separator and increased the area of the wing edge strips in order to make better use of eddy current lift. In Western called DSI inlet technology is to design a bulge in the intake port in front of the machine body, the pre-compression of the air entering the inlet through the drum kit, and blowing in addition to the boundary layer.

This design was first for the U.S. Joint Strike Fighter F-35, is a more advanced technology in the field of aviation pneumatic. The DSI design can significantly simplify the structure of lower weight. And to improve the high-speed performance of the aircraft, its advanced nature is self-evident. Increased dramatically improved aerodynamic design, the PT-04 in the overall technical performance earlier PT-01/PT-03 maximum Mach number of the aircraft upgrade from 1.6 to 2.0. Maximum load from 3600 kg up to 3900 kilograms. In addition, relying on the case of the aircraft's own children fuel load and a maximum range of up to 2000 km from 1800 km to carry external fuel tanks with a combat radius of 1300 km. The report stressed that the PT-04 device fully comparable with the latest F-16 avionics and glass cockpit.

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google translation：


Reporter: Thank you for my interview, I would like to ask you a few minutes to summarize what we just talked about.

The PAC official: As a former Pakistan Air Force (PAF) is also one of the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC), my colleagues and I have been a dream. Let that one day use our own force for the PAF mounted on the wings, and allow our pilots to fly its own modern fighters to defend Pakistan's airspace. To achieve this dream, we waited a long time, also paid a lot. While we make efforts may not make all the people are satisfied, but I believe that when our dreams become reality when the JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft from the vision into reality, everything is worth it. As the next 20 years, the most important to the PAF fighter, JF-17 has extraordinary significance for enhancing Pakistan's defense forces and the modernization of the aviation industry. Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) JF-17 production and modifications to improve the work and become more powerful, which will become South Asia's premier aviation-industrial complex. Pakistan will also become the first the country has a complete aviation R & D and manufacturing capabilities in the Muslim world
Thanks to the People's Republic of China for a long time with the help of Pakistan, the sincere friendship between China and Pakistan, called the model of the world today-friendly state-to-state relations. Whether it is India and Pakistan during the war against Pakistan selfless assistance to the 1998 nuclear test, speak up standing in Pakistan's stance on the world's only large country. F-6 in the 1960s to today's JF-17, the cooperation between the two countries in the field of aviation technology, and from a purely technical output to a establish a close working relationship. As President Musharraf said: friendship with the People's Republic of China is a pillar of our foreign policy, Sino-Pakistani friendship relations have withstood the test of time, is deeply rooted. Despite the world's ever-changing, the Pakistan-China friendship is stronger and deeper. The world situation is rapidly evolving, but enjoys a solid foundation of friendly relations between Pakistan and not only unaffected, but more mature, more colorful flowers. China and Pakistan to work together, will play a key role in the new Asian century.
As the powerhouse of South Asia, a prestigious air, since 1965, the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) to defend the dignity of the country bound to get involved into the first line of the second India-Pakistan war, while the enemy has a 4:1 number of advantages, tenacious style of our military trained pilots innate loyalty and faith crushed the attempt of the enemy's aggression. From the establishment of the Pakistan Air Force immortal legend. The third Indo-Pakistan war in 1971, although an Eastern Front Pakistan army defeated, the the Dongba capital of Dhaka fall and end. Loyal darlings with firm conviction and fearless fighting spirit. Given during the entire war is still dominant in the quality and quantity of equipment to hit the enemy. In the past ten years, the PAF in the quality and quantity of double disadvantage in terms of tactics or momentum did not lose the opponent, the tough combat power can not be taken lightly always been afraid to force those who seek to change the political map of the South Asian region by force overstepped.

As the late chief of staff of the Air Chief Marshal Mushaf will be warned us: "There is no cheap defense in the name of Allah Pakistan Air Force war fighting to defend the country's interests. Airpower only clear thought, a single fans guidelines of the flute and offensive spirit in order to achieve the best results. Pakistan Air Force never exist for survival, if necessary, we will not hesitate to launch a firm and decisive blow if tomorrow comes, the Pakistan Air Force will once again prove their loyalty with resolute, choose the latter between the defeat and death is our constant faith. "...

editor in chief: PUPU

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[Last Hope]

JFT's will be manufactured at Nawabshah?

I heard that they will be only produced in Kamra.

You heard wrong, there will be three separate JF-17 production lines for export purposes.

 

[Jango]

You heard wrong, there will be three separate JF-17 production lines for export purposes.

Third line being in....???