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abay bhai me kidher ja ke sar maroon :hitwall: MERAY BHAI YE PICTURE FAKE HAI, KITNI DAFA DIKHAOON :shout:

Why you guys find these non issues to worry for? What next now, whether it has an ejection seat or not?? huh..... Imagine a fourth gen fighter, fulfilling a mainstay role and PAF/ China forgot to put Chaff/ Flare dispensers on it. :D
 
Aug 9, 2011
An Update on JF-17 Block II

An Update on JF-17 Block II ~ ASIAN DEFENCE NEWS

The JF-17 Block II is believed to have AESA radars similar to those observed on the J-10B. The integrated avionics, sensors and EW suite is entirely Chinese and is believed to be at the level of Europes best planes. The AESA radar is a slightly smaller version of the one being utilized for the J-10B. The radar is highly sophisticated and its installation is beyond the present capacity at PAC Kamra and will thus require the aircraft to take a trip to Nanjing, China.

The Block II will be the standard version to be used in the PAF with the older Block Is to be retired after the end of production for the first 150 aircraft. This suggests that the structural changes needed to convert the Block Is to Block II standard are significant, suggesting considerable changes to the revised edition. The following are believed to be some of the key changes:

1. AESA radar

2. Comprehensive upgrades for low RCS profile including cockpit glass, RAM paint, refined structure, completely new nose structure for AESA, significant increase in the use of composites and retractable refueling probe.

3. Awaited integration of A-Darter missiles from Brazil / South Africa with HOBS capability and Brazilian HMS.

4. The BVR missile is the SD-10B which has been found more than a match for the AMRAAM-120 C5s. An unknown Meteor class missile is in the works beyond the SD-10Bs.

These blogs have really started quoting many people on defence forums now, i remember this exactly was said by EagleHannan and pshamim in another forum almost if not more than atleast 1 and a half month ago . but this blog seems to be copying it after so long time
 
Block Is to be retired after the end of production for the first 150 aircraft.

Are these going to be put up for sale to BAF/Zimbabwean Air Force or ??. Why would PAF retire by then 6/7 year old airframe with alot of life and room for upgrades.

No, they will not be retired , infact i posted the same news few months ago and same question was raised, These aircrafts will probably be transferred to OCU squadron and for training of the pilots of other airforces who will buy these aircrafts in future
 
These blogs have really started quoting many people on defence forums now, i remember this exactly was said by EagleHannan and pshamim in another forum almost if not more than atleast 1 and a half month ago . but this blog seems to be copying it after so long time
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/85440-paf-jxx-fifth-gen-fighter-24.html so wat you say about tthis post or it is also a copy of any member of defence.pk in which paf confirm fifth generation stealth fighter ASIAN DEFENCE
 
http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-aviation/85440-paf-jxx-fifth-gen-fighter-24.html so wat you say about tthis post or it is also a copy of any member of defence.pk in which paf confirm fifth generation stealth fighter ASIAN DEFENCE

Abaseen most of these blogs are run by people like you and me, they don't have much to carry out their own research so they get infos from here and there by quoting some news sources or by quoting some credible members from different defence forums ,and thats the way it goes .

BTW these infos are not quoted from defence.pk rather another green forum

Also let me tell you one thing the post regarding J2X of which the link you have provided me above contains pics that are not J2X rather that is some other aircraft which was previously tagged as jf-17 block2 by them and now they are calling it J2X , believe me that person who embedded those pics in that article has no idea what he is talking about. Most of these bloggers even don't know the ABC of aviation

You can't believe that i have seen such videos and articles by people where they have shown some western aircrafts and named them as jf-17 and the people watching those videos and pics have no idea about the reality and they are thanking him for his videos and posts
 
jxx is another 5 gen . fighter and it is bigger than j20
it is j2x not jxx

Nope, J-XX is not an individual fighter or a name of any individual aircraft rather J-xx is a code name given to all the Chinese stealth aircraft projects undergoing currently . J is the alphabetical designation of all Chinese aircrafts like J-7, J-10 , J-11 etc while the two "XX" are variables they can be replaced with certain numeric numbers once the fighter comes to the scene .
 
Nope, J-XX is not an individual fighter or a name of any individual aircraft rather J-xx is a code name given to all the Chinese stealth aircraft projects undergoing currently . J is the alphabetical designation of all Chinese aircrafts like J-7, J-10 , J-11 etc while the two "XX" are variables they can be replaced with certain numeric numbers once the fighter comes to the scene .

yes sir u r
right that is the point that members should understand
 
China AVIC promotes combat aircraft exportation, including J-10 Fighter
Posted on 25 July 2011 by admin Print This Post


2011-07-25 (China Military News from China-defense-mashup) -- On 2011 May. 23, China AVIC released a brief report of company internal activities and announced to promote the exportation of its new tactic fighters, such as J-10, L-15 and FC-1.
The brief report emphasized the exploration of world military aircraft market. The AVIC will ensure the latter part of FC-1 Sino-Pakistan contract, including 50 FC-1 fighters, and provide the first operational version of L-15 Advanced Jet Trainer for the customer. The Corporation will push the agreement signing of a Sino-Egypt Project, an exportation of FC-1 single/dual-seat fighter.
Besides, the AVIC will try to seek the potential buyers of its J-10 Fighter, or called as "Vigorous Dragon" fighter in AVIC. The AVIC has determined to provide an exportation version of J-10 fighter to expand its market in some developing countries. And the company also believes that the dual-seat FC-1 multi-functional fighter is another good selection.
In the brief report, AVIC plans to explore international civil and military helicopter market.http://www.china-defense-mashup.com/china-avic-promotes-combat-aircraft-exportation-including-j-10-fighter.html
 
What ever this birds has C/F or not .. But it has the Real Beauty.

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In the JF-17BLOCK2 the message, the outside world for the first time to know the SD-10B active radar guided air to air missiles, the existence of Pakistan that the SD-10B's performance can be introduced with AIM-120 air to air missiles, compared, and in weight than the existing The SD-10 to lighter, from the air show public view, China's SD-10 air to air missile a maximum range of over 70 km, the effective range of 50 km, and AIM-120A is similar to the latter's maximum range of more than 80 km, the effective range of 55 km, but the SD-10's size and weight must be greater than AIM-120A, so that for the JF-17 light fighter, the mount SD-10, on the flight performance impact is too large, in particular, mounted on the outer wing pylons, you need to reach launchers to adjust the focus of the new century from the U.S. introduction of F-16C/D-BLOCK52 PAF fighter, equipped with the above AIM-120C5, the 1990 Taking into account the U.S. Navy's AIM-54 "Phoenix" the long-range air to air missiles, retired, the successor of advanced air to air missile-AAAM plan is terminated, the U.S. Navy for long-range air strike capability targets a substantial decline, as a quick supplement to the U.S. Navy requires AIM-120 can intercept distance of more than 40 miles (60 kilometers) of air targets, this is the AIM-120C5, compared with the prototype missile, the missile to increase the weight of the missile engines, increased from 45 kg to 50 kg, while improving the grain's surface, so that more regular and full combustion, increasing the time and fuel specific impulse, so that AIM-120C5 missile interceptor prototype increases range from about 10%, while improving the guidance Head of the signal / data processing capacity, increasing the number of warhead fragments, and comprehensively improve the three generations of the twin's ability to destroy aircraft, the improved AIM-120C5 and AIM-120C7 continue to increase the rocket engine, its effective range has been further increase from Pakistan's point of view of information sources the performance of SD-10B may be in line towards the AIM-120C5, in improving the range, based on the reduced size and weight, to improve the adaptability of loading, I think it is very important is the possibility of SD-10B also taking into account China's stealth fighter being developed for weaponry, stealth fighter jets to reduce the RCS, airborne weapons are generally placed above the bomb bay, in order to narrow as much as possible inside the bomb bay mounted weapons , so it is necessary to reduce the air to air missile system, AIM-120C than the AIM-120A on the reduction of the tip, to improve the F-22's bomb bay to mount the number, SD-10B may also be the idea, with a range of improved, guided accuracy of the system have to keep up, SD-10B is said with a surprisingly active / passive complex guidance system, with the guidance we are familiar with the source of interference in different ways, this active / passive composite guidance is to use passive mode other airborne radar signal receiver, and then start using the former terminal guidance radar target data to improve detection, both work to improve the seeker detection range and interference, be pointed out that SD-10B does not plan to adopt This guidance system of air to air missiles, AIM-120 also have had such a plan, but the technical difficulty of this seeker of the great need to address the broadband active / passive antenna and radome composite guidance, data fusion series of key technologies Therefore the author for the SD-10B is equipped with guidance systems such reservations, but we seem to speculate about our range air to air missiles in the direction of development.

Improve the performance of air to air missiles, airborne fire control radar, a necessary requirement to be followed to improve the performance, because the latter need to provide air to air missiles to attack the target zone data to calculate, JF-17BLOCK2 with SD-10B-air missiles, which means that the China should be equipped with airborne radar, this is because an aircraft using a weapon, you will need the associated computer program resides in the task or the fire control computer, and these procedures are based on the missile launch envelope preparation , while the missile launch envelope is the core countries of airborne weapons secrets, related to the work of the missile terminal guidance radar tracking distance and angle and the maximum tracking speed, time, energy work on the bomb, the engine thrust and working hours, definitely not will be exposed, so the JF-17BLOCK2 task is basically a computer can be sure that our products, as stated earlier airborne radar to detect the target, it will smooth the data and make forecasts, then the data to the mission computer for processing by the post manipulation of instructions to complete the aircraft, missile attack area, the calculation of the radar scan parameters, clearly would involve airborne radar-related parameters, which is also confidential, so I thus believe that the JF-17BLOCK2 still use our avionics system . 实际上JF-17BLOL01的航空电子系统相当先进,已经超过现有的第三代作战飞机,第三代作战飞机配备的联合式航空电子系统,就是利用数据总线各系统相联, 系统核心是任务计算机,任务计算机负责处理各探测系统获得的信息,然后交显控计算机进行统一显示,而JF-17的航电系统以武器管理控制计算机为核心,其最大特点就是综合了任务和显控两个计算机的功能,从而降低了系统的复杂程度,简化了结构,降低了重量,提高航电系统整体的可靠性.同时也为未来的升级打下了坚实的基础. In fact JF-17BLOL01 avionics system is quite advanced, more than the existing third-generation combat aircraft, the third generation of combat aircraft is equipped with joint-type avionics systems is the use of the system data bus linked to the core mission computer systems, the task computer responsible for processing the detection system to obtain information, and then submitted to a unified display and control a computer display, and the JF-17 avionics system for the management of weapons control computer as the core, its greatest feature is the combination of two computer tasks and display control functions , thereby reducing system complexity and simplify the structure, reducing weight, improving the overall avionics system reliability but also for future upgrades to lay a solid foundation.

According to the China Import and Export Corporation to provide information, present with the JF-17BLOCK1 airborne China KLJ-7 radar-based fire control radar, the radar antenna diameter of 600 mm or so, the next, as detection range of 80 km, the apparent 105 km or so.


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