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So, Russia needs India to "approve" it's decisions?
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So, Russia needs India to "approve" it's decisions?
Since the JF-17 uses Russian engines do you think it's possible it could use Russian radar? I think the zhuk-ae AESA would be a nice choice if India approved the sale (not likely), the zhuk has been quoted to have ranges from 160-200km.
Since the JF-17 uses Russian engines do you think it's possible it could use Russian radar? I think the zhuk-ae AESA would be a nice choice, the zhuk has been quoted to have ranges from 160-200km.
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Yes, but AWACS are not that easy to be destroyed. They roam deep inside the territory, have fighter aircraft escort or planes are on stand by to help them, they have ECMs. And as per my own analysis & general rule, if they are inside or behind a good long range SAM system, then for any aircraft to reach the AWAC would be very tough rather near to impossible.
But yeah a Stealth fighter can do the job very easily.
It is qouted with >105km for targets of 5m², so your figure could be right.The initial J-17 prototypes nose cone was of about 600mm, meaning 60cm, and in the 4th prototype the nose was enlarged to 640mm.
If you check the pictures of older prototypes and the newer version you can easily spot the difference between the diameter size.
And the KLJ-7 radar specifications were about 4-5 years ago, when initially it was said to be for JF-17. 4-5 years are more then enough to increase its specifications and effectiveness.
My rough idea or guess by looking at the nose cone and Chinese radar development, JF-17s radar must be with a look up range of something like 120KM+, but the RCS detection capability would be the real thing to be seen. Is it 5m2, 3m2 or 1m2 target RCS.
If your specs above are right, Zhuk radars should fit too:And other thing is am not sure about the Zhuk radar diameter, and not sure if it can be fitted in the JF-17 due to the size of the nose cone or may be small sized variant may work.
We will rather install a Chinese AESA solution or European ie Vixen-1000e or Vixen-500 AESA.
Also the Engine would be replaced because we need an Engine with 100ktn Thrust most preferably ws-13 if it met the Requirements .
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Yes my friend, Stealth fighter will be present to both India and Israel in the next few years, India with Su-T-50 and Israel with f-35. both can shot down our AWACS, in addition this is not the only way to get AWACS, you can also use long range passive missals which tracking radar signal. Any way AWACS is not 100% protected like the past. At least it will has to fly in the safe place only and this will left some gaps in radar coverage, for Egypt, some the air battles most likely will happened above the Mediterranean sea or red sea far from air defense, in that case the RCS and radar rang and ARHM missiles will make all the different. Any way, this is not far from the near future, Israel already made contract with UAS for 25 F-35 with option to raise number to 75 plane.
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what is the thrust rate of RD-93??
It is qouted with >105km for targets of 5m², so your figure could be right.
If your specs above are right, Zhuk radars should fit too:
Zhuk ME - 624mm
Zhuk AE (at least the early version) - 575mm
Last year there was a report here, that Zhuk ME and an upgraded RD93 would be on offer for JF 17 (I guess block 2), so I wouldn't completely rule it out.
The Vixen has a range of 65km why would you want that
Isn't Pakistan looking at some French systems?
ktn is kn correct? There is cerrently no engine that i'm aware of that can produce 100 kn that is small enough to fit in the JF-17.
Even the Typhoon's EJ-200 produce 90 km. From my reasearch on the WS-13 i have found that it produces 86 kn and needs an overhaul every 800 hours, on the other hand the RD-33MK produces 88 kn and needs an overhoul every 4,000 hours, that alone should be reason enough.
Now when looking at some of the engine options we have the options of:
Rafale's M88-2: 75kn
Typhoon's EJ-22: 90kn
RD-33MK: 88kn
WS-13: 86kn
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No neither will happen... as of today both mentioned countries does not even know the price of T-50 and f-35 respectively.
Where as development of T-50 is not yet complete.
Sorry but from your post it seems you are considering AWACS as radars only!
No sir... AWACS is more of a control system of battel management, which can be ground based as well! it's just the same but little advance and airborne too!
Normal fighter aircrafts flying far away can relay its own radar results to it.