JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 3]

[fanna4paf1]

by the end of this year. what that is not 2 late?

 

[farhan_9909]

by the end of this year. what that is not 2 late?

A squarden means 18 fighter

so inducting 18 fighter per year is more then enough

it means by 2010 end we will hav 40jf

 

[fanna4paf1]

no janiii i never think 18 are not little quantity. yes i also listen that news but i think his mean pakistan will complete in the end of this year

14 + 4 = 18

just four" lets see what happen 18 or 4 but i think maximum 8 to 10 thunder will be ready at the end of this year not 18 its a big number

 

[Dazzler]

PAC KAMRA has now attained capability to manufacture 2 fighters per month as was mentioned in recent AFM magazine. By the year end, PAF will have two squadrons of jf-17 block 1 configuration and after 50 aircraft of block 1, block 2 production will commence as its radar, avionics are being tested in China progressively at the moment. Block 2 induction will begin by 2011 onwards and will include our indigenous avionics, IRST, AAR etc.....

 

[Dazzler]

Manufacturing of many parts of jf-17s began in Pakistan in mid 2008 and we are already manufacturing more than 25 % of the aircraft that includes vertical tail, front fuselage, wings etc. For this purpose and to maintain very high manufacturing standards, most of the heavy machinery is imported from Sweden and not from China although some did come from there. It has also allowed easy and relatively quick assembling/manufacturing process due to high standard achieved by using state of the art machinery and highly professional and skillful local labor.

 

[Kompromat]

PAC KAMRA has now attained capability to manufacture 2 fighters per month as was mentioned in recent AFM magazine. By the year end, PAF will have two squadrons of jf-17 block 1 configuration and after 50 aircraft of block 1, block 2 production will commence as its radar, avionics are being tested in China progressively at the moment. Block 2 induction will begin by 2011 onwards and will include our indigenous avionics, IRST, AAR etc.....

Any Design Changes planned for Block II ?

 

[rAli]

Nabil,

Thanks for giving as great info on JF-17s. Had couple of questions, Will IRST be nose mounted or are we talking about adding an IRST pod.. Do you anticipate engine being changed to WS-13 in Block 2 as well? Can't wait to see Block 2 Thunders..

 

[Kompromat]

Nabil,

Thanks for giving as great info on JF-17s. Had couple of questions, Will IRST be nose mounted or are we talking about adding an IRST pod.. Do you anticipate engine being changed to WS-13 in Block 2 as well? Can't wait to see Block 2 Thunders..

WS-13 has completed taxi trails in China so hold your horses , you will see it in the next block hopefully.

 

[MastanKhan]

Manufacturing of many parts of jf-17s began in Pakistan in mid 2008 and we are already manufacturing more than 25 % of the aircraft that includes vertical tail, front fuselage, wings etc. For this purpose and to maintain very high manufacturing standards, most of the heavy machinery is imported from Sweden and not from China although some did come from there. It has also allowed easy and relatively quick assembling/manufacturing process due to high standard achieved by using state of the art machinery and highly professional and skillful local labor.

Hi Nabil,

Thankyou little brother for presenting that gem of an information---hein hein hein---swedish machinery for a chinese fighter.

Paf does have its shortcomings but they are not stupid all the way. This equipment will mean that pak manufactured frame will be of superior quality than the chinese manufactured one.

Now wouldn't that have been a coupe de grace if they had bought a swedish plane bulit with swedish machinery---------I guess they would have to name it Grippen.

But if a chinese fighter is fabricated out of a swedish machine--what would you call it---a Chrippen

 

[Mani2020]

Hi Nabil,

Thankyou little brother for presenting that gem of an information---hein hein hein---swedish machinery for a chinese fighter.

Paf does have its shortcomings but they are not stupid all the way. This equipment will mean that pak manufactured frame will be of superior quality than the chinese manufactured one.

Now wouldn't that have been a coupe de grace if they had bought a swedish plane bulit with swedish machinery---------I guess they would have to name it Grippen.

But if a chinese fighter is fabricated out of a swedish machine--what would you call it---a Chrippen

Sir i dont think its right to degrade Chinese tech to such extent.Atleast they are producing something infact all the things not like many other big countries like we have in our neighborhood buying all the time from others and ridled with failures

Atleast whatever they have produced they use it with dignity and honor not like us ....we never want to buy any Pakistani made thing ...but the same products made in Pakistan which are being sold in Uk,Us we love to buy them with 3 times more money.China have done in a short period of time wat many other nations couldnot have done from space programs to missile technology

Yes they have this ability to produce A class as well as C class equipment ,now its upto you wat you want A or C

And why to Blame chinese tech time n time again they never begged us to participate in Thunder program it was our need to do so.We were embargoed by your so called high tech western friends,and when chance came we never had the money to buy these sophisticated weapons

So fault lies within us not within chinese technology. Thanks to them that they have helped you in times of need other wise your bigger enemy may have gulped you long time ago


As far as US aerospace technology is concerned they were not born as specialists they learnt this art from Germans
and mastered it with time. Same goes for Japan they started like China there products were considered as joke few years back now see them the have the best technology in the world when it comes to electronics.And you yourself said in another thread that Honda gives tough time to BMW and Mercedes and some times Honda has better quality than these.

 

[rohailmalhi]

Hi Nabil,

Thankyou little brother for presenting that gem of an information---hein hein hein---swedish machinery for a chinese fighter.

Paf does have its shortcomings but they are not stupid all the way. This equipment will mean that pak manufactured frame will be of superior quality than the chinese manufactured one.

Now wouldn't that have been a coupe de grace if they had bought a swedish plane bulit with swedish machinery---------I guess they would have to name it Grippen.

But if a chinese fighter is fabricated out of a swedish machine--what would you call it---a Chrippen

No it would be called PakMade Jf17 .

I know PAF will keep surprizing us .coz its there nature they get the best things ,might have lost sum good chances (as sir u have mentioned) but not every time .Whtever resources they can gather they are doing there very best with this JF17 project . and i think after few more years a true multirole JF17 will be out there for sale with aala kind of configuration.
Best of Luck to PAF

 

[Hasnain2009]

Hi Nabil,

Thankyou little brother for presenting that gem of an information---hein hein hein---swedish machinery for a chinese fighter.

Paf does have its shortcomings but they are not stupid all the way. This equipment will mean that pak manufactured frame will be of superior quality than the chinese manufactured one.

Now wouldn't that have been a coupe de grace if they had bought a swedish plane bulit with swedish machinery---------I guess they would have to name it Grippen.

But if a chinese fighter is fabricated out of a swedish machine--what would you call it---a Chrippen

Hi MK!
So now u happy with JF-17?
Some people degrade Chinese avionics, today china is producing major part of best electronics of the world, there defense budget is $100bn, so i think today then can manufacture 4.5gen ac and its all avionics and weapons, but the only prob is that they are still not combat proven!

 

[Jazzbot]

my apologies in advance.

but sometimes i really doubt the nationality of Mastan Khan.. seems like he lives with some indian mate, and allow him to sometimes post from his own account lol.. (no offense)

 

[Dazzler]

@MK

Please do not tell me that you are not aware of strings attached with Grippen and still you want PAF to have gone for it?

 

[mjnaushad]

Hello,
People of the forum, i think we have had enough discussions regarding JF-17 radars, missiles, engine, avionics etc. so just for a change what do u people think that who should direct the promotional video of JF-17 Thunder, Pakistan has some good directors like Jammi, Asim Raza, Saqib Malik who have the caliber to perform this task but since this project can earn us billions so we can also go for foreign directors. Pakistan has always lagged in the promotional skills so if Pakistan want to export JF-17 we are going to have to do a lot more than flying a green colored JF-17around the skies in ISB or few pictures of JF-17 carrying runway bombs isn't enough to attract the customers, strong advertisement always lure the customers irrelevant of the true capabilities of the product. So it's time for a change PA never advertised Alkhalid tank the way they should have, similarly i have a feeling that the same treatment will be given to JF-17 thunder. However, i am hoping that PAF wont be slacking off like PA in this respect & will try to glorify the image of JF-17 as much as possible

No body knows the reality. But promotional videos are not always reality

JF 17 video.....Animated