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In the design of JF-17 extra room has been kept aside for any future upgrade involving a larger engine, so in future a larger more powerful engine can be installed in the JF-17, and with use of composites its weight can further be reduced to compensate the weight gained in having a larger engine.
And the radar isn't KLJ-7, its much better one compared to the original KLJ-7 specifications, and the current radar is better in performance wise compared to the radars we are having on our F-16, keeping aside the Blk 52s.
And the Chinese radar isn't of 90s technology, do remember the 2000s decade has also passed in it, during which lot of improvements have been done.
And yeah we did order 18 Blk 52s, and we left the option for ordering 18 further, hope so you can guess why.
JIGS
here is fe information and comparison b/w AN/APG-66(V)2 and KLJ-7
i hope it will help u
APG-66(V)2 - upgrade of base radar. New signal processor, higher output power, improved reliability. Range in clutter/jamming environment increased to 83 km. where as it doesnt have track while scan ability but the later variant APG-66T had which by the way is not used by PAF
Frequency: 6.2 to 10.9 GHz
Volume: 0.08 m³ to 0.102 m³ depending on configuration
Weight: 98 to 135 kg depending on configuration
KJL-7
Introduced Mid-2000s
Range:
Look-up: ≥105 km (for RCS of 5 m2)
Look-down: ≥85 km (for RCS of 5 m2)
Frequency X-band
Volume: 0.065 m3
Weight: ≤120 kg
The radar can reportedly manage up to 40 targets, monitor up to 10 of them in track-while-scan (TWS) mode and simultaneously fire on two BVR targets.
Radar modes
Data from: CETC International
Range While Search (RWS)
Velocity Search (VS)
Single Target Track (STT)
Track While Scan (TWS)
Dual Target Track (DTT)
Situational Awareness Mode (SAM)
Air Combat Mode (ACM)(with five sub-modes)
Real Beam Map (RBM)
Doppler Beam Sharpening (DBS)
Ground Moving Target Indication/Ground Moving Target Track (GMTI/GMTT)
Air to Ground Ranging (AGR)
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR)
Sea Single Target Track (SSTT)
Beacon (BCN)
Were there upgrades made to the KLJ-7 ? I thought Pakistan wanted to replace that radar eventually ?
Also i am sure upgrades will be made since Pakistan has manufacturing capabilities. I still think that more F-16s should be put in service as the older aircraft are phased out. JF-17 would be the main fighter while more F-16 block 52s slowly get aquired into service.
That would work best imo having a large number of JF-17s as well as a good number of F-16s. Unless pakistan feels better with getting J-10s for the more elite role.
Comparing JF-17 to F-16 is not fair.
F-16 is a better plane any day. JF-17 may be a good plane, but F-16 simply is better.
AMRAAM 120 Missiles can be installed on JF-17 but you also need the perfect radar to guide them. Countermeasure are important too. Electronic warfare software is important, which is a million times better in F-16. I am not discouraging people here, but JF-17 should not be inflated. Ask a Pakistani F-16 fighter and he will laugh if you even compare the two.
Radar ranges don't tell the whole story. One needs to take other factors into play, if the radar can be jammed, if its accurate, if it can be fooled, how it behaves with different objects with different rcs.
Pakistan has a wonderful gem in their inventory, should be proud of it. The airforce is buying more F-16s even after having trouble of sanctions for so many years. They are not stupid.
Comparing JF-17 to F-16 is not fair.
F-16 is a better plane any day. JF-17 may be a good plane, but F-16 simply is better.
AMRAAM 120 Missiles can be installed on JF-17 but you also need the perfect radar to guide them. Countermeasure are important too. Electronic warfare software is important, which is a million times better in F-16. I am not discouraging people here, but JF-17 should not be inflated. Ask a Pakistani F-16 fighter and he will laugh if you even compare the two.
Radar ranges don't tell the whole story. One needs to take other factors into play, if the radar can be jammed, if its accurate, if it can be fooled, how it behaves with different objects with different rcs.
Pakistan has a wonderful gem in their inventory, should be proud of it. The airforce is buying more F-16s even after having trouble of sanctions for so many years. They are not stupid.
Main point i was trying to make JF-17 is a great plane for pakistan because it is manufacturing it and will of course upgrade it and make it better as time goes on but the fact remains the F-16s will be the most advanced in inventory. Having both will boost the PAF considerably in strength.
PAF F-16s pilots are flying the JF-17s, hope this gives you an idea that why. And these pilots were asked on voluntary basis if they wish to come back to the F-16s program, and guess what they said, NO. Becoz they like JF-17 more then their previous love F-16s. And in simulated dog fights during training sessions, JF-17 defeated F-16s, not once but on multiple occasions.
And PAF is not buying more F-16s, 18 Blk 52s and the option for ordering another 18 was not exercised. If they got EDA or 2nd hand F-16s, fine or else they will be going for FC-20s and JF-17s in numbers.
And PAF is happy for the time being with its current JF-17 radar, which is much better in all categories then the current radars on the current F-16s.
any source?
Source for what ??
source for simulated dog fights, f16 pilots praising jf17 more than F16, JF-17 being better than F16.
Just tell me one thing in JF-17 that you thing outclasses F16's.
Except for weapons load & ferry range, you tell me what you think in which field JF-17 lacks from our current F-16s of 80s.