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Japan’s fear of China

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Japan's new Prime Minister Fumio Kishida (front center) poses with members of his cabinet at the prime minister's official residence in Tokyo on Oct. 4. (AFP/Stanislav Kogiku)

(The Jakarta Post) Jakarta ● Thu, October 7, 2021

Japan’s combination of fear, anxiety, helplessness and some remnants of past superiority and pride against China is reflected in the top priority programs of newly elected Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida.

The former foreign minister, who was sworn in to replace Yoshihide Suga on Monday, announced his intention to boost the already strong military alliance with the United States as his top priority for foreign affairs. Such a choice means Japan’s foreign policy will focus on how to counter China. In doing so, Japan will pay less attention to its regional neighbors such as ASEAN.

Economic relations and investment may remain stable, but we cannot expect Japan to come up with major breakthroughs as it will take this region, including Indonesia, for granted while China’s economic and military might steadily rises.

China is a direct threat to Japan in terms economy, security and territorial sovereignty. Japan is also surrounded by hostile countries such as South Korea, North Korea and Russia. Japan, the world’s third largest economy, wants to fight China, the world’s second most powerful economy, but is too afraid to do it alone.

Therefore Japan has formed military alliances with China’s nemeses like the US, Australia and India, under a group called the Quad, although Japan is not a key player. Yet a more assertive China is worrying not only for Japan, but for many other countries, which China can easily punish with severe economic sanctions.

Although heavily economically dependent on China, Japan is able to forge mutually beneficial ties that elude developing countries. Japan needs the umbrella of US protection because its people are very reluctant to revise the US-drafted Constitution. Although Japan’s military posture meets the qualities of normal military power, the Japanese people do not want to formalize it due to the long-standing trauma of World War II.

Strangely, or uniquely, Kishida will also angle human rights problems at China. Japan has rarely shown appetite for addressing human rights issues in other countries. For Japan it is economic cooperation that matters, without caring much for the human rights records of its partners. Hopefully as this the policy shift happens, it will apply to Indonesia.

The Lower House’s election has been moved forward a few weeks to Oct. 31 as Kishida wants to use the new leadership change as an opportunity to attract more votes from the apathetic Japanese people. It seems that Kishida’s future will not be very different from that of his predecessor Suga, who could only survive one year. Like Suga, Kishida is overshadowed by the influence of former Japanese PM Shinzo Abe.

Japanese voters are traditionally reluctant to vote for younger politicians who promise major changes, unlike in countries like Indonesia and Canada. Japanese voters prefer stability and political certainty. Whatever the result of the Oct. 31 Lower House election, PM Kishida will unlikely survive longer than his predecessor Suga. For Indonesia there will be no major changes to its bilateral ties with Japan too. Japan will remain one of Indonesia’s most important economic partners.

But we cannot expect more, as long as Japan cannot overcome its fear of China.


 
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Japan just has their tough time. 2000 of their companies are go bankrupt. So now they want Quad to replay the old Qing versus 8 countries
 
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China really needs to sort their political stance regarding japan,none should be so politically autistic when dealing with any nation.
China talks about US hegemony and their propaganda campaign and then conveniently latches on the same narrative that backs the institution of US for hegemony upon Japan and exacerbates the US and their allies initiated atrocity propaganda from ww2 era,China must respect Japanese sentiment,culture and history unless they want to face Japan,US and a whole lot of coalition in a self-defeating clash. All that for an out-of-control political theatre. China has no real reason to have anomisity toward japan in the 21st century, the island senkaku, is of little geopolitical importance, and based on facts it rightfully goes to Japan's sovereignty. It's simple thug like party politics to antagonize Japan and or try reclaim island which their own Qing gov(Which CPC claim to inherit) ruled as outside Chinese territory in their own accessment. China might have the moral advantage when dealing with US but ,it stands on the wrong side when dealing with japan. Their whole stance is based on political stance,fabricated propaganda and blind nationalism.
 
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China really needs to sort their political stance regarding japan,none should be so politically autistic when dealing with any nation.
China talks about US hegemony and their propaganda campaign and then conveniently latches on the same narrative that backs the institution of US for hegemony upon Japan and exacerbates the US and their allies initiated atrocity propaganda from ww2 era,China must respect Japanese sentiment,culture and history unless they want to face Japan,US and a whole lot of coalition in a self-defeating clash. All that for an out-of-control political theatre. China has no real reason to have anomisity toward japan in the 21st century, the island senkaku, is of little geopolitical importance, and based on facts it rightfully goes to Japan's sovereignty. It's simple thug like party politics to antagonize Japan and or try reclaim island which their own Qing gov(Which CPC claim to inherit) ruled as outside Chinese territory in their own accessment. China might have the moral advantage when dealing with US but ,it stands on the wrong side when dealing with japan. Their whole stance is based on political stance,fabricated propaganda and blind nationalism.

China hates Japan way more than US or any other country. Japan is a historical enemy of China. This will never ever change.
 
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China hates Japan way more than US or any other country. Japan is a historical enemy of China. This will never ever change.

There are no historical enemies. Someone who is your enemy today can be your friend tomorrow.
 
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China hates Japan way more than US or any other country. Japan is a historical enemy of China. This will never ever change.
Yea,it's self defeating,that's why US is the world's prominent power,with undisputed softpower,military and economic might,and things will remain the same unless China remakes itself as a nation more deserving of a state capable of underpinning the US ,with rectitude and capabilities. China would gladly suck US & UK toes,and undergo worship of the west but not bear to even take the smallest of slight from a nation they once felt were lower then them in the pecking order,their poor arrogance was shattered,and they still feel vitriol about that. Better worship anglo-white than acknowledge the prominence of so called yellow folk across the straight. No wonder the western tribe cut up China .
 
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Like Turkey? oh wait.

Turkey is not our eternal enemy. We have bad relations with Erdogan. Once he is dead, which will be a nice day, relations can approve. A good statesmen has no enemies. You should read Macciavelli
 
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Japan hates China: Yes
Japan looks down on China: Yes
Japan is afraid of China: No

Japan is afraid of the Russians and Americans, because the Russians and Americans have committed extremely atrocities against the Japanese: slaughtering Japanese soldiers and civilians, raping Japanese women, taking many land of Japan. Therefore, Japan is afraid of Russia and the US, and also respects these two countries.
 
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Turkey is not our eternal enemy. We have bad relations with Erdogan. Once he is dead, which will be a nice day, relations can approve. A good statesmen has no enemies. You should read Macciavelli

let's see. 1955 Istanbul pogrom, was that Erdogan? Communal violence in Cyprus in the 1960's, was that Erdogan? How about Turkish annexation of Cyprus in 1974, Erdogan too? 1996, Greek Mirage 2000s shot down a Turkish F-16, was that due to provocations by Erdogan?

You've been at conflict with Turkey literally every single decade after WW2 and most decades after independence. It's been 200 years.

This is all Erdogan? This is all one single middle aged man?
 
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let's see. 1955 Istanbul pogrom, was that Erdogan? Communal violence in Cyprus in the 1960's, was that Erdogan? How about Turkish annexation of Cyprus in 1974, Erdogan too? 1996, Greek Mirage 2000s shot down a Turkish F-16, was that due to provocations by Erdogan?

You've been at conflict with Turkey literally every single decade after WW2 and most decades after independence. It's been 200 years.

This is all Erdogan? This is all one single middle aged man?

We had quite good relations until 2015.
 
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It's a sorry state of affairs for Japan. The country could have greatly benefited from extracting itself out of america's clutches, by withdrawing from the "San Francisco Treaty - 1951". Today Japan would have been ideally positioned to meet China and Russia on common ground, resolving the Korean Peninsula divide and working together toward a more cohesive and cooperative Pacific Region. Sadly, decades of "Cold War" rhetoric and the mind-numbing manipulative Western rant to lure other nations on their side, or worse create divide between nations. The brits have done the same with the Middle East and also between Pakistan and hindustan.
 
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Japan’s fear of China

2021_10_06_118187_1633486029._large.jpg

Japan's new Prime Minister Fumio Kishida (front center) poses with members of his cabinet at the prime minister's official residence in Tokyo on Oct. 4. (AFP/Stanislav Kogiku)

(The Jakarta Post) Jakarta ● Thu, October 7, 2021

Japan’s combination of fear, anxiety, helplessness and some remnants of past superiority and pride against China is reflected in the top priority programs of newly elected Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida.

The former foreign minister, who was sworn in to replace Yoshihide Suga on Monday, announced his intention to boost the already strong military alliance with the United States as his top priority for foreign affairs. Such a choice means Japan’s foreign policy will focus on how to counter China. In doing so, Japan will pay less attention to its regional neighbors such as ASEAN.

Economic relations and investment may remain stable, but we cannot expect Japan to come up with major breakthroughs as it will take this region, including Indonesia, for granted while China’s economic and military might steadily rises.

China is a direct threat to Japan in terms economy, security and territorial sovereignty. Japan is also surrounded by hostile countries such as South Korea, North Korea and Russia. Japan, the world’s third largest economy, wants to fight China, the world’s second most powerful economy, but is too afraid to do it alone.

Therefore Japan has formed military alliances with China’s nemeses like the US, Australia and India, under a group called the Quad, although Japan is not a key player. Yet a more assertive China is worrying not only for Japan, but for many other countries, which China can easily punish with severe economic sanctions.

Although heavily economically dependent on China, Japan is able to forge mutually beneficial ties that elude developing countries. Japan needs the umbrella of US protection because its people are very reluctant to revise the US-drafted Constitution. Although Japan’s military posture meets the qualities of normal military power, the Japanese people do not want to formalize it due to the long-standing trauma of World War II.

Strangely, or uniquely, Kishida will also angle human rights problems at China. Japan has rarely shown appetite for addressing human rights issues in other countries. For Japan it is economic cooperation that matters, without caring much for the human rights records of its partners. Hopefully as this the policy shift happens, it will apply to Indonesia.

The Lower House’s election has been moved forward a few weeks to Oct. 31 as Kishida wants to use the new leadership change as an opportunity to attract more votes from the apathetic Japanese people. It seems that Kishida’s future will not be very different from that of his predecessor Suga, who could only survive one year. Like Suga, Kishida is overshadowed by the influence of former Japanese PM Shinzo Abe.

Japanese voters are traditionally reluctant to vote for younger politicians who promise major changes, unlike in countries like Indonesia and Canada. Japanese voters prefer stability and political certainty. Whatever the result of the Oct. 31 Lower House election, PM Kishida will unlikely survive longer than his predecessor Suga. For Indonesia there will be no major changes to its bilateral ties with Japan too. Japan will remain one of Indonesia’s most important economic partners.

But we cannot expect more, as long as Japan cannot overcome its fear of China.



China is least likely to retaliate against Japan, because China wants to tell the world through Japan that China loves peace, even though Japan has invaded China and killed countless Chinese.

But the premise is that Japan cannot participate in the war against China.
 
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Yea,it's self defeating,that's why US is the world's prominent power,with undisputed softpower,military and economic might,and things will remain the same unless China remakes itself as a nation more deserving of a state capable of underpinning the US ,with rectitude and capabilities. China would gladly suck US & UK toes,and undergo worship of the west but not bear to even take the smallest of slight from a nation they once felt were lower then them in the pecking order,their poor arrogance was shattered,and they still feel vitriol about that. Better worship anglo-white than acknowledge the prominence of so called yellow folk across the straight. No wonder the western tribe cut up China .

1. There are only two safe waterways from China's coastal waters to the Pacific Ocean. One is the bus Strait near Huangyan Island, and the other is the Hakone Strait near Diaoyu Island.

2. In 1895, Japan occupied the Diaoyu Islands of the Qing Dynasty. 1943, <Cairo Declaration>. In 1945, <Potsdam Proclamation>. The anti fascist alliance agreed to return the Diaoyu Islands to China after the war.

3. Japan has the third largest GDP in the world and has strong manufacturing and financial capital. They have a population of more than 100 million and a homogeneous and united nation. If such a country gets rid of the control of the USA, it has enough ability to divide China's influence in East Asia.

4. China is seizing Japan's market in high-end machine tools, automobile manufacturing, precision instruments, semiconductor raw materials and other industries. The USA is also cracking down on Japanese manufacturing.

5. China is not ready for the collapse of the dollar system. The USA can let Japan buy a lot of U.S. debt to support the dollar system.

6. China can accept reconciliation with Japan's left-wing govt, but we don't trust the right-wing govt.


This is not the best time to achieve reconciliation with Japan and change its attitude towards Japan. We are willing to wait for the USA to continue to weaken Japan.
Maybe when the left-wing govt of Japan comes to power, we can help them achieve independence.
 
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