Japanese Prime Minister rejects Putin's invitation to attend Victory Parade

[gau8av]

Ok six days until the parade...do we have a list of world leaders who are going?

China, India....

that's 40% of the world represent right there

shame Kim Jong Un cancelled

 

[DJ Crudept]

I prefer quality over quanity. In the end what do your people produce? Nothing. A slave army and thats it.

Your people don´t even look attractive.

As for WW II. It depends. In Italy we see it mostly positive. Mussolini even has a memorial in rome.

I prefer quality over quanity. In the end what do your people produce? Nothing. A slave army and thats it.

Your people don´t even look attractive.

As for WW II. It depends. In Italy we see it mostly positive. Mussolini even has a memorial in rome.

@Neemo neemo Global Impact of India :

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[MarkusS]

@Neemo neemo Global Impact of India :

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Your impact seems to be pretty small considering the fact that one of the two is already home and the other works in our embassy and attends night clubs and parties. Is that usual for indian crime investigation?

Is it also usual for india that it dropps cases on pressure of another nation? If i remember right india wanted to make it a terrorism case but dropped it on italian pressure.

Sorry but you are simply a 3rd world nation and we cater a bit th audience because business contracts.

 

[UKBengali]

Our economy is slowly growing. I love my country and i think i habe evry right to do so.

Ok. Let us take a look at some forecasts from IMF of GDP growth:

Country ---------------- 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
India GDP %change 7.460 7.468 7.554 7.653 7.702 7.751
Italy- GDP%change 0.487 1.096 1.100 1.100 1.050 1.000

As you can see the expected growth of the Indian economy is nearly 8% a year over the next 5 years. With a growth rate of 8% a year for five years, then you will see a noticeable difference in a country.

If you go back 100 years, then Italy would have been not much better than India is now. Every country has it's ups and downs throughout history.

lool Ok, though dont think even Indians here hink they are more powerful than Britain yet.lol
You said Russia is now China's junior partner? then how come you still copy all their weapons systems, rely on them for your engines, ask them to build nuclear power pants for you etc? Remember they are still your main arms supplier(worth billions of dollars)?? Tuth be told, you have to be thankful to the Russians, since without them exporting their engines,weapons to China, i dont know where China will be today militarily. From which country will you have copied/reverse engineered your weapons to get to where you are today? Afterall we imposed military sanctions on you since the 1990s(your leaders have urged the U.S to relieve these sanctions now for a longgg time invane), tough our European leaders still export some engines/weapons parts to China(on the cover of civilian cooperation.lol). So be grateful to moscow, if not how would you have been flying your fighter jets all these years? with which engines(even your new strealth fighters still rely on moscow's engines to power them)would you have rely on to power such powerful jets??

@vostok , @senheiser , @ptldM3

All that would have happened is that the Chinese would have been initially using turbojets to power the J-10 and J-11B fighters. From say 2010 onwards even the J-10 would have had the WS-10A installed but with less reliability and less lifespan than a Russian engine. You are really overestimating the reliance that China now has to Russian military technology. China uses them as the cost/benefit ratio is still higher to use Russian than use domestic engines

 

[MarkusS]

Ok. Let us take a look at some forecasts from IMF of GDP growth:

Country ---------------- 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020
India GDP %change 7.460 7.468 7.554 7.653 7.702 7.751
Italy- GDP%change 0.487 1.096 1.100 1.100 1.050 1.000

As you can see the expected growth of the Indian economy is nearly 8% a year over the next 5 years. With a growth rate of 8% a year for five years, then you will see a noticeable difference in a country.

If you go back 100 years, then Italy would have been not much better than India is now. Every country has it's ups and downs throughout history.



All that would have happened is that the Chinese would have been initially using turbojets to power the J-10 and J-11B fighters. From say 2010 onwards even the J-10 would have had the WS-10A installed but with less reliability and less lifespan than a Russian engine. You are really overestimating the reliance that China now has to Russian military technology. China uses them as the cost/benefit ratio is still higher to use Russian than use domestic engines

Italy never was on such a low stage that india is now. 100 years ago Italy crushed the ottoman empire in northern africa and had colonies all over africa.

And you do realize that world would end if industrial nations like italy would have economic growth like 3rd world nations like india? That would be the economic dogma of the cancer cell.

 

[UKBengali]

Italy never was on such a low stage that india is now. 100 years ago Italy crushed the ottoman empire in northern africa and had colonies all over africa.

And you do realize that world would end if industrial nations like italy would have economic growth like 3rd world nations like india? That would be the economic dogma of the cancer cell.

Yes it was. Italian living standards were similar to India now. Plenty of Italians went hungry a hundred years ago.

Rich countries cannot grow like developing countries anyway - they have to invent new technology to grow whereas developing countries can use existing technology to raise productivity.

 

[khujliwal]

Plz don‘t say that long horse faced stupid looking man in your avatar is YOU，otherwise this is the most ironic post I have ever seen in my life

I thought it matches hellboy, but horse faced was epic.

 

[MarkusS]

Yes it was. Italian living standards were similar to India now. Plenty of Italians went hungry a hundred years ago.

Rich countries cannot grow like developing countries anyway - they have to invent new technology to grow whereas developing countries can use existing technology to raise productivity.

We had no bubonic plaque in italy 100 years ago. We had no hygienic super failure 100 years ago. Not even in medival times we had such low standards than majority of indians today.

I thought it matches hellboy, but horse faced was epic.
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big words coming from someone who smells bad and has an olivegreenish skin tone by his race.

 

[khujliwal]

pardon me. I **** girls. I don´t need movies. Know thats different in your part of the world. You kill girls when they are born, later you **** other male or in best case rape one of the rare females. Or in some cases you get fucked up from an elephant.

I bet you do girls, hope they are not minor as Burlescony does. Part of Italian style and reflection of its fabric.

 

[DJ Crudept]

We had no bubonic plaque in italy 100 years ago. We had no hygienic super failure 100 years ago. Not even in medival times we had such low standards than majority of indians today.




big words coming from someone who smells bad and has an olivegreenish skin tone by his race.

Yaar tu bachpan se ChuTiyA hai ya tune koi course kiya hai?

I prefer quality over quanity. In the end what do your people produce? Nothing. A slave army and thats it.

Your people don´t even look attractive.

As for WW II. It depends. In Italy we see it mostly positive. Mussolini even has a memorial in rome.

Top 10 Most Attractive Nationalities
now Tell me Where is Italy ?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Ok six days until the parade...do we have a list of world leaders who are going?

China, India....

Even North Korea declined. LMAO That's the ultimate rebuff.

Thing is the only countries to come China and India both ddi these for different reasons
First China needs Russia's support to hedge against a more powerful/dominant west/U.S, reciprocity since China is also organising its on victory day parade(though its the KMT that should be celebrating if they were stil in Power in China since they were the ones that fought imperial Japan.lol) where its expect Moscow to attend and obtain more leverage in its dealings with the U.S. So for the Chinese its more for strategic reasons.

India on othe other hand, will participate because it still wants to show moscow that it's still a loyal/trusted partner(even though it has no issues/beef with the U.S/west and has been moving closer and closer to the U.S/west/Japan since they all have much more common interests than India does with Russia) which will be necessary to convince moscow to transfer India more tech (FGFA, stealth fighter 'JV' projects, nuclear submarine etc) so that Russia can remain a partner India can trust. Though to be honest, as time goes by these coming decades, India and Russia will have even more less in common(interest wise), since India has no issues with the U.S/West, contrary to Russia.

So i see China and Russia getting even more closer with time(not that they love each other, not at all) forming a loose alliance mainly for strategic reason, while Russia's India relationship will be mainly limited to a military buyer-seller one(thats until India becomes self sufficient in its defence needs, in which case Moscow will lose all leverage it has on India and they will have NOTHING AT ALL IN COMMON interest wise)

Coming decades will be intersting.

 

[American College Student]

Russia wants Chinese support to balance against the US. However Russia is not really against a potential Japanese remilitarization. China is hostile because japan as a pro-US bulwark and not because of any Japanese ambition to reestablish its independent power.

 

[Transhumanist]

Russia wants Chinese support to balance against the US. However Russia is not really against a potential Japanese remilitarization. China is hostile because japan as a pro-US bulwark and not because of any Japanese ambition to reestablish its independent power.

Isn't Russia equally adverse to Japan's rearmament for the same reason China is; that is further supports the US military's ability to counter both of them? If I'm not mistaken, one of Japan's military items - the Hibiki Class vessel, was created so Japan could track Russian submarines in their bastions in the Sea of Okhotsk on behalf of the US Navy, whose own assets couldn't bear the risk of operating that far from their bases in Russian territory. Japan and the US joint produce many other systems for the same reason. SM-6 and SM-3 to counter regional missile threats, PAC-3 for smaller system, towed sonars and submarine detection systems as a counter too.

You can find a write-up of the Hibiki class and its support for the US military on the Japanese Defense Forces Thread in the China & East Asia section; I can't yet post the link.

Japan rearming increases the threat to China and Russia. Japanese forces support their US counterparts, as per their recent military-to-military and joint-operational guidelines. Japan's investment in ABM systems supports forward deployed US THAAD, SM-3 and AEGIS Ashore to limit Russia strategic missiles and Chinese regional one's. Japan's investment in destroyer, submarine and frigate designs and procurement lessens the burden on the US in patrolling and securing regional waterways by allowing for more patrol by both as one doesn't need to overtax itself. Japanese investments in interceptors and fighter aircraft, plus offensive weapons further supports the US' ability to contain China and dissuade Russia or counter Russian strategic overflights of the Western US. This changes only when Japan and the US decouple their defense cooperation, but with recent trends in the region this doesn't seem too likely anytime soon.

Russia is just as adverse to Japanese rearmament as China is due to Japan's support for the US in the region.

 

[American College Student]

Russia is adverse to Japanese strength being used as a pro-US bulwark. It is not adverse to japan becoming a military power like it was from 1868 to 1945.

 

[TaiShang]