Japanese official warns that South China Sea activities may be precursor to ADIZ

[oproh]

The only thing japanese can do is to watch from their tiny islands while China is developing the SCS islands.

 

[xunzi]

My friend, there is no need to show off , trust me, your island genesis programs are really mediocre compared to Japan's history and large scale ability in constructing islands. In fact I've made a thread on this a whiles back:

Japanese Island Genesis Methodology: From Reclamation to Urban Development


The point i'm trying to make? Japanese island genesis close to SCS. Afterall, our vast maritime domain brings us close to the region.......

Give me a break man. Your artificial islands are build RIGHT NEXT to your coast and it is smaller than the one we build. What takes you decades to do, we do so in a few years. Talking about a midget trying to act tough against a big bear. LOL

 

[cnleio]

My friend, there is no need to show off , trust me, your island genesis programs are really mediocre compared to Japan's history and large scale ability in constructing islands. In fact I've made a thread on this a whiles back:

Japanese Island Genesis Methodology: From Reclamation to Urban Development


The point i'm trying to make? Japanese island genesis close to SCS. Afterall, our vast maritime domain brings us close to the region.......

My firend, Japan is a export economy country with limited resources ... not like U.S, Russia, China has bigger lands & resources, it means a double edged sword for Japan will hurt ur ppl badly i do think the history had taught us many times, some conflict with bigger continental nation indeed not good for a export economy small nation that can't change the result.

 

[70U63]

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But VN and PH member pretend they didn't know about this.

LOL ... my friend, not matter whether China building those artificial islands ... our neighbors like Vietnam, Philippines already built their own islands in SCS years ago ... Compared with them China is the last one building islands but also the biggest one, they complain for China coz they lack skills & money to build bigger islands as same as what Chinese building in SCS. Just as i said, China doing what others already did in SCS, we r not the FIRST in this region but China doing the BEST.

'Made in China' means more efficient in SCS
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[cnleio]

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But VN and PH member pretend they didn't know about this.

LOL ... some runways in SCS built by them, they just pretend to don't know.

 

[Aepsilons]

My firend, Japan is a export economy country with limited resources ... not like U.S, Russia, China has bigger lands & resources, it means a double edged sword for Japan will hurt ur ppl badly i do think the history had taught us many times, some conflict with bigger continental nation indeed not good for a export economy small nation that can't change the result.

Japan is an export economy, however, Japan is also a highly and dynamically inclined constructive society. We Japanese are naturally and innately imbued with 'Ikigai' (meaning pleasure of doing) when we build and create new things. This is why we were able to build such structure back in the 1990s, in such grand and epic scale:

In fact there are now talks of doing the same in islands close to Taiwan. China's island genesis may be used as catalyst for Japan to build large islands very close to the Philippines.

 

[cnleio]

Japan is an export economy, however, Japan is also a highly and dynamically inclined constructive society. We Japanese are naturally and innately imbued with 'Ikigai' (meaning pleasure of doing) when we build and create new things. This is why we were able to build such structure back in the 1990s, in such grand and epic scale:

In fact there are now talks of doing the same in islands close to Taiwan. China's island genesis may be used as catalyst for Japan to build large islands very close to the Philippines.

When Japan and China can doing the same thing ... it means who can build the most in a short time, who can win ... my friend. The more efficient side can win the most benefits in this region.

 

[Aepsilons]

When Japan and China can doing the same thing ... it means who can build the most in a short time, who can win ... my friend. The more efficient side can win the most benefits in this region.

Absolutely. And what China is doing is benefitting Japan not because it threatens Japan, but because China's threatening stance enables nations in the region to open up to Japan and satisfy Japanese designs of active role in the region.

Do you know that as we are speaking, Japan is building and constructing the Oyster Bay Naval Base in the Philippines? Do you know that this base, when completed, will be home to forward deployed JMSDF vessels?

Chinese designs truly works to Japanese designs.

New naval base off Philippines’ west coast is military’s ‘top priority’

When Japan and China can doing the same thing ... it means who can build the most in a short time, who can win ... my friend. The more efficient side can win the most benefits in this region.

The benefit of our islands or soon-to-be-completed naval base in the region --- is that it is close to immediate 'friendly' resupply lines. As you may already know, the JMSDF has a immense and vast resupply / auxiliary fleet.

 

[cnleio]

Absolutely. And what China is doing is benefitting Japan not because it threatens Japan, but because China's threatening stance enables nations in the region to open up to Japan and satisfy Japanese designs of active role in the region.

Do you know that as we are speaking, Japan is building and constructing the Oyster Bay Naval Base in the Philippines? Do you know that this base, when completed, will be home to forward deployed JMSDF vessels?

Chinese designs truly works to Japanese designs.

New naval base off Philippines’ west coast is military’s ‘top priority’



The benefit of our islands or soon-to-be-completed naval base in the region --- is that it is close to immediate 'friendly' resupply lines. As you may already know, the JMSDF has a immense and vast resupply / auxiliary fleet.

My friend u agreed me that Japan is a export economy nation, isn't it? Just tell me right now who is Japan's biggest trade partner and ur foreign market ? ... Japan can do this or do that, but money go first ! And i had said, when China and Japan doing the same thing, more efficient & lower cost can win ... although Japan has high-advanced tech and rich treasure compared with other nations in ASEAN region ... but not entirely surpass China yet and Japan export economy for islands is ur weakness, my friend.

 

[Jlaw]

Japan is always a troublemaker in the history.

japan is just trying to build an empire. can't blame them. Blame the weak Chosun ruler and Chinese rulers for the invasion.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

Australia is already watching... Japan and Australia together?

 

[Genesis]

Absolutely. And what China is doing is benefitting Japan not because it threatens Japan, but because China's threatening stance enables nations in the region to open up to Japan and satisfy Japanese designs of active role in the region.

Do you know that as we are speaking, Japan is building and constructing the Oyster Bay Naval Base in the Philippines? Do you know that this base, when completed, will be home to forward deployed JMSDF vessels?

Chinese designs truly works to Japanese designs.

New naval base off Philippines’ west coast is military’s ‘top priority’

Did you know Japan is right next to China, and it doesn't really matter if you are in the Philippines, because you are already in Asia and right next to China. You don't have to pitch a tent in my neighborhood if you live next to me.

As to open up to Japan, a nation of China's size needs the US mentality, us against the world and we come up on top.

Same reason America doesn't care what Russia does. Not really, because the difference in power is too great.

China Japan not yet like that, but soon it will. Even today, it's not that close.

The benefit of our islands or soon-to-be-completed naval base in the region --- is that it is close to immediate 'friendly' resupply lines. As you may already know, the JMSDF has a immense and vast resupply / auxiliary fleet.

Japan has 5 such vessels. Smaller in size too. Not exactly vast or immense. China has 15, and the US has about 30, that's vast.

 

[Zsari]

A top defense official has warned that China may be creating artificial islands in the disputed South China Sea as a forerunner to declaring an air defense identification zone (ADIZ) over the waters.
“China is building islands in the South China Sea on which to put radar and air defense missiles,” Masanori Nishi, a policy adviser to Defense Minister Gen Nakatani, said in an opinion piece published Monday in Defense News, a U.S. weekly publication.

The initiative “might be for a future ADIZ announcement in the South China Sea,” said Nishi, who took up his current post in October after resigning as vice defense minister, the top bureaucrat in the Defense Ministry.

Nishi also suggested China would seek to learn “lessons” from its establishment of an ADIZ over the East China Sea in 2013. That zone overlaps with Japanese airspace over the Senkaku Islands, which are administered by Japan but claimed by China and Taiwan. Beijing recently failed to spot a U.S. bomber flying through a blind spot in the zone, Nishi said.

What China will do next is “beyond our imagination” as it continues to test boundaries, Nishi said.

“In this escalating game, we must be vigilant,” he said, referring to the importance of cooperation by Tokyo, Washington and other allies over the South China Sea issue.

Japan, the U.S. and other nations have blasted China for constructing various large-scale facilities on the reclaimed islands, including at least two airstrips in the disputed Spratly islets while ignoring objections by other claimants.

China’s November 2013 declaration of an ADIZ over the East China Sea drew sharp criticism from Japan and the U.S. The zone’s demarcation overlaps those declared by Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, and came without any prior consultation with relevant countries.

Any nation can set up an ADIZ outside its territorial airspace as a defense perimeter to give the country more time to respond to incursions by potentially hostile aircraft.

Also Monday, the U.S. Pacific Fleet commander warned of a possible arms race in the South China Sea that could engulf the region, as nations become increasingly tempted to use military force to settle territorial spats instead of international law.

Adm. Scott Swift urged nations, like China, to seek arbitration to settle maritime disputes.

“My concern is that after many decades of peace and prosperity, we may be seeing the leading edge of a return of ‘might makes it right’ to the region,” Swift said in a speech in Hawaii, according to a copy seen by Reuters.

By resorting to military strength to impose territorial claims, nations, including China, risked sparking a military arms race that could engulf the region, he said.

“Claimants and nonclaimants alike are transferring larger shares of national wealth to develop more capable naval forces beyond what is needed merely for self-defense,” Swift said.

Beijing is building seven man-made islands on reefs in the Spratly Islands, including a 3,000-meter-long airstrip on one of the sites, according to satellite imagery of the area.

“Even now, ships and aircraft operating nearby these features, in accordance with international law are subject to superfluous warnings that threaten routine and commercial operations,” Swift said, speaking at the Cooperative Strategy Forum to naval commanders from Japan, the Philippines, Indonesia and other countries.

China claims most of the South China Sea, through which more than $5 trillion in world trade ships every year. Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines and Taiwan have rival claims.

In October, the U.S. guided-missile destroyer Lassen sailed close to one of China’s man-made islands, drawing an angry rebuke from China and a shadowing patrol.

The U.S. Navy is unlikely to carry out another patrol within 12 nautical miles (22 km) of the Chinese-built islands this year as officials had initially suggested, three U.S. defense officials said Monday.

Naval commanders had hoped to carry out another “freedom of navigation” exercise in the region as early as this month as part of a plan to regularly send vessels into the area and exercise what the United States views as its rights under international law, officials have said.

But the Obama administration, which is weighing the risks of raising tensions with Beijing at a time when Washington is focused on the fight against the Islamic State group, has not approved the next such patrol, said the officials, who asked not to be named.

One official said the next U.S. Navy sail-by was likely to come in January, in what would be the second direct challenge to the territorial limits China effectively claims around seven artificial islands in one of the world’s busiest sea lanes.

In a challenge to China’s island-building program, Manila has asked the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague to affirm its right to areas within 200 nautical miles of its coastline, under the terms of a U.N. convention.

“The Arbitration Tribunal’s case between the Philippines and China could become the latest opportunity to demonstrate lawful access to regional prosperity for all nations,” Swift said.

Beijing so far has rejected the court’s jurisdiction and has boycotted the hearing. Rulings are supposed to be binding on its member countries, which include China. But the tribunal has no powers of enforcement and its verdicts have sometimes been ignored.


Japanese official warns that South China Sea activities may be precursor to ADIZ | The Japan Times

What's there to be warned about establishing an ADIZ? There is nothing threatening or ominous about ADIZ as it is nothing but a defense mechanism. China has as much right as the US or Japan in declaring its ADIZ.

 

[rockstar08]

Japan is an export economy, however, Japan is also a highly and dynamically inclined constructive society. We Japanese are naturally and innately imbued with 'Ikigai' (meaning pleasure of doing) when we build and create new things. This is why we were able to build such structure back in the 1990s, in such grand and epic scale:

In fact there are now talks of doing the same in islands close to Taiwan. China's island genesis may be used as catalyst for Japan to build large islands very close to the Philippines.

I must admit that one sexy Looking Island
can i have a tour of this place ? @Nihonjin1051 ?

 

[Aepsilons]

I must admit that one sexy Looking Island
can i have a tour of this place ? @Nihonjin1051 ?

Yes, yes, the islands that the Chinese are making in the SCS is but a fraction of this one particular island we built. Mind you we built dozens of these kinds of island genesis products as well as reclamation.

This is a Chinese-made island:

Ehem.


This is a JAPANESE-MADE Island: