Japan to remove swastikas from maps as western tourists 'think they are Nazi symbols'

[dadeechi]

Hitlers Armies used steel in their tanks, yet steel is not banned, strange isn't it...

That's a ridiculous argument. What next? Hitler wore clothes and ate food?

 

[dadeechi]

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

That's a ridiculous argument. What next? Hitler wore clothes and ate food?

No, the Swastika is considered to be directly linked to the Nazi Party in Europe,
while the cross used is linked to Germany.
Steel, clothes and food is not linked to any political idea.
That is why the Swastika is banned (in Germany) and the cross as well as steel is not.
The cross is still in use by the Luftwaffe.

This isn't about Europe but about Japan. Japanese aren't bringing religious symbols to Europe. Some Jewish tourists in Japan are complaining about Japanese traditions. The average European isn't bothered by presence of religious icons in Japan. Only Jewish people like you are, so don't speak in name of all Europeans. You have the right to whine about it, that's true.

It's unfortunate that Japan made that decision. It's unfortunate that Jewish people stick their nose in everyone's business. At least now the Japanese people will change their views on you and be less pro-Israel maybe. You're only hurting yourself, I don't mind.

You like to brand everyone not sharing Your view as Jewish, don't You.
The original poster said Western Tourists, which You translate to Jewish Tourists.

Any Christian, like me (formally, but not practising) that does not share Your view, you call a Jew.

I think You are just showing Your general racist attitude.

Since You are a well known supporter of ideas associated with the Swastika I am not surprised
you find the decision unfortunate.

Most Swedes will take offense if someone uses a Swastika over here.
I am sure a lot of Swedish Tourists would react if they saw a Swastika in Japan.
What the OP does not say, is what happens when the meaning of the symbol is explained to the tourist.
Still, the Japanese tourist organisations might want to avoid the confusion.

 

[dadeechi]

No, the Swastika is considered to be directly linked to the Nazi Party in Europe,
while the cross used is linked to Germany.
Steel, clothes and food is not linked to any political idea.
That is why the Swastika is banned (in Germany) and the cross as well as steel is not.
The cross is still in use by the Luftwaffe.

And why are Nazi Hitler brands like Luftwaffe and Volkswagen not banned.

You should watch the video that I posted above. Hindus would surely fight tooth and nail on any such bans on Hindu symbols.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

And why are Nazi Hitler brands like Luftwaffe and Volkswagen not banned.

You should watch the video that I posted above. Hindus would surely fight tooth and nail on any such bans on Hindu symbols.

Luftwaffe is not a Nazi Brand. It is "Air Force" in German.
Volkswagen is a car, and not linked to the Nazi Party atrocities. See the discussion on why "steel" is not banned.

Hindus, like the Japanese make their own decisions in their home country.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Anyone here can observe your posts and recognize you have strong Jewish inclination. You can claim you're a Christian all you want, but I'm not buying it. The tourists complaining are Western Jewish tourists. Nobody else gets offended by these symbols. You're right, I don't have favorable views of Jewish people and don't hide it. I don't know what you mean by 'ideas of Swastika'.

I am more anti-Palestinian than pro-Jewish, mainly because I think the Palestinians
commit much more serious crimes vs International Law than the Israelis, even if the end result
is more Palestinian dead.

I am sure You know what I mean.
You contiunously support the same policies vs Jews as our racists support vs refugees.

I think the thread is loving off topic.

 

[dadeechi]

Luftwaffe is not a Nazi Brand. It is "Air Force" in German.
Volkswagen is a car, and not linked to the Nazi Party atrocities. See the discussion on why "steel" is not banned.

Hindus, like the Japanese make their own decisions in their home country.

Luftwaffe was AF of Germany which was used by Hitler's Nazi Germany just like your logic on Swastika.

Both Luftwaffe and swastika predate Hitler's Nazi Germany. So if Swastika is banned why not Luftwaffe?

Below was the Symbol of Volkswagen. This was Hitler pet project - a vision of people's car.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Luftwaffe was AF of Germany which was used by Hitler's Nazi Germany just like your logic on Swastika.

Both Luftwaffe and swastika predate Hitler's Nazi Germany. So if Swastika is banned why not Luftwaffe?

Below was the Symbol of Volkswagen. This was Hitler pet project - a vision of people's car.

Some things become loaded, and others do not. It is not neccessary a logical process.

Hitler choose the Swastika as the symbol of the Nazi Party.

He did not choose "Luftwaffe" as a symbol.
Therefore people are not objecting to the use of "Luftwaffe" for the German Air Force.

If Germany would create a branch of its army called "Waffen-SS"
then certainly there will be objection, because it was a Nazi creation.
SA, Gestapo, koncentrationcamps are other similar loaded words.

Banning VW Beetles, because it was Hitlers Pet project does not make sense,
Designing an affordable car is a good thing.

It really boils down to what people are used to. The Swastika was not well known,
in Europe, so it was easier to create the association.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

I don't have great faith in the west having much intelligence about faith issues. TYT is one of my favorite shows BTW. I'd recommend it to all forum members. It has nothing to do with me having the hots for Anna Kasparian @Rajaraja Chola this one is an epic fail.

 

[Maira La]

Umm...so the Swastika causes confusion...but the rest of the characters don't...LOL!
Glad that was cleared up.

The character that looks like an "o" confuses me

Quite impressed, you Westerners are quick at decoding Japanese and Hebrew! : P
Who would have thought the map would make any sense for a foreign tourist, with or without the swastika!!

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Another sad development.

Japanese have lost the sense of nationalism just like the Germans. Americans have indoctrinated both well.

You aren't reading your history very well.

 

[Nilgiri]

Even in the west, there is large tolerance for Swastika when it predates Nazi usage:

Finnish Airforce parade:

It was a famous aviation related "good luck" symbol in the West before Nazi Germany. You will see many pictures of aviators wearing it. Rudyard Kipling (who hated Indian culture overall) always put a swastik at the start of his books. It was a well known Celtic, Greek, Mesopotamian, African, Mesoamerican symbol.

I'm not even going into Eastern usage of it (since you have all covered it).

....and now we have an Eastern country banning its use because of PC like @Nihonjin1051 said.

Shocking and stupid!

 

[Madali]

I don't get it. What kind of tourist would look at the map and think "wow, lots of nazi centers in this area!"?

Maybe they are changing it because they got a lot of complaints from...neo Nazis. They came all the way to Japan, visited the swastika areas and went, " so where the fck are the Nazi attraction parks?? Al I see are a bunch of temples! I want my money back!"

 

[trident2010]

while India might get away with the same thing.
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How come a westerner decide if we can show swastika in our temples and homes? We do what we are doing for centuries. Swastika is a sacred symbol of 5000 yrs old Hindu religion. West should learn about it and understand that another westerner used our symbol for its evil cause. Hindus don't eat beef and Muslims pork so why don't western hotels remove it from their menu? It is grossly offensive to more than 30% of earth's population. Height of hypocrisy. But here Japan is in fault. They should not change their culture just because of western tourists. Freedom of religion is basic right and I draw swastika at my home and out side home during festival here in UK. If someone has any problem with it read something about Hindu religion Om and swastika symbol are most sacred of all.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

How come a westerner decide if we can show swastika in our temples and homes? We do what we are doing for centuries. Swastika is a sacred symbol of 5000 yrs old Hindu religion. West should learn about it and understand that another westerner used our symbol for its evil cause. Hindus don't eat beef and Muslims pork so why don't western hotels remove it from their menu? It is grossly offensive to more than 30% of earth's population. Height of hypocrisy. But here Japan is in fault. They should not change their culture just because of western tourists. Freedom of religion is basic right and I draw swastika at my home and out side home during festival here in UK. If someone has any problem with it read something about Hindu religion Om and swastika symbol are most sacred of all.

It's been used by native Americans too...long before Hitler.

Honestly I don't think the average American cares..unless maybe they are Jewish.