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China does what we do since the 60th. I fid it annoying that China only copy old technology. Why build a primitive small space station that is smaller than the old Mir? Why only a lame moon rover that only worked a few days?

NASA has rovers on Mars. Our very own ESA has a probe on a comet and on Titan. What China does is a waste of rescources. You should join us in deep space exploration.

Look at Orion. That spaceship will bring us to Mars. NASA builds the crew module. We europeans construct the service module and propulsion. Imagine China would follow us. We could achive all so much more.

Join us so we could all walk here:

Thats sunset at Mt. Sharp:

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Don´t reinvent the wheel. Start to join us in progress.

Excuse me, but were you born yesterday? China has been banned from joining ISS so what bullsh!t are you talking about cooperation? This leaves China no other choice but to make our own space station. Despite being smaller than ISS because of the smaller budget compared to US/JP/EU total budget, it shows China has the capability to make our own one. Same goes with Galileo project, China contributed financially but got stabbed in the back and we created Beidou.
 
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Excuse me, but were you born yesterday? China has been banned from joining ISS so what bullsh!t are you talking about cooperation? This leaves China no other choice but to make our own space station. Despite being smaller than ISS because of the smaller budget compared to US/JP/EU total budget, it shows China has the capability to make our own one. Same goes with Galileo project, China contributed financially but got stabbed in the back and we created Beidou.

Don´t you agree that this is technological nonsense? Politics aside? As for ISS, i might remember you that the EU did not ban China from participation. USA voted against it and since all members must agree the plan failed. The Eu has no problems to cooperate with China. Remember we provided the guidance service to your moon lander.

But i would like to have an opinion from a chinese person. You know the EU plans a mission to Europa. Europa is a moon of jupiter and the most likely place to harbor life. Europa is one of the greatest mysteries in our solar system and one of the top targets for future missions. So far only the EU has a mission running. NASA still plans its own. The Eu currently plans to do its Europa mission alone but said its still open for partners. Don´t you agree that it would be a much greater project for china to be a partner in our Europa mission than this space station?
 
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China does what we do since the 60th. I fid it annoying that China only copy old technology. Why build a primitive small space station that is smaller than the old Mir? Why only a lame moon rover that only worked a few days?

NASA has rovers on Mars. Our very own ESA has a probe on a comet and on Titan. What China does is a waste of rescources. You should join us in deep space exploration.

Look at Orion. That spaceship will bring us to Mars. NASA builds the crew module. We europeans construct the service module and propulsion. Imagine China would follow us. We could achive all so much more.

Join us so we could all walk here:

Thats sunset at Mt. Sharp:

8z4het.jpg


Don´t reinvent the wheel. Start to join us in progress.

China has already sent its astronaut to the space since 11 years ago, while the EU is still blank in this area.

And stop sucking the US achievement, just try to do something on your own.
 
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Don´t you agree that this is technological nonsense? Politics aside? As for ISS, i might remember you that the EU did not ban China from participation. USA voted against it and since all members must agree the plan failed. The Eu has no problems to cooperate with China. Remember we provided the guidance service to your moon lander.

But i would like to have an opinion from a chinese person. You know the EU plans a mission to Europa. Europa is a moon of jupiter and the most likely place to harbor life. Europa is one of the greatest mysteries in our solar system and one of the top targets for future missions. So far only the EU has a mission running. NASA still plans its own. The Eu currently plans to do its Europa mission alone but said its still open for partners. Don´t you agree that it would be a much greater project for china to be a partner in our Europa mission than this space station?

Here you said it yourself as well US banned China from joining ISS ( i never said EU ). So why are you talking crap about China making her own "tiny" space station?

As for Europa mission, well if China wants to join and US isn't involved perhaps there's an opportunity for cooperation. But didn't EU backstab China with the Galileo already? That's the reason we have our own Beidou now. Also ask yourself why NASA rather has its own Europa mission and not join forces with ESA.
 
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Here you said it yourself as well US banned China from joining ISS ( i never said EU ). So why are you talking crap about China making her own "tiny" space station?

As for Europa mission, well if China wants to join and US isn't involved perhaps there's an opportunity for cooperation. But didn't EU backstab China with the Galileo already? That's the reason we have our own Beidou now. Also ask yourself why NASA rather has its own Europa mission and not join forces with ESA.

The US will do everything to kill the Galileo project and make sure that the EU remaining dependent to the GPS forever.

These fools are simply too naive and stupid to see the grand picture behind this.
 
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China has already sent its astronaut to the space since 11 years ago, while the EU is still blank in this area.

And stop sucking the US achievement, just try to do something on your own.


So far ESA did much things NASA or anyone else ever did.

We are first who landed on a comet, first who landed on Titan. We are first who send an orbiter to Mercury. Giotto was the first spacecraft that followed a comet. The Ariane V is the worlds most sucessful rocket and has the greatest market share.

And we actually do cooperate with others. Be it americans, russians, chinese and indians as well as japan. The EU is not so ideological narrow minded as the americans. The great target must be Mars and Europa. Not another space station.

Here you said it yourself as well US banned China from joining ISS ( i never said EU ). So why are you talking crap about China making her own "tiny" space station?

As for Europa mission, well if China wants to join and US isn't involved perhaps there's an opportunity for cooperation. But didn't EU backstab China with the Galileo already? That's the reason we have our own Beidou now. Also ask yourself why NASA rather has its own Europa mission and not join forces with ESA.


The EU actually still works with China to bring China into the ISS. Our ESA currently works together with chinese space agency to develop a docking module so chinese spacecrafts can dock.

As for NASA, NASA was partner in our Europa mission but lost the budget. They cancelled their membership in this mission. They have no mission for Europa right now but debate about it in congress.
 
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So far ESA did much things NASA or anyone else ever did.

We are first who landed on a comet, first who landed on Titan. We are first who send an orbiter to Mercury. Giotto was the first spacecraft that followed a comet. The Ariane V is the worlds most sucessful rocket and has the greatest market share.

And we actually do cooperate with others. Be it americans, russians, chinese and indians as well as japan. The EU is not so ideological narrow minded as the americans. The great target must be Mars and Europa. Not another space station.

Still you guys need NASA to babysit you for almost everything.

Same for the Airbus project, the US allowed you guys to have your own airplane was a strategy to consolidate the alliance with the Western Europe to against the threat of the USSR.

However, all the critical technologies such as the turbofan engine still remains firmly controlled by the Anglo-Saxon nations like the US and the UK.

In the eyes of the Anglo-Saxons, there are only the difference between Anglo-Saxons and non-Anglo-Saxons.

You guys (especially the Latin South Europeans) are not well respected by the Anglo-Saxons.
 
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The US will do everything to kill the Galileo project and make sure that the EU remaining dependent to the GPS forever.

These fools are simply too naive and stupid to see the grand picture behind this.

Do educate yourself on the progress of Galileo.
 
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So far ESA did much things NASA or anyone else ever did.

We are first who landed on a comet, first who landed on Titan. We are first who send an orbiter to Mercury. Giotto was the first spacecraft that followed a comet. The Ariane V is the worlds most sucessful rocket and has the greatest market share.

And we actually do cooperate with others. Be it americans, russians, chinese and indians as well as japan. The EU is not so ideological narrow minded as the americans. The great target must be Mars and Europa. Not another space station.




The EU actually still works with China to bring China into the ISS. Our ESA currently works together with chinese space agency to develop a docking module so chinese spacecrafts can dock.

As for NASA, NASA was partner in our Europa mission but lost the budget. They cancelled their membership in this mission. They have no mission for Europa right now but debate about it in congress.
So far ESA did much things NASA or anyone else ever did.

We are first who landed on a comet, first who landed on Titan. We are first who send an orbiter to Mercury. Giotto was the first spacecraft that followed a comet. The Ariane V is the worlds most sucessful rocket and has the greatest market share.

And we actually do cooperate with others. Be it americans, russians, chinese and indians as well as japan. The EU is not so ideological narrow minded as the americans. The great target must be Mars and Europa. Not another space station.




The EU actually still works with China to bring China into the ISS. Our ESA currently works together with chinese space agency to develop a docking module so chinese spacecrafts can dock.

As for NASA, NASA was partner in our Europa mission but lost the budget. They cancelled their membership in this mission. They have no mission for Europa right now but debate about it in congress.

If NASA suddenly wants to joins back with ESA's Europa project who says the Americans won't tell Europeans to ban China from joining it?

You might not see another space station as a great target because EU in cooperation with USA/JP has the ISS. But for China it's a target to achieve so we can do our own research in space. You should blame the American government for their shortsighted political view. I know you want China to join forces because China will contribute financially and lessen the burden of ESA's budget.
 
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If NASA suddenly wants to joins back with ESA's Europa project who says the Americans won't tell Europeans to ban China from joining it?

You might not see another space station as a great target because EU in cooperation with USA/JP has the ISS. But for China it's a target to achieve so we can do our own research in space. You should blame the American government for their shortsighted political view. I know you want China to join forces because China will contribute financially and lessen the burden of ESA's budget.

Why those non-Anglo Europeans always to prove that the US is treating them as the equal partners?

We all know that the US treats any other non-Anglo nations not only as the junior partner, but also as the second class partners.

The US only shares its technology with the UK, but not with other western nations.


You guys are lagging far behind, the coverage of the Europe is still not done yet.

And to make global coverage in mere 5 years is just a wild dream.
 
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