Japan Plans to Defend South Korea

[Aepsilons]

The AEGIS Destroyers or any AEGIS system is only valuable to Japan if they are integrated into a Japanese Air Defense Central Command.

Any war with N. Korea for Japan would be an Air War. Take out N. Korean missiles Japan will escape unscratched, relatively.

In the even of war all S. Korean Military assets will be under the control of the US. So... no such thing as S. Korean AEGIS Destroyers.

Correct, buddy. In event of a war with North Korea, destroying North Korea's Air Force and taking out strategic installations will not be enough. Japan would mobilize the entire Self Defense Force for a massive expeditionary force to unseat Kim's regime in Pyongyang. In that case, you will see a combined military cooperation between the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force, with the Republic of Korea Army, and US Army.

Pyongyang's firing of missiles in direction of Japan would be the last their regime ever did , and doing so would bring Japan's Armed Forces to bear. We have already prepared for such exigencies and rest assured that the Combined Japanese Fleet would eradicate Pyongyang's naval threats. The JMSDF's 2nd and 3rd Escort Fleet would be overkill , but it would eradicate their navy.

The liberation of North Korea would be a main priority for Japan, in such a circumstance. And I have full confidence in our ability to prosecute it successfully.

Us going back and forth isn't very fun, so I'll ask this, Kenji Dorihara, Iwani Matsui, are they not a despicable human beings? Am I wrong to say they don't belong in there, it's not only an insult to China, but also to the Japanese soldiers, who are now being lowered to their level, just by their presence.

You know, i may not agree with Doihara, Matsui and other war criminals being in Yasukuni , because of their crimes against humanity cases. In fact I believe these 14 political criminals should be removed and placed somewhere else. But as for Yasukuni's role as a shrine for soldiers --- i support it.

Gen, my grand uncles are enshrined there, as they died in the war. And yes, i have been to Yasukuni plenty of times. And I will continue to visit Yasukuni , for personal and filial reasons.

 

[Genesis]

Correct, buddy. In event of a war with North Korea, destroying North Korea's Air Force and taking out strategic installations will not be enough. Japan would mobilize the entire Self Defense Force for a massive expeditionary force to unseat Kim's regime in Pyongyang. In that case, you will see a combined military cooperation between the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force, with the Republic of Korea Army, and US Army.

Pyongyang's firing of missiles in direction of Japan would be the last their regime ever did , and doing so would bring Japan's Armed Forces to bear. We have already prepared for such exigencies and rest assured that the Combined Japanese Fleet would eradicate Pyongyang's naval threats. The JMSDF's 2nd and 3rd Escort Fleet would be overkill , but it would eradicate their navy.

The liberation of North Korea would be a main priority for Japan, in such a circumstance. And I have full confidence in our ability to prosecute it successfully.

If anybody is taking NK, it's us. We supported that Kim bastard for decades, it's about time we reap that benefit. NK is the key for China in East Asia, it's our ticket to force America out of East Asia, at least South Korea.

There are other benefits, but I won't go into it here.

You know, i may not agree with Doihara, Matsui and other war criminals being in Yasukuni , because of their crimes against humanity cases. In fact I believe these 14 political criminals should be removed and placed somewhere else. But as for Yasukuni's role as a shrine for soldiers --- i support it.

Gen, my grand uncles are enshrined there, as they died in the war. And yes, i have been to Yasukuni plenty of times. And I will continue to visit Yasukuni , for personal and filial reasons.

I agree common soldiers are fine, some say they had a choice, those people are wrong. I too support remembering the common soldiers.

However, we cannot gloss over the fact that the war criminals are there, because they are there. Intentional or not Abe didn't distance himself from those facts.

Now it be different if the visits are considered acceptable by everyone, even if just in Japan, and that a visit to the shrine generally means honouring the soldiers. We must remember the emperor himself doesn't visit the shrine, so either he's wrong, or Abe's wrong.

Which means, Abe himself knows full well what he's doing when he did it, it's not like he was caught with his pants down, he took off his pants, and proceeded to stick it straight up, where the sun don't shine.

 

[Taygibay]

I'm just wondering what the Koreans will think about this, and hence I said should Germany also remember that France and Russia was once part of it, as is Austria and a bunch of other small nations.

By that metric buddy, France once included all of Europe almost to Moscow. At least make your comparisons whole?
I understand your point but remember this in asking Nihonjin to show restraint : France and Germany have made peace over WWII and Nazism faster than pretty much any other such pair in history to found Europe.

Your country is still bickering ( albeit for good reasons that I understand and that Nihonjin acknowledged )
over the same WWII?

Just sayin', no disrespect intended if you didn't mean any yourself, Tay.

 

[luoyue]

We also held Korea and Vietnam, and Mongolia,

Is this dream of China ?

 

[mike2000]

The thing with South Asia is different. Pakistan and India are at similar development stages, so while India is bigger, it is not more developed. Both Korea and Japan are developed, no developed country has ever been attacked.

Besides that, the Indian attitude is lacking in China is also for the same reason, our Indian friends here can be dismissive towards Pakistan, but China cannot do the same with Japan or Korea as they are both in the developed world and Japan even in the G7.

The China-Japan-South Korea dynamic is very different to the Pakistan-India dynamic.


Also letting things go, I have said it a hundred times, Japan never let it go. Abe blatantly spoke in favor of revisionism, Japanese right wing wants to re-militarize, which is fine in itself, but they want to deny war crimes, and putting war criminals into shrines that the PM visits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/03/opinion/mr-abes-dangerous-revisionism.html?_r=0

This is like Himmler is put into a temple and Merkel goes to visit, which they actually did do something similar. That Kenji Doihara belongs in the depth of hell and yet he's honored in a shrine.

Kenji Doihara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's easy to look at this as China and Korea needs to move on, but when a nation constantly brings up the issues of war crimes, revisionism, and even honoring criminals, who's really not moved on.

Its true Japan has to also show sincere remorse/apologise for its past actions like Germany did in Europe. However, Chinese and S. Koreans also need to grow up, and stop using this for their own political objectives and always making a huge deal out of it.

By the way my analysis/compaison between Pakistan and India similar tKorea and Japan holds true, same as China-Vietnam relation compared to Korea and Japan. Its a love-hate relationship, since Korea hasnt gotten over being the little brother/under Japan in history, just like Vietnam hasnt gotten over being colonised/ruled/under Chinas influence for so long. So both situations gave rise to these two nations both admiring and resenting their former colonial masters/big neighbour. It shouldnt always be the case, in this regard, its up to the big brother country(in this case China and Japan) to make move/take the initiative to lure their neighbours towards them and allay their fears. Hopefuly we will see this soon in Asia.
its rather unfortunate for S.Korea though, since had they been say in south Asia, then they will have certainly been the regional powerhouse/leader in that region, instead they are sandwiched between two big powers/countries(2nd and 3rd largest economy in the world), plus the worlds only superpower hovering over the region. not an easy region to be in for Seoul.

An illustration of this strange and obsessive emotional relationship:

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Sums it up pretty well.

 

[sicsheep]

If anybody is taking NK, it's us. We supported that Kim bastard for decades, it's about time we reap that benefit. NK is the key for China in East Asia, it's our ticket to force America out of East Asia, at least South Korea.

There are other benefits, but I won't go into it here.



I agree common soldiers are fine, some say they had a choice, those people are wrong. I too support remembering the common soldiers.

However, we cannot gloss over the fact that the war criminals are there, because they are there. Intentional or not Abe didn't distance himself from those facts.

Now it be different if the visits are considered acceptable by everyone, even if just in Japan, and that a visit to the shrine generally means honouring the soldiers. We must remember the emperor himself doesn't visit the shrine, so either he's wrong, or Abe's wrong.

Which means, Abe himself knows full well what he's doing when he did it, it's not like he was caught with his pants down, he took off his pants, and proceeded to stick it straight up, where the sun don't shine.

Exactly, if China and S.K stop the food aid, the DPRK would lose their fighting strength in matter of months. we will see how Abe can play the NK card then.

The emperor doesn't need to visit the shrine because he doesn't need any votes to be Emperor, Abe needs the right wing votes to be PM. while promising everyone else improvement to the economy.

 

[TheTruth]

You know, i may not agree with Doihara, Matsui and other war criminals being in Yasukuni , because of their crimes against humanity cases. In fact I believe these 14 political criminals should be removed and placed somewhere else. But as for Yasukuni's role as a shrine for soldiers --- i support it.

Gen, my grand uncles are enshrined there, as they died in the war. And yes, i have been to Yasukuni plenty of times. And I will continue to visit Yasukuni , for personal and filial reasons.

Not even the Emperor has visited since war criminals were enshrined, surely he has relatives there too.

 

[Nan Yang]

Correct, buddy. In event of a war with North Korea, destroying North Korea's Air Force and taking out strategic installations will not be enough. Japan would mobilize the entire Self Defense Force for a massive expeditionary force to unseat Kim's regime in Pyongyang. In that case, you will see a combined military cooperation between the Japanese Ground Self Defense Force, with the Republic of Korea Army, and US Army.

Pyongyang's firing of missiles in direction of Japan would be the last their regime ever did , and doing so would bring Japan's Armed Forces to bear. We have already prepared for such exigencies and rest assured that the Combined Japanese Fleet would eradicate Pyongyang's naval threats. The JMSDF's 2nd and 3rd Escort Fleet would be overkill , but it would eradicate their navy.

The liberation of North Korea would be a main priority for Japan, in such a circumstance. And I have full confidence in our ability to prosecute it successfully.

He he he. How can Japan defend Korea if Korea do not even allow Japanese Soldiers to step inside Korea.

 

[Edison Chen]

Lol take care of yourself first

 

[Aepsilons]

Not even the Emperor has visited since war criminals were enshrined, surely he has relatives there too.

The Emperor is above politics. His Imperial Majesty does not involve himself with such, politically sensitive areas. He follows the same policy as the late Showa Emperor.

 

[TheTruth]

The Emperor is above politics. His Imperial Majesty does not involve himself with such, politically sensitive areas. He follows the same policy as the late Showa Emperor.

But that implies the enshrinement of criminals politicized the Yasukuni shrine. In effect profaning it.

 

[Ind4Ever]

The time is nigh.



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NOW add Singapore and India into the mix

 

[Aepsilons]

But that implies the enshrinement of criminals politicized the Yasukuni shrine. In effect profaning it.

You are correct. However, majority of Japanese who visit Yasukuni do so because they actually have relatives who are enshrined there. The Uyoku Dantai (right wing extremists) that go there are doing so just for attention purposes. And they are not taken seriously by average Japanese, who actually visit the shrine solemnly.

Anyways, let's get back to the subject matter. Thanks.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Will japan actually participate in Korean War 2? Japan sat out the first one, and noone knows what will happen if Japan approaches the Yalu river. Might cause China to intervine as no Chinese will like to see Japan having any signifant political influence over mainland Asia again.

Simply put I don't think Japan has the political influence to arm a million man army to take over North Korea. The Arm force of Japan is too small to actually militarly occupy North Korea.

If Korea War 2 happens, it will definitely be bloody and nuclear. It will be China and USA who decides how to carve up NK.

 

[Aepsilons]

Will japan actually participate in Korean War 2? Japan sat out the first one, and noone knows what will happen if Japan approaches the Yalu river. Might cause China to intervine as no Chinese will like to see Japan having any signifant political influence over mainland Asia again.

Will Japan intervene? Yes, she will. Full extent remains to be seen and depends on whether or not North Korea does anything provocative.