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Japan, Philippines to Combat China’s Assertive Stance at Sea

Sounds like invasion to neighbor country...
Pretend to be a victim of aggression,speak like an aggressor
United we stand, divided we fall. All ASEAN nations (or at least all sub-Mekong nations) should stand together to become bigger and stronger to counter all threat :pop:
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Why no one was/is alarmed enough to build a peer navy to the USN ? Because despite any hard feelings these countries may have for the US, countries the world over know that the presence of the USN, particularly a carrier fleet, is a good thing for any troubled region. You may not like US as the self appointed "world's policeman" but you sure are damn glad that we are there when there are problems in your backyard. I do not mean 'you' as in China. So in a manner of perspective, the USN is the world's navy.

So who is/are going to spend vital national resources just to try to be a peer to the USN ? Of all the major powers in the world, only Russia and China will attempt and not likely the Russians, not even in our great grandchildren's lifetime. That leave China as the most likely aspirant challenger to the USN.

I said 'aspirant'...

(of a person) having ambitions to achieve something, typically to follow a particular career.

Ambition is not a guarantor of success. The driver, may be, but not guarantor. People casually say 'decades' as if time is on China's side that the PLAN, or whoever is the designated successor, will be a peer to the USN, and that the US and her navy will remain static for China's benefits. But the reality is that even if the American economy grows half as much as China's over the next hundred yrs, a wildly optimistic projection for China, the USN will continue to maintain a decisive technological edge over the PLAN in that hundred yrs time span.

If in 'a true opponent' you mean the POSSIBILITY of anyone else besides China, you are engaging in wishful thinking. By the time the PLAN's sailors mastered carrier fleet operations, not just in training, but in deployment to any part of the world under any sea condition to face uncertain challenges that taxes their intellect, endurance in terms of human and hardware, stresses of environmental and political natures, and return to home ports, the USN will have relegated the aircraft carrier to secondary threat status.

Despite being Air Force, I am willing to go on a limb and say that no 'true opponent' will rise to be a peer to the USN for at least one hundred yrs. An opponent to the USN implies that there are enough countries in the world hostile to the US that many of them will attempt to have their navies be a peer to the USN. Are you seeing that today, not just in terms of ideological/political differences but couple them with sufficient national resources to do so ? No, there are none, and believe it or not, no one want to. No one is throwing up his hands and give up. They do not believe an American President is going to wake up one day, throw a dart at the world map, and send a USN carrier fleet to that country's shore and invade for oil and women. No one throw up his hands and give up because they believe the USN is the world's navy, just like no one is going to petition for an alternative police force when the current shire-reeve is doing just fine.

But look at the alarm the PLAN's modernization and aggressive behaviors raises among China's neighbors today.

amerika, just like all other empires throughout history will be doomed by its own arrogance. Technologically we are superior, but that will only get you so far. The dollar will crash and will not be the world's currency forever. Sooner or later we're also going to have to address that $17 trillion debt which means we won't have $650 billion to fund bases abroad and splurge on shiny toys nobody needs. China would be dumb to get into an arms race with us. Just continue developing and building their economy, making friends all over the world and watch the empire stretch itself trying to be the 'world's policeman'.
 
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Sorry, I don't want to contradict you and comment, your comments are always funny, can make me laugh, your comments for you, in most time, no problem for me.

Beside your comments, for me, you to me can attract my interest is your age, mind to tell me? :-), Thank you in advance.
I said many time that Im over 30 .
 
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I hope in the future Turkey can take a part of the burden in protecting our allies like Japan in the future. That is why Turkey should develop global reach to pound China when they start a war with Japan. I think this will happen sooner or later since they can't compete with Japan and get more desperate with the day. Probably they would want to start a war when Chinese economy stands on brink of collapse.
 
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United we stand, divided we fall. All ASEAN nations (or at least all sub-Mekong nations) should stand together to become bigger and stronger to counter all threat :pop:
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United by Vietnamese aggression?I think the Cambodians,Thais and other peace-loving southeast Asians may disagree
 
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United by Vietnamese aggression?I think the Cambodians,Thais and other peace-loving southeast Asians may disagree
Wrong, Thai general support VN idea despite that we had some border conflict

Thai General: China’s nine-dash line groundless
19:18 | 18/06/2014
VGP - China’s nine-dash line is legally groundless, Major General Surasit Thanadtang from Thailand’s National Defense Studies Institute told the Viet Nam News Agency in a recent interview.



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Major-General Surasit Thanadtang

He went on to say that China’s installation of the oil rigHaiyang Shiyou-981 and its aggressive actions in Viet Nam’s exclusive economic zone and continental shelf have only undermined the stability in the region.


The Thai Major General called on relevant parties to respect the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

Countries around the world have voiced no support for China’s aggressive actions in Viet Nam’s waters./.

By Quang Minh

VGP News | Thai General: China’s nine-dash line groundless - Thai General: China’s nine-dash line groundless
Many Camb generals r VNese or pro-VN coz we set up pro-VN govt. in Camb since 1979, so they will agree ,too
 
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Because those who don`t support are killed by VN?

Wrong, Thai general support VN idea despite that we had some border conflict


Many Camb generals r VNese or pro-VN coz we set up pro-VN govt. in Camb since 1979, so they will agree ,too
 
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Because those who don`t support are killed by VN?
Who dont support r stupid, they dont need to live coz they will be killed by China, too. Just look how China bully poor Phil fishermen and learn the lesson.
 
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Wrong, Thai general support VN idea despite that we had some border conflict


Many Camb generals r VNese or pro-VN coz we set up pro-VN govt. in Camb since 1979, so they will agree ,too
I'm talking about this
In 1979, we continued our expansion to Laos-Camb-Thai and only failed to control Thai (due to US supported Thai-China to stop VN ) when successfully control Laos-Camb's military (thats why we can log wood in Laos-Camb and become a big wood exporter).
Do the Laos,Cambodians and Thais want to be controlled by Vietnamese?
 
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We could afford new gears, but the issue of corruption and excessive politics had always been the problem.

Every country suffers the same issue. Don't worry. Have your belief.
The issue in China even much bigger than yours.
 
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amerika, just like all other empires throughout history will be doomed by its own arrogance. Technologically we are superior, but that will only get you so far. The dollar will crash and will not be the world's currency forever. Sooner or later we're also going to have to address that $17 trillion debt which means we won't have $650 billion to fund bases abroad and splurge on shiny toys nobody needs. China would be dumb to get into an arms race with us. Just continue developing and building their economy, making friends all over the world and watch the empire stretch itself trying to be the 'world's policeman'.
China is ALREADY in arms race against US with all those shiny toys the PLA want and bought, from jet fighters to ships to rifles, that 'nobody needs'. :lol:
 
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I'm talking about this
In 1979, we continued our expansion to Laos-Camb-Thai and only failed to control Thai (due to US supported Thai-China to stop VN ) when successfully control Laos-Camb's military (thats why we can log wood in Laos-Camb and become a big wood exporter).
Do the Laos,Cambodians and Thais want to be controlled by Vietnamese?

I think "we" here for Chinese is not included Manchu people.
 
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I'm talking about this
In 1979, we continued our expansion to Laos-Camb-Thai and only failed to control Thai (due to US supported Thai-China to stop VN ) when successfully control Laos-Camb's military (thats why we can log wood in Laos-Camb and become a big wood exporter).
Do the Laos,Cambodians and Thais want to be controlled by Vietnamese?
We control and annex Champa & Khmer's lands, they dont want, but they dont do bombing suicide like Uighur people in China coz we r very nice and love peace people. We dont try to kill all our minority ethnics.

Unlike China who love to bully small countries, we only want a strong & united region , we bring peace & benefit to every one.Thats why even Thai general also support VN against big bad China :bunny:
 
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