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Japan, Philippines to Combat China’s Assertive Stance at Sea

US will not collapse of course.
But the rich guys will be richer, but majority will get poor.
And poor people will rely more on the low cost China products..
If u hope to beat US with low cost product, then u will never win ,too.

Nowaday, VN's furniture is much cheaper than yours due to labors cost in China is increasing. More and more JP-SK-US technology companies come to VN means our high tech products soon will cheaper than China's ones, too.

Poor China is falling in middle income-trap now and will be left behind soon due to high labours cost :pop:
 
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US start the Iraq war and US cannot just leave it alone!
It`s US responsibility to stop the mad guys from ruining the middle east..

true true. we will see then. don't underestimate a few dozen or so Vietnam anti-ship missiles. just look at Falklands Argentina Super Endendards with 5 Exocets took out two RN Frigates those Exocets were 60's tech.
without U.S and NATO intervention IS will overrun Shia dominated South Iraq.
don't worry we will stop them before they get that far Inshallah.
 
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US start the Iraq war and US cannot just leave it alone!
It`s US responsibility to stop the mad guys from ruining the middle east..

imagine if U.S,Iran,Russia,and China fight together to kill these dogs.

it's like fighting off a invasion of aliens except now we are killing rats.
 
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if you are relying on other countries to build your economy, you will fail..
China has lots of domestics company that can compete with JP, SK.
VN don`t. It is VN that are rely on low labor cost...
The market, basic facility, people are all no match for China, Frankly.

If u hope to beat US with low cost product, then u will never win ,too.

Nowaday, VN's furniture is much cheaper than yours due to labors cost in China is increasing. More and more JP-SK-US technology companies come to VN means our high tech products soon will cheaper than China's ones, too.

Poor China is falling in middle income-trap now and will be left behind soon due to high labours cost :pop:
 
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imagine if U.S,Iran,Russia,and China fight together to kill these dogs.

it's like fighting off a invasion of aliens except now we are killing rats.
Iranian mullahs are part of the problem,the shia millitants are not better than sunni ones
 
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if you are relying on other countries to build your economy, you will fail..
China has lots of domestics company that can compete with JP, SK.
VN don`t. It is VN that are rely on low labor cost...
The market, basic facility, people are all no match for China, Frankly.

China only became strong because of Nixon and Deng and entering WTO don't forget that.
you steal IP and build knock offs and bully and undercut the world market

check out Vietnam

80% of world’s computer chips will be made by Intel Vietnam by 2015: CEO

if Vietnam opens up she'll see more like above from other companies.

Iranian mullahs are part of the problem,the shia millitants are not better than sunni ones

meh, still think a little appeasement is better than nothing.
but the Jews might force our hand to not warm up to one another.
 
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Each country has its own interest
Like US want the oil and China want the contract..
There is no common interest that everyone have.
Now ISIL is ruining the middle east, so some countries will stand up to fight it.
If ISIL is clever enough to follow some strong power, there will be shield from the strong power..
No matter what they do...

imagine if U.S,Iran,Russia,and China fight together to kill these dogs.
it's like fighting off a invasion of aliens except now we are killing rats.
 
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true true. we will see then. don't underestimate a few dozen or so Vietnam anti-ship missiles. just look at Falklands Argentina Super Endendards with 5 Exocets took out two RN Frigates those Exocets were 60's tech.

We must look at each case as it presents itself. The falklands taught the world a great lesson, one carriers are really important for long distance battles, though that's really a WW2 lesson.

two, ships have no real defense against anti ship missiles, so came the next wave of stealth ships. Chinese ships have adapted the stealth principle, and to my understanding this will delay detection and the size of target.

Three, other than the US I don't give anybody else the nod for ability to conduct overseas missions, I even doubt Chinese effectiveness against Vietnam on land.

Against Philippines, I have severe doubt, due to our transport ability, lack of helicopters, and LHD, and operational carriers and refuel planes, as well as a lack of stealth fighters and bombers.

But let me make this clear, what I doubt isn't our victory or even our loses, but we can further decrease those loses to an absolute minimal before we make this move.


But this needs to be noted, China is making massive inroads into these problems, I won't bore you with the details, but we are fixing them.
 
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Please update us on these proceedings, pareng @Zero_wing .

No news yet i would love tell you guys but now no news on the pick for the Frigate project but the navy will use whatever systems, weapons, equipment that frigate project will use which is a different bid from the frigate too
 
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I think it's better we don't fight period.
more pressing problem IS. they are going to spread like cancer if it isn't nipped in the bud soon.
we are pretty much responsible for this mess, but it's truly a global problem now.
 
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I see. they need to act now before it's too late.
should focus on the Navy hard.
U.S could help with the Army and Air Force since you all are fighting terrorists on the Southern Islands.

need to invest at least 10 billion in the Navy over the next 5 years.

Which what we are doing if you check the news
 
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We can test it out plenty against our own systems, it's only against a real major foe can we begin to test them out in earnest.

But US hasn't fought a major sea battle since WW2 either.

However with your experience and technology to go with training, you would still have a massive edge against us.


Give us sometime, a lot of times, military is all about the cash, especially the exercises, the more cash you have the more waste you can have. How can Vietnam test advanced missiles effectively if they only got a dozen or so.
You cannot use that argument to create a valid comparison between the USN and the PLAN.

- WW II was the first time fleets fought against each other without seeing each other. That is not to say that such engagements will never occur again, no one is that bold in prediction, but that given the high value and capabilities of air power, it is remote that fleets will ever face each other in line-of-sight (LOS) combat, and when one side can wield an aircraft carrier fleet but the other cannot, the probability of such an engagement is even more remote simply because no one is that foolish. Suicidal, perhaps.

- The USN is ten times the expeditionary force of any sea going country. The PLAN is a young navy. Not trying to be insulting but to compare the PLAN against the USN is like comparing a domesticated cat against a wild tiger.

- If the US has not fought a major sea engagement since WW II, it is not for lack of will but simply for lack of peer opponents. Like it or not, not even the Soviet Navy could have taken on the USN back in the Cold War, and the PLAN today is not even half the Soviet Navy then.
 
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Come on, Intel WAS a great company.
But now in smartphone and pad ages, Intel is doing poorly..
Computers is a shrinking market..
And other company moved from China to VN are suffering from lack of water/power, labor strike, rusted government, etc..

China only became strong because of Nixon and Deng and entering WTO don't forget that.
you steal IP and build knock offs and bully and undercut the world market

check out Vietnam

if Vietnam opens up she'll see more like above from other companies.
 
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Come on, Intel WAS a great company.
But now in smartphone and pad ages, Intel is doing poorly..
Computers is a shrinking market..
And other company moved from China to VN are suffering from lack of water/power, labor strike, rusted government, etc..

making billions in profit every year baaaaaad come on man come onnnnn now.

Intel-Profit.jpg



and I'm surprise China hasn't bought AMD and invested billions to compete with Intel.
 
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Right, muslim Extremists will be a big problem in today`s world.
Yet we are still fight each other, leave space for muslim Extremists like IS to spread all over the world..

I think it's better we don't fight period.
more pressing problem IS. they are going to spread like cancer if it isn't nipped in the bud soon.
we are pretty much responsible for this mess, but it's truly a global problem now.
 
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