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ABU DHABI: Japan has offered to help Saudi Arabia build nuclear power stations to free up more oil for exports, Kyodo news agency reported on Sunday, but a visiting Japanese minister said he was not seeking a supply increase now. Trade Minister Toshimitsu Motegi’s visit at the weekend was aimed at securing extra oil from the world’s biggest exporter incase of instability in world supply, Japanese officials had said.

Japan offers to help Saudi Arabia - thenews.com.pk
 
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That is great move. Kingdom should spent more on Production of Green Electricity. I really dont understand that why world is not moving towards Hydrogen based fueled and electric cars.

World is consuming way too much LPG.

Im no scientist its just my opinion.
 
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Japan is asking for emergency oil supply in case of emergencies and disruption in oil supply, and in return they are offering Industrial technologies and Nuclear Technology.

Highly doubtful,

Japan cannot depend on SA for emergency oil supplies since the ever country which would block it's oil supply ( mainly china but theoretically North korea also) would very easily block any emergency supply from SA as it would traverse through reigon where they would be having naval superiority.

This is probably a pure business deal of no greater geopolitical consequences.
 
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Highly doubtful,

Japan cannot depend on SA for emergency oil supplies since the ever country which would block it's oil supply ( mainly china but theoretically North korea also) would very easily block any emergency supply from SA as it would traverse through reigon where they would be having naval superiority.

This is probably a pure business deal of no greater geopolitical consequences.

Yes it is a business deal. Of which we get in return nuclear and industrial texhnologies and home investments.
 
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Yes it is a business deal. Of which we get in return nuclear and industrial texhnologies and home investments.

Which is a very good thing indeed.

That is great move. Kingdom should spent more on Production of Green Electricity. I really dont understand that why world is not moving towards Hydrogen based fueled and electric cars.

World is consuming way too much LPG.

Im no scientist its just my opinion.

It's pretty early here but the focus on sustainable energy has been addressed in the last years and there are a few major ongoing/proposed projects that would make the country less dependent on oil in the future.

Read those articles:

Saudi Arabia reveals plans to be powered entirely by renewable energy | Environment | guardian.co.uk

Saudi Arabia Launches Massive Renewable Program with Hybrid FITs | Renewable Energy News Article

A few extracts:

"While North America continues to dawdle on the road to the renewable revolution, the conservative, oil-rich Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has proposed one of the most sweeping and massive moves to renewable energy on the planet.
"Starting from zero, the Kingdom plans to install a staggering 54,000 MW of renewable-generating capacity during the next two decades."

The objective is to generate one-quarter of the Kingdom's electricity from solar energy alone, while developing a domestic renewable energy industry. The latter is a key part of the program.

While much of the renewable energy trade press has focused on the amount of solar photovoltaic (solar PV) capacity proposed, an even larger amount of Concentrating Solar Power (CSP) is anticipated. The program's initial targets are

CSP: 25,000 MW,
Solar PV: 16,000 MW, and
Wind: 9,000 MW.
Interestingly, the amount of electricity generated by 9,000 MW of wind at moderately windy sites is of the same order of magnitude as the 16,000 MW of solar PV — even in sunny Saudi Arabia."
 
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Japan has offered to help Saudi Arabia build nuclear power stations (Reuters) - Japan has offered to help Saudi Arabia build nuclear power stations to free up more oil for exports, Kyodo news agency reported on Sunday, but a visiting Japanese minister said he was not seeking a supply increase now.

Trade Minister Toshimitsu Motegi's visit at the weekend was aimed at securing extra oil from the world's biggest exporter in case of instability in world supply, Japanese officials had said.

Japan's reliance on oil imports has risen after its own shift from nuclear power after the Fukushima disaster in 2011, but any deal to give Japan priority access to Saudi crude in the event of supply shortages would worry other oil importers.

"It was not that we have asked for any specific request for increase of production or supply. It was just the confirmation of the relationship we have," Motegi told journalists when asked whether he had sought assurances Japan could get more oil in a crisis.

Motegi had offered help building nuclear plants to free more crude for export and to meet rising Saudi demand for electricity, Kyodo news agency said. A Saudi official told Motegi he was hopeful Japanese technology could be used.

Saudi Arabia's plan to build up to 17 gigawatts of nuclear power capacity over the next two decades has offered a possible lifeline to plant builders hit by a lack of demand since the Fukushima disaster.
 
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i think countries like KSA never will have shortage of energy even some day their oil resources come to an end, since the huge potential of solar energy they have..Solar energy shall gain pretty importance in the future..

So these countries must invest and be specialist in solar energy technolgy for the next future..
 
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i think countries like KSA never will have shortage of energy even some day their oil resources come to an end, since the huge potential of solar energy they have..Solar energy shall gain pretty importance in the future..

So these countries must invest and be specialist in solar energy technolgy for the next future..

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you man :yahoo:

Saudis eye solar-power exports to Europe - FT.com

Saudi Arabia Plans $109 Billion Boost for Solar Power - Bloomberg

Ever since the monarchy stopped giving decision making to loyalists and relatives and instead gave it to people with PhDs etc, the country is run like clockwork :police:
 
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February 8, 2013

Japan gives another $3b to Adnoc

Loan aimed at boosting Abu Dhabi company’s upstream business and strengthening relations

Japan will give a $3 billion (Dh11.02 billion) loan to Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (Adnoc) to help boost the oil developer’s upstream business and strengthen bilateral relations, Japan’s trade ministry said on Friday.

The deal, which coincides with the visit this weekend to Saudi Arabia and the UAE by Japanese trade minister Toshimitsu Motegi, is set to be signed on Sunday by the Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC) and Adnoc, the ministry said.

This marks the third loan for Japan after it granted $3 billion each in 2007 and 2010 to boost Adnoc’s oil supply capacity that would ensure stable oil exports to Japan.

The loan is also expected to help Japan win new energy concessions or the renewal of existing concessions in the region, the trade ministry said.

UAE is the No 2 crude oil supplier to Japan after Saudi Arabia and oil imports from UAE accounted for 21.7 per cent of Japan’s total imports last year, averaging 793,000 barrels per day.

The loan is to be extended by JBIC and three private banks, the Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp and Mizuho Corporate Bank, the ministry said.

Japan gives another $3b to Adnoc | GulfNews.com
 
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Fast, fast, fast, Japan! If you don’t want to be the last. :rofl:


KSA - Nuclear and other renewable energy

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http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ink-nuclear-cooperation-pact.html#post2731694

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ink-nuclear-cooperation-pact.html#post2731727

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ink-nuclear-cooperation-pact.html#post2786204

http://www.defence.pk/forums/irania...ill-join-nuclear-arms-race-4.html#post2883413


KSA - Solar energy

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...-solar-next-twenty-centuries.html#post2828933

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/173664-ksa-south-korea-unite-solar-energy.html

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...es-109bn-plan-solar-industry.html#post2939352



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China Takes Lead in Race for Clean Nuclear Power


By Richard Martin
February 1, 2011 | 5:44 pm
Categories: Energy


China has officially announced it will launch a program to develop a thorium-fueled molten-salt nuclear reactor, taking a crucial step towards shifting to nuclear power as a primary energy source.

The project was unveiled at the annual Chinese Academy of Sciences conference in Shanghai last week, and reported in the Wen Hui Bao newspaper (Google English translation here).

If the reactor works as planned, China may fulfill a long-delayed dream of clean nuclear energy. The United States could conceivably become dependent on China for next-generation nuclear technology. At the least, the United States could fall dramatically behind in developing green energy.

“President Obama talked about a Sputnik-type call to action in his SOTU address,” wrote Charles Hart, a a retired semiconductor researcher and frequent commenter on the Energy From Thorium discussion forum. “I think this qualifies.”

While nearly all current nuclear reactors run on uranium, the radioactive element thorium is recognized as a safer, cleaner and more abundant alternative fuel. Thorium is particularly well-suited for use in molten-salt reactors, or MSRs. Nuclear reactions take place inside a fluid core rather than solid fuel rods, and there’s no risk of meltdown.

In addition to their safety, MSRs can consume various nuclear-fuel types, including existing stocks of nuclear waste. Their byproducts are unsuitable for making weapons of any type. They can also operate as breeders, producing more fuel than they consume.

In the 1960s and 70s, the United States carried out extensive research on thorium and MSRs at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. That work was abandoned — partly, believe many, because uranium reactors generated bomb-grade plutonium as a byproduct. Today, with nuclear weapons less in demand and cheap oil’s twilight approaching, several countries — including India, France and Norway — are pursuing thorium-based nuclear-fuel cycles. (The grassroots movement to promote an American thorium power supply was covered in this December 2009 Wired magazine feature.)

China’s new program is the largest national thorium-MSR initiative to date. The People’s Republic had already announced plans to build dozens of new nuclear reactors over the next 20 years, increasing its nuclear power supply 20-fold and weaning itself off coal, of which it’s now one of the world’s largest consumers. Designing a thorium-based molten-salt reactor could place China at the forefront of the race to build environmentally safe, cost-effective and politically palatable reactors.

“We need a better stove that can burn more fuel,” Xu Hongjie, a lead researcher at the Shanghai Institute of Applied Physics, told Wen Hui Bao.

China’s program is headed by Jiang Mianheng, son of the former Chinese president Jiang Zemin. A vice president of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the younger Jiang holds a Ph.D. in electrical engineering from Drexel University. A Chinese delegation headed by Jiang revealed the thorium plans to Oak Ridge scientists during a visit to the national lab last fall.

The official announcement comes as the Obama administration has committed itself to funding R&D for next-generation nuclear technology. The president specifically mentioned Oak Ridge National Laboratory in his State of the Union address Jan. 25, but no government-funded program currently exists to develop thorium as an alternative nuclear fuel.

A Chinese thorium-based nuclear power supply is seen by many nuclear advocates and analysts as a threat to U.S. economic competitiveness. During a presentation at Oak Ridge on Jan. 31, Jim Kennedy, CEO of St. Louis–based Wings Enterprises (which is trying to win approval to start a mine for rare earths and thorium at Pea Ridge, Missouri) portrayed the Chinese thorium development as potentially crippling.

“If we miss the boat on this, how can we possibly compete in the world economy?” Kennedy asked. “What else do we have left to export?”

According to thorium advocates, the United States could find itself 20 years from now importing technology originally developed nearly four decades ago at one of America’s premier national R&D facilities. The alarmist version of China’s next-gen nuclear strategy come down to this: If you like foreign-oil dependency, you’re going to love foreign-nuclear dependency.

“When I heard this, I thought, ‘Oboy, now it’s happened,’” said Kirk Sorensen, chief nuclear technologist at Teledyne Brown Engineering and creator of the Energy From Thorium blog. “Maybe this will get some people’s attention in Washington.”

While the international “Generation IV” nuclear R&D initiative includes a working group on thorium MSRs, China has made clear its intention to go it alone. The Chinese Academy of Sciences announcement explicitly states that the PRC plans to develop and control intellectual property around thorium for its own benefit.

“This will enable China to firmly grasp the lifeline of energy in its own hands,” stated the Wen Hui Bao report.


wired.com

Link wikiped ‘Molten salt reactor’:

Molten salt reactor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of you man :yahoo:

Saudis eye solar-power exports to Europe - FT.com

Saudi Arabia Plans $109 Billion Boost for Solar Power - Bloomberg

Ever since the monarchy stopped giving decision making to loyalists and relatives and instead gave it to people with PhDs etc, the country is run like clockwork :police:

dont be so hopeful akhee !!

europe zone would turn to desert through climate changes in far future according to some rumors and bla...bla..
then investment in camel farms should be more profitable business. :)

but in much more long term all of us will die..then Allah have mercy on all of us.. :)
 
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dont be so hopeful akhee !!

europe zone would turn to desert through climate changes in far future according to some rumors and bla...bla..
then investment in camel farms should be more profitable business. :)

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Really? But of course ! ^^


KSA - Solar-powered hydrogen of world

Saudis Could Export Solar for the Next Twenty Centuries | Green Prophet

Link of study made by the World Academy of Science, Engineering and Technology (PDF)

http://www.waset.org/journals/waset/v57/v57-89.pdf


http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...es-109bn-plan-solar-industry.html#post2939352

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/173664-ksa-south-korea-unite-solar-energy.html


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