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Just some fanboys sketches you thinks j35 will have TVC engine and modified rear fuselage
J-XY - maybe J-35 - next generation carrier-borne fighter
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But it is one side to assume the J-35 will use TVC from a general technical possibility or to draw a conclusion from a more than crude sketch.
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This article surfaced on CJDBY today. A long article, in short it said "to ensure a new generation fighter jet's maiden flight in 2021 according to schedule". and development work by 601 institute.
Suggestion by some posters on CJDBY is that this could be J35 naval fighter jet for PLAN's aircraft carrier.
【奋战“双过半”】 航空工业综合所某新型战机技术基础专项全力以赴保节点
中国航空研究院 今天
综合所某新型战机技术基础专项是针对国家重点型号工程开展的综合性、多专业的正向设计研制任务，该专项综合策划基于MBSE的标准化与“六性”工作，以推动型号标准化和通用质量特性技术应用能力提升。自新冠疫情以来，专项团队在打好疫情攻坚战的同时，科学开展复工复产，以确保新一代战斗机2021年首飞如期实现。
“暂停键”变“快进键”
突如而来的疫情让整个世界似乎按了暂停键，也打破了专项团队的工作计划。按照原计划，专项团队的两个小组——MBSE工作组和测试性工作组都应该在春节后就前往601所开展工作，疫情的到来让原本的出差计划一拖再拖，最终在三月下旬才顺利抵达客户单位。
要“追”才能如期交付。为了追回被延误的时间，团队不惜付出更多的时间和人力成本，派出了比原定多两倍的人员出差，周期也由一周延长超过了一个月。赵中阁是MBSE工作组的一员，作为团队的核心成员，他每天工作12个小时，出差整整一个月，期间就休息了一天。此次任务需要前往沈阳601所和成都29所两个单位出差，因辗转多地，期间不得不做了两次核酸检测，当返回北京后，又进行了必要的居家隔离才得以返岗工作。团队另一成员彭超，春节假期一直滞留在湖北至四月初才返京，刚刚过完十四天隔离期，因工作需要便立刻前往沈阳，在沈阳疫情较严重时也坚守在601所，连着几个月没能见到新婚妻子。测试性工作组的黄翠红，以“997”模式驻扎沈阳连轴转了两个月，耐心带领“徒弟”刘杨，在短时间高强度工作下完成了七个分系统的建模与分析工作，受到客户的认可和好评。“黄姐给我最大的印象就是耐心，无论是对待建模工作还是我提出的问题，她总是细心讲解，这次黄姐带我一起完成的仿真模型，总师单位将其作为样板提供给其他单位学习，我感觉太自豪了。她就是我的师傅，我的榜样。”刘杨如是说。
在两个工作组并联加速工作下，被疫情耽搁的工期被抢了回来，原本被推迟了近三个月的工作，现在基本如期完成。按照这个状态完全能够按期交付，确保型号首飞节点不耽误。
速度要有，质量也要有
虽说是“赶”工期，但质量一点没打折扣。在疫情期间，MBSE工作团队在两个月之内明确了技术路线，开发了能够读取模型的插件，建立了平台系统及模型；MBSE新技术打通了数字化环境下与正向设计的融合，形成型号技术能力储备和支持，为未来型号应用的技术验证和其他相关工作奠定了基础。针对601所飞机测试性建模工作，项目组编制了工作指南、培训材料和应用案例，并通过电话对数十家参研单位开展了测试性建模技术支持和培训。初步完成了整机测试性模型梳理与集成，以及针对液压系统、环控系统等7个分系统开展了测试性建模与分析工作，评估了产品的测试性设计状态，为后续的设备级测试性建模与综合诊断设计奠定了坚实的基础。两个项目组均以高标准、高要求、高效率、高质量完成了阶段性的任务，交付成果受到客户的一致认可。
当前，在疫情反复尚未解除的情况下，专项工作的开展还会遇到一些困难和阻碍，但项目组的成员们以推动航空工业“基础性”和“共用性”能力提升为目标，在做好疫情防控的同时，牢记使命，全力以赴确保年度科研生产任务的完成。
Suggestion by some posters on CJDBY is that this could be J35 naval fighter jet for PLAN's aircraft carrier.
【奋战“双过半”】 航空工业综合所某新型战机技术基础专项全力以赴保节点
中国航空研究院 今天
综合所某新型战机技术基础专项是针对国家重点型号工程开展的综合性、多专业的正向设计研制任务，该专项综合策划基于MBSE的标准化与“六性”工作，以推动型号标准化和通用质量特性技术应用能力提升。自新冠疫情以来，专项团队在打好疫情攻坚战的同时，科学开展复工复产，以确保新一代战斗机2021年首飞如期实现。
“暂停键”变“快进键”
突如而来的疫情让整个世界似乎按了暂停键，也打破了专项团队的工作计划。按照原计划，专项团队的两个小组——MBSE工作组和测试性工作组都应该在春节后就前往601所开展工作，疫情的到来让原本的出差计划一拖再拖，最终在三月下旬才顺利抵达客户单位。
要“追”才能如期交付。为了追回被延误的时间，团队不惜付出更多的时间和人力成本，派出了比原定多两倍的人员出差，周期也由一周延长超过了一个月。赵中阁是MBSE工作组的一员，作为团队的核心成员，他每天工作12个小时，出差整整一个月，期间就休息了一天。此次任务需要前往沈阳601所和成都29所两个单位出差，因辗转多地，期间不得不做了两次核酸检测，当返回北京后，又进行了必要的居家隔离才得以返岗工作。团队另一成员彭超，春节假期一直滞留在湖北至四月初才返京，刚刚过完十四天隔离期，因工作需要便立刻前往沈阳，在沈阳疫情较严重时也坚守在601所，连着几个月没能见到新婚妻子。测试性工作组的黄翠红，以“997”模式驻扎沈阳连轴转了两个月，耐心带领“徒弟”刘杨，在短时间高强度工作下完成了七个分系统的建模与分析工作，受到客户的认可和好评。“黄姐给我最大的印象就是耐心，无论是对待建模工作还是我提出的问题，她总是细心讲解，这次黄姐带我一起完成的仿真模型，总师单位将其作为样板提供给其他单位学习，我感觉太自豪了。她就是我的师傅，我的榜样。”刘杨如是说。
在两个工作组并联加速工作下，被疫情耽搁的工期被抢了回来，原本被推迟了近三个月的工作，现在基本如期完成。按照这个状态完全能够按期交付，确保型号首飞节点不耽误。
速度要有，质量也要有
虽说是“赶”工期，但质量一点没打折扣。在疫情期间，MBSE工作团队在两个月之内明确了技术路线，开发了能够读取模型的插件，建立了平台系统及模型；MBSE新技术打通了数字化环境下与正向设计的融合，形成型号技术能力储备和支持，为未来型号应用的技术验证和其他相关工作奠定了基础。针对601所飞机测试性建模工作，项目组编制了工作指南、培训材料和应用案例，并通过电话对数十家参研单位开展了测试性建模技术支持和培训。初步完成了整机测试性模型梳理与集成，以及针对液压系统、环控系统等7个分系统开展了测试性建模与分析工作，评估了产品的测试性设计状态，为后续的设备级测试性建模与综合诊断设计奠定了坚实的基础。两个项目组均以高标准、高要求、高效率、高质量完成了阶段性的任务，交付成果受到客户的一致认可。
当前，在疫情反复尚未解除的情况下，专项工作的开展还会遇到一些困难和阻碍，但项目组的成员们以推动航空工业“基础性”和“共用性”能力提升为目标，在做好疫情防控的同时，牢记使命，全力以赴确保年度科研生产任务的完成。
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Really? First flight in 2021?
Looking forward to it.
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Let me verify if I can find the post on their official website.
It is indeed posted by their offical WeChat account.
The original post can be found here: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/4nnONJSSL1vBJOTS-9kFIQ
So looks very reliable!
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News report from Global Times
China's new-generation fighter jet scheduled to make maiden flight in 2021: report
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times
Published: 2020/6/30 18:08:39
A Chinese FC-31 stealth fighter has its test flight ahead of the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province, Nov 10, 2014. Photo: Xinhua
China's new-generation fighter jet is scheduled to make its maiden flight in 2021, an aviation industry report revealed on Monday. Analysts speculate that it will be China's new aircraft carrier-based fighter jet.
A team at China Aero-Polytechnology Establishment under the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) has resumed work while fighting the COVID-19 epidemic with the aim of supporting the scheduled maiden flight of a new-generation fighter jet in 2021, according to a statement the Chinese Aeronautical Establishment released on its WeChat public account on Monday.
The statement was removed by its publisher as of Tuesday evening.
This team is responsible for the new fighter jet's basic technology project, and other institutes, including AVIC Shenyang Aircraft Design and Research Institute and the Chengdu-based No.29 Research Institute under the state-owned China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC), are also involved in its development, according to the statement.
The statement did not elaborate on the details of the new fighter jet, but the Shenyang institute is known for the development of the J-15, China's first type of aircraft carrier-based fighter jet, and the FC-31, China's second type of stealth aircraft rumored to be under deep modification to become a new aircraft carrier-based fighter jet.
Based on available information, it is possible that the new fighter jet introduced in the Chinese Aeronautical Establishment statement is indeed a new aircraft carrier-based fighter jet developed from the FC-31, Fu Qianshao, a Chinese air defense expert, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
Fu said that while the Chinese Air Force may eventually require a medium-sized stealth fighter jet to accompany the heavy J-20 stealth fighter jet, the Chinese Navy is in more urgent need of a stealth fighter jet on China's future aircraft carriers, as the US has already developed F-35B and F-35C stealth fighter jets for amphibious assault ships and aircraft carriers.
If this is the case, it will likely take another five years or so of testing following the maiden flight in 2021 to put the new fighter jet into active service, Fu said, noting that this time period could be shortened because the FC-31 has been tested as a technical demonstrator for many years.
According to a statement released by the Shenyang institute in December 2019, it has started developing a new type of fighter jet jointly with AVIC Manufacturing Technology Institute since 2018. This older report did not elaborate on the specifics of the new aircraft.
China is reportedly building its third and more advanced aircraft carrier at Shanghai's Jiangnan Shipyard, which is expected to be launched and commissioned in the 2020s. A more advanced fighter jet could greatly enhance the carrier's combat capability, analysts said.
There has also been speculation online by military enthusiasts claiming the new fighter jet could be a drone fighter jet or a space fighter jet.
China's new-generation fighter jet scheduled to make maiden flight in 2021: report
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times
Published: 2020/6/30 18:08:39
A Chinese FC-31 stealth fighter has its test flight ahead of the 10th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province, Nov 10, 2014. Photo: Xinhua
China's new-generation fighter jet is scheduled to make its maiden flight in 2021, an aviation industry report revealed on Monday. Analysts speculate that it will be China's new aircraft carrier-based fighter jet.
A team at China Aero-Polytechnology Establishment under the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) has resumed work while fighting the COVID-19 epidemic with the aim of supporting the scheduled maiden flight of a new-generation fighter jet in 2021, according to a statement the Chinese Aeronautical Establishment released on its WeChat public account on Monday.
The statement was removed by its publisher as of Tuesday evening.
This team is responsible for the new fighter jet's basic technology project, and other institutes, including AVIC Shenyang Aircraft Design and Research Institute and the Chengdu-based No.29 Research Institute under the state-owned China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC), are also involved in its development, according to the statement.
The statement did not elaborate on the details of the new fighter jet, but the Shenyang institute is known for the development of the J-15, China's first type of aircraft carrier-based fighter jet, and the FC-31, China's second type of stealth aircraft rumored to be under deep modification to become a new aircraft carrier-based fighter jet.
Based on available information, it is possible that the new fighter jet introduced in the Chinese Aeronautical Establishment statement is indeed a new aircraft carrier-based fighter jet developed from the FC-31, Fu Qianshao, a Chinese air defense expert, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
Fu said that while the Chinese Air Force may eventually require a medium-sized stealth fighter jet to accompany the heavy J-20 stealth fighter jet, the Chinese Navy is in more urgent need of a stealth fighter jet on China's future aircraft carriers, as the US has already developed F-35B and F-35C stealth fighter jets for amphibious assault ships and aircraft carriers.
If this is the case, it will likely take another five years or so of testing following the maiden flight in 2021 to put the new fighter jet into active service, Fu said, noting that this time period could be shortened because the FC-31 has been tested as a technical demonstrator for many years.
According to a statement released by the Shenyang institute in December 2019, it has started developing a new type of fighter jet jointly with AVIC Manufacturing Technology Institute since 2018. This older report did not elaborate on the specifics of the new aircraft.
China is reportedly building its third and more advanced aircraft carrier at Shanghai's Jiangnan Shipyard, which is expected to be launched and commissioned in the 2020s. A more advanced fighter jet could greatly enhance the carrier's combat capability, analysts said.
There has also been speculation online by military enthusiasts claiming the new fighter jet could be a drone fighter jet or a space fighter jet.
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Why didn't they contract 611 to do it? If anything 611 has a better reputation than 601 given the J-20s success ... or is there also a 611 carrier borne fighter also in the mix.
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I know a lot of people (including myself) wondering what is MBSE. So here it goes:-
What is Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE)?
Question Variant(s): What is MBSE?; What is Model-Based Systems Development (MBSD)?; What is Agile MBSE?
Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), a.k.a. Model-Based Systems Development (MBSD), is a Systems Engineering process paradigm that emphasizes the application of rigorous architecture modeling principles and best practices to Systems Engineering activities throughout the System Development Life Cycle (SDLC). These Systems Engineering activities include, but are not limited to, requirements analysis, functional analysis, performance analysis, system design, trade studies, system architecture specification, and system Verification & Validation (V&V).
https://mbseworks.com/mbse-overview/
The MBSE team was sent from CAE (China aeronautical Establishment) to 601 institute as per the report.
At least 3 research and development institutions are involved in this NG naval fighter jet (J35?). CAE, Shenyang 601 and Chengdu 29 institutes.
What is Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE)?
Question Variant(s): What is MBSE?; What is Model-Based Systems Development (MBSD)?; What is Agile MBSE?
Model-Based Systems Engineering (MBSE), a.k.a. Model-Based Systems Development (MBSD), is a Systems Engineering process paradigm that emphasizes the application of rigorous architecture modeling principles and best practices to Systems Engineering activities throughout the System Development Life Cycle (SDLC). These Systems Engineering activities include, but are not limited to, requirements analysis, functional analysis, performance analysis, system design, trade studies, system architecture specification, and system Verification & Validation (V&V).
https://mbseworks.com/mbse-overview/
The MBSE team was sent from CAE (China aeronautical Establishment) to 601 institute as per the report.
At least 3 research and development institutions are involved in this NG naval fighter jet (J35?). CAE, Shenyang 601 and Chengdu 29 institutes.
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I don't think that you can generalise that "611 has a better reputation than 601" at all, especially given the success of SAC's Flanker family. Also I'm sure that besides pure military considerations, also industrial things must be considered since it would make CAC/611 the sole provider for fighters for decades and as such I would rate it an important aspect to keep two competitors alive and third, for a carrier-borne fighter I don't thin that SAC has a lower reputation than CAC.
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