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J-K not part of India, seeking plebiscite not a crime: Engineer Rashid

Prabhakaran whipped your ex PM, and you failed for a 20 years in capturing him. Be thankful to the lankans, otherwise the world would have seen only his natural death.
I am thankful to them for putting the rabid dog to eternal sleep. :D

Son, yahoo messenger was gone long ago.. You didn't came out of your hiding yet? musims left the place and aren't searching you, come out now and smell some fresh air..

AR rahman, Ilayaraja, rock here more than these guys...
Son?

I am no Christian, dear padre. :P

Rahman and Ilayaraja?

Bas!!! How the hell could 2% of the evil brahmins produce so much talent in a place that wants to get rid of them?

Are all Periyarites like you? I mean, worthless?

Lets not make fun of Srilankan Tamils, they went through oppression and things are becoming better there with the change of constitution and other programs.

But mostly online we face pseudo Tamils who hate their identity and India. Those intolerant zombie making faiths from middle east !

The one who speaks about bravery and mob fights clearly point to one religion.
The Elam had started making fun of the Tamils long back. It was just another power struggle.

In any case, this gentleman is a typical Christian evangelist in the garb of Tamil nationalism. :D
 
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What about your history? When did it start? What about Muslim history ? Everything which Muslims have gobbled is the reference point for the history and everything before that is vaccum. Is this what you are trying to say?

An Indian "historical" claim was made about Kashmir, I just debunked it. Remember, the word "India" is a colonial term, a colonial entity , with its colonial subjects refereed as "Indians", used by Brits which you borrowed, and if you know your true history, you wont be feeling proud of being called "Indian" let alone name your country "India". This is how "historic" and "ancient" India is.

I can go beyond thousand years of Muslims rule if you wish but it will be a long hard slog, if you are ready for it.
 
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The word "India" is a colonial term, got no ancient historic significance, created by Brits to refer these lands as colonial entity and its colonial subjects as "Indians". No wonder your obsession with foreign masters has not died down and you feel proud to be called Indian and your country India.

Please feel free to go beyond British raj, there was no "India" before British Raj, but there is a small matter of Muslim rule over subcontinent for around about thousand years.

And if you really want to go in ancient history of this region, there is only one empire, one country, one civilization, which our Pakistani ancestors build and sustained for thousands and thousands of years long before Babylonians and Egyptians, called Indus. Which effectively put us as being most ancient of all human race, mother of all human civilization. With this background, do you think, you lot in our east, the people of Ganges civilization got any standing to on your claims? You can, however, claim to be from us, like the other civilizations that came after Indus. Kashmir is just a very small part of a much larger picture here my Son. We are not claiming lands by design, but only by default. Its our sovereign birth right, for we are the people of mighty Indus, the land of pure.

india or the "indies" in spanish was a term which existed way before british colonialism and was recognised as a common cultural bound state during the time of marco polo and columbus. the indus valley civilization formed as much part of current india as it did 2 pakistan and parts of afghanistan. kashmir is irrelevant 2 the indus valley or the ganges plain civilizations.
 
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I am thankful to them for putting the rabid dog to eternal sleep. :D


Son?

I am no Christian, dear padre. :P

Rahman and Ilayaraja?

Bas!!! How the hell could 2% of the evil brahmins produce so much talent in a place that wants to get rid of them?

Are all Periyarites like you? I mean, worthless?


The Elam had started making fun of the Tamils long back. It was just another power struggle.

In any case, this gentleman is a typical Christian evangelist in the garb of Tamil nationalism. :D
I don't want to abuse jesus now, to prove i am not a christian. Members from TN know well that i am not a christian.

Oh i didn't thought you wanted spoon feed, APJ, chandrayan annadurai.. But these 2% not achieved any thing like the personalities i have quoted.

Isn't pathetic to be a pandit? I mean cowardly? Running here and there, begging for someones mercy.

Among the most funniest thing is, a pandit calling prabhakaran a coward.. Prabhakaran may be a terrorist but certainly not a coward, he died in his land fighting. See you guys, always coming with banner to various states, instead of fighting the ones kicked you out.
 
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An Indian "historical" claim was made about Kashmir, I just debunked it. Remember, the word "India" is a colonial term, a colonial entity , with its colonial subjects refereed as "Indians", used by Brits which you borrowed, and if you know your true history, you wont be feeling proud of being called "Indian" let alone name your country "India". This is how "historic" and "ancient" India is.

I can go beyond thousand years of Muslims rule if you wish but it will be a long hard slog, if you are ready for it.
No need to repeat all those which is already discussed to length on PDF many times with many members who are not ready to accept the other sides POV even if supported by logic/facts and proofs. It will be merely timewaste.
Also we are not talking about the origin of the word India. We are just talking about India;s claim on Kashmir. So please refrain from going offtopic
 
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india or the "indies" in spanish was a term which existed way before british colonialism and was recognised as a common cultural bound state during the time of marco polo and columbus. the indus valley civilization formed as much part of current india as it did 2 pakistan and parts of afghanistan. kashmir is irrelevant 2 the indus valley or the ganges plain civilizations.

Be it brit , spanish or portugese, they were all colonial, the term India is not aboriginal but colonial by all terms and definitions.
Just like ancient Egypt was must bigger then what it is now , Ancient Pakistan was much larger, comprising the lands of whole current western Indian belt from Kashmir down to Gujrat, whole of Afghanistan, Iran, and some part of Turkmenistan. This has been proven by Archaeology. Not just kashmir, we got birth right effectively over the region around us, because we are the people of Indus. We are the ones who build , sustained, and expanded our empire/civlization for thousands and thousands of years.

No need to repeat all those which is already discussed to length on PDF many times with many members who are not ready to accept the other sides POV even if supported by logic/facts and proofs. It will be merely timewaste.
Also we are not talking about the origin of the word India. We are just talking about India;s claim on Kashmir. So please refrain from going offtopic

Please read again. the word "historic" was used to make Indian claim over Kashmir. that is where my objection started.
 
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lol History, goes beyong british RAJ, when india is rule till afgan. india aka Bharat was existed much before. You have not told the real history is not our issue.

Well Muslims came from Outside and settle here. if you support China occupation in Tibet , then Indian Is justified to take back its historic lands.
Humans are not tree who pop ups from round.. some one come here from somewhere..
Recent history of 1000 years where few hindu states were united under muslim states.. it was muslim who ruled 900 years of hindustan where british came and gave u name british ìndia which u are so proud of..
Indian books specially hindu raj messed up ur history by not telling u the truth..
Kashmir is and was muslims majority when partition in 47.. it suppose and will be part of Pakistan or seprate country their choice.. but indian wont be able to hold it long.. 700 thousands army men keeping it intact . Muslim will keep pushing it till then.. u can say ur wet dream stories please..
 
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I am thankful to them for putting the rabid dog to eternal sleep. :D


Son?

I am no Christian, dear padre. :P

Rahman and Ilayaraja?

Bas!!! How the hell could 2% of the evil brahmins produce so much talent in a place that wants to get rid of them?

Are all Periyarites like you? I mean, worthless?


The Elam had started making fun of the Tamils long back. It was just another power struggle.

In any case, this gentleman is a typical Christian evangelist in the garb of Tamil nationalism. :D
So marvan is a Christian??
,do you have any proof to support??
yeah...So those who go against and disagrees with Indian establishments in Tamilnadu are Christians and Muslims..Hindus are the only patriotic,nationalistic community in Tamilnadu..Marvan itself a Tamil Hindu caste name in Tamilnadu and moreover majority of anti Indian Tamils like Vaiko,Thiruma heck even Periyar are Hindus only..
,you may have some personal enmity with Christians just like any other sanghis in this forum,But this is not the right way
 
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What happened in Baluchistan ? any idea

Balochistan Ruler went against peoples wish like it happened in kashmir.

And there are a lot many balochs in this forum to say how they feel under pakistan. I am yet to see a muslim Kashmiri in this forum who bats for india...
 
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Now now, deep down you know you are talking BS my friend.
Any fact presented sounds BS to the party on loosing side my friend. :-).

Humans are not tree who pop ups from round.. some one come here from somewhere..
Recent history of 1000 years where few hindu states were united under muslim states.. it was muslim who ruled 900 years of hindustan where british came and gave u name british ìndia which u are so proud of..
Indian books specially hindu raj messed up ur history by not telling u the truth..
Kashmir is and was muslims majority when partition in 47.. it suppose and will be part of Pakistan or seprate country their choice.. but indian wont be able to hold it long.. 700 thousands army men keeping it intact . Muslim will keep pushing it till then.. u can say ur wet dream stories please..
My friend under Maurya Dynasty almost all of pakistan was under Hindu Rule. With the same logic, Pakistan should be handed over to Hindus.

So lets make a deal, we will give Kashmir to pakistan and then immediately Paksitan should cease to exist and become part of Hindustan. Is that ok with you?
 
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Balochistan Ruler went against peoples wish like it happened in kashmir.

And there are a lot many balochs in this forum to say how they feel under pakistan. I am yet to see a muslim Kashmiri in this forum who bats for india...
Do you know if people who claim to be Baloch on this site are really baloch.

Heck 95% of the Pakistani members claim connection to either kashmir or balochistan.when we all know Pakistan is majority punjabi and dominated by them.
 
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Do you know if people who claim to be Baloch on this site are really baloch.

Heck 95% of the Pakistani members claim connection to either kashmir or balochistan.when we all know Pakistan is majority punjabi and dominated by them.


During the great famine of Kashmir in which 5 lakh died many migrated to areas that now makeup North Punjab if you knew history you wouldnt have said something as stupid as this

And i am from Azad Kashmir i dont require certificate from a bengali or tamil to prove it
 
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Balochistan Ruler went against peoples wish like it happened in kashmir.

And there are a lot many balochs in this forum to say how they feel under pakistan. I am yet to see a muslim Kashmiri in this forum who bats for india...

Have you went through the rules of the forum on the first place. What you expect with a baloch if they are not allied to the interest of the nation?

and you need specialy muslim kashmiri, why not a budhist, Kashmiri Pandit or Sikh to entertain your douts ?
 
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