J-11B vs Su-30MKI

[peacemaker10]

Useless thread ..

J-11B is a copy of Su-27 and at most comparable with Su-30MKK3. One to one, Su-30 MKI is most advanced version in all Su-30 family and hence having an edge over J-11B. Not to mention TVC, superior radar and avionics in MKI.

 

[Trichy]

hi
Su-30 has 2-D TVC engine what about J-11b?

Su-30MKI has 3-D TVC

 

[Luftwaffe]

you forgot mki has hyperspace technology, invisible cloak technology as well and shields.

 

[humblehobbes]

well.. I am sure someone's gonna use this reply.. So let me spoil their chance..

Its not the machine that matters, but the man behind the machine that matters..

Going by that, It seems that the users of J11-B would be the better men behind the machines...

 

[Chanakyaa]

Today almost 40% of Expenditure is made on Avinoics and Advanced Systems like Radars etc.
That is precisely the Advantage MKI Has over J11B , OR F16 BLK 52 has over Blk 15 !

MKI Main Advantages ::

1. Has Best PESA Radar , Range 300+ KM
2. Has Israeli Jammers
3. Has Western Avionics
4. Has Indian Mission Computers
5. Has 3D TVC and Canards , is Superbly Manuverble
6. Has Capability to Fire Brahmos and Can be used as a First Strike Weapon in Nuclear Stage.

Its Almost Customised Su 35 for India as Wiki Reports.
So Compare a Su 35 and Su 27 ( Copied version as we all Know ) , You get the Picture.

you forgot mki has hyperspace technology, invisible cloak technology as well and shields.

Neighbors Envy=Owners pride !!

 

[peacemaker10]

you forgot mki has hyperspace technology, invisible cloak technology as well and shields.

In short it has a WARP technology ...

So, who want to make a first contact ??

 

[Tiger Awan]

Today almost 40% of Expenditure is made on Avinoics and Advanced Systems like Radars etc.
That is precisely the Advantage MKI Has over J11B , OR F16 BLK 52 has over Blk 15 !

MKI Main Advantages ::

1. Has Best PESA Radar , Range 300+ KM
2. Has Israeli Jammers
3. Has Western Avionics
4. Has Indian Mission Computers
5. Has 3D TVC and Canards , is Superbly Manuverble
6. Has Capability to Fire Brahmos and Can be used as a First Strike Weapon in Nuclear Stage.

great standards

 

[IndianArmy]

great standards

Great standards Indeed, We are happy as Long as Counries Like Israel and Russia want our avionics to be Used by them, its a Moment of pride for us...

Russia wanted our Vetrivale Avionics suit for there Sukhoi 30 varients to export it to other countries...

Israel Is looking to Put Our Mayavi EWS for there F-35's.... And If that is not standards, then may I Know what according to Is?

 

[Luftwaffe]

XiNiX..
Point# 6 can be applied to J-11B
use of composite material
re-designed air inlets of engine intakes to reduce the radar cross section, this coupled with the adoption of composite material.
radar not much information is out there and most won't go with wikipedia, so lets wait till Chinese release more information regarding the radar/avionics/jammers
mki superior but not to be over exaggerated.
I would still not compare J-11B with mki unless PLAAF give outs transparent information regarding its avionics/radar/jammers and the engine. There are too many vague information out there regarding J-11 variants.

 

[gowthamraj]

i have one serious question did Sukhoi 30mkk have bars

 

[gowthamraj]

Great standards Indeed, We are happy as Long as Counries Like Israel and Russia want our avionics to be Used by them, its a Moment of pride for us...

Russia wanted our Vetrivale Avionics suit for there Sukhoi 30 varients to export it to other countries...

Israel Is looking to Put Our Mayavi EWS for there F-35's .... And If that is not standards, then may I Know what according to Is?

Sir what is this. .

Do you have source for it

 

[amalakas]

The Chinese Air-force is refusing to accept the J-11B for service as it has unacceptable leves of vibration during take-off under load and some g manauvres ..

so not really a vs contest until they become operational.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

The Chinese Air-force is refusing to accept the J-11B for service as it has unacceptable leves of vibration during take-off under load and some g manauvres ..

so not really a vs contest until they become operational.

24 J-11B jets in active service at Shenyang Military Region, More coming soon.

This is the advanced multi-role version which uses more Chinese components, including radar, engine, and missiles. The chief program engineer for J-11B is Mr. Guo Dianman.

China is interested in reducing its reliance on foreign technology for both cost reasons and a desire to improve its domestic research and design.

It is reported that one regiment of J-11Bs are currently in service, but this seems to contradict with the latest information provided by the Chinese government: In May, 2007, the existence of J-11B was finally acknowledged by the Chinese government for the first time when the state-run Chinese TV stations first aired the report on J-11B in PLAAF service.

Asian Defense analysts believe Shenyang Aircraft Corporation will be able manufacture 24 J-11B jets every year to year from 2010/11.

 

[amalakas]

The PLAAF will not accept any more planes untill the problems are solved.

 

[SpArK]

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