J-10C for PAF - Hypothetical Scenario

[sohail.ishaque]

Hi,

Do you have any clue about war---?

Do you have any clue about how wars are fought---?

Do you have any clue what the wars are fought with---?

Do you have any clue when you have to get the weapons to fight the wars---?

Do you have any understanding of the time factor in understanding and learning how to use & operate the weapons---?

There are so many other Do Yous---if you may answer for some---I will bring out the other ones---.

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Nops.

 

[MastanKhan]

Nops.

Hi,

If you can learn then ask---.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Can it take over the role of the mirages? Then yes

 

[JohnWick]

Another J-10 hater talk bad without substantial evidence.


J-10C is sold will never be allowed to be touch by Turkish. We do not want Inferior Turkish avionics and weapon to mate with it and downgrade it's ability.

 

[Beast]

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What does it proves?

Are you trying to tell me a combat plane has never crashed before?

See the link and what will it implies what? You are making an ridiculous claim... Can you act more like an adult?

http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/mishaps-and-accidents/year/2018/

 

[JohnWick]

What does it proves?

Are you trying to tell me a combat plane has never crashed before?

See the link and what will it implies what? You are making an ridiculous claim... Can you act more like an adult?

http://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/mishaps-and-accidents/year/2018/

Compairing J-10 with Viper F-16 The mighty fighting Falcon.Even 1980s old F-16 is still better than than J-10.
And for the current block 70/72 l,it will be its insult to be compared with J-10.Here is 1980s block-15 of Griffins.

And listen this song.

 

[Basel]

You can't just compare fighters to each other in a fair way, combat is not fair. There will be assets supporting both air forces, and key way to beat Indian air force is to destroy AWACS aircraft. Without AWACS, IAF would be like a man armed with a gun, but only has a flashlight at night while PAF would be able to operate with night vision goggles. J-10C is not the key here, it can't perform the role needed to destroy AWACS at far range.

Key for PAF is buying an aircraft like Mig-31BM armed with very long range BVRAAMs that allow engagement of AWACS at far ranges, and yet can safely maneuver out of the situation. Even buying a squadron of these aircraft would allow PAF to take out strategic assets of IAF.

Mig-31s have their own benefit, and ASAT, anti AWACS and SOW strike are some of those.

 

[Beast]

Compairing J-10 with Viper F-16 The fighting Falcon.Even 1980s old F-16 is still better than than J-10.
And for the current block 70/72 l,it will be its insult to be compared with J-10.Here is 1980s block-15 of Griffins.View attachment 594753 View attachment 594752 View attachment 594751
And listen this song.

LOL.. I have no times with kiddy comment from you. Ya.. Go ahead and live in your dream and continue under estimate J-10C.

 

[Basel]

Although MiG-31 is not possible but you have hit the nail! what is required is silver bullet!

Mig-31s are also equipped with Hypersonic ALCM which means that it is also good for SOW strikes and it can be used in other areas too like tracking BMs and possibly engaging them at high altitudes.

 

[Meliodas]

That's great.

If PAF (ever) considers that - we'll move on from the Stone-age (Mirages) to the Medieval-age (JH-7).

I always thought the idea is to improve & move forward.

We should improve step by step and for the sake of comparison see a-10 archaic as hell but still usaf loves it and needs it.

 

[StormBreaker]

Hi,

Do you have any clue about war---?

Do you have any clue about how wars are fought---?

Do you have any clue what the wars are fought with---?

Do you have any clue when you have to get the weapons to fight the wars---?

Do you have any understanding of the time factor in understanding and learning how to use & operate the weapons---?

There are so many other Do Yous---if you may answer for some---I will bring out the other ones---.



Hi,

In other words what you are saying is---that the very one LUCKY chance that you get to enter the enemy territory and be in a striking position---you would rather have a Truck Load than a Bicycle load---.

What the bicycle load strike will do is make the enemy mad and more and use more of his resources---but the Truck load strike would put the enemy in a massive panic and create uncertainty---.

War is also about creating panic and uncertainty---.

Exactly, you have got a chance, you know that there is no coming back for the pilot and the plane. Why not utilise the chance to go full truck. But, having truck load has its own problems such as Huge rcs, more prone to get hit

 

[araz]

Another J-10 hater talk bad without substantial evidence.


J-10C is sold will never be allowed to be touch by Turkish. We do not want Inferior Turkish avionics and weapon to mate with it and downgrade it's ability.

I would suggest you remain objective and avoid flame baiting. We all know what Turkey and China are doing. I have already intimated that China would not allow this and it would not be necessary either.
It is simply a cost factor for PAF to integrate J10. PAF remains impressed with the fighter. However with all other projects going on finds it difficult to find the money and the time frame in which it can integrate J10. Engines remain a question mark although our Chinese brothers are increasingly confident integrating WS10 into the J10 and the performance remains good. Maturity of platform will need 2-3 more years of working in PLAAF for the world to be convinced about its engine maturity. It seems that at around that time people will start taking interest in the platform.
A

 

[StormBreaker]

Another J-10 hater talk bad without substantial evidence.


J-10C is sold will never be allowed to be touch by Turkish. We do not want Inferior Turkish avionics and weapon to mate with it and downgrade it's ability.

Sold ? What are you even talking about

Another J-10 hater talk bad without substantial evidence.


J-10C is sold will never be allowed to be touch by Turkish. We do not want Inferior Turkish avionics and weapon to mate with it and downgrade it's ability.

Oh, BTW, TVC nozzle was just test purposes right ? No plans of implementation on J-10 in future ?

 

[araz]

LOL.. I have no times with kiddy comment from you. Ya.. Go ahead and live in your dream and continue under estimate J-10C.

The fact remains that the planes noted have had accidents. So rather than waffling answer why you think that is so .
A

 

[StormBreaker]

LOL.. I have no times with kiddy comment from you. Ya.. Go ahead and live in your dream and continue under estimate J-10C.

The fact remains that the planes noted have had accidents. So rather than waffling answer why you think that is so .
A

Uptil now, 12 J-10 have crashed out which mostly are S and A variants.
Correct me where i am wrong
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/type/J10