what the hell are talking about let say we do as you said let's add J-10 too right now then you will have 3 generation fighter and mix match of 4th generation fighter that is same plane as Indian that is just stupid every one talks about Indian 220 SU-30's but no one talk about India can only operate half of them if want that for PAF then sure do it if you think JF-17 is gamble then i can't be reason with you you are strong as the weakest link
1)now you have 4 types of fighters F7,7P mirages JF-17 and F-16 that means 4 type of different training and spare parts now add J-10 too one more training one more spar parts with it will only add more cost for now
2)PAF still have time every one and the world is going for 2 class system F-22 and F-35 SU-35 and MIG-35 J-10 and J-11 or J-15 why because it is cheaper and economical JF-17 will allow us to remove 2 types of 3 generation planes after that you will only have 2 type of planes that means is PAF will the time and resources to add or integrate or replace one other plane to the fleet that the hole point
where the hell you people getting your information J-10 is not 3.5 generation fighter it is 4+ or 4.5 generation fighter it is Chinese 3.5 generation fighter because china didn't build any 1st generation fighters if USA going to start build F-16 in India then pakistan will not buy F-16 then it will be replace and i think Boeing going to start building Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet in India not F-16
Hi,
Count the types of aircraft that the indian air force has.
Now count the type of aircraft that the usaf has. it is a misnoer that they are going for 2 types---they still have a plethora of complimentary aircraft to these two.
So---if the J10 is not the choice---any other potent aircraft maybe the choice at the top tier.
Regardless of what the Paf say----it still needs two types of aircraft before its gets a 5th gen aircraft.
You need---your utility and the type of enemy that you are facing selects the type of aircraft.
Paf has neither of its bases covered---.
F7's and mirages are on their way out---so don't count them---just count the JF17.
The problem in this equation is the F 16----and issues with its supplies.
In the time of war---about 70% of the SU's will be available----.
Do not measure it as one aircraft to JF 17 ----. The SU has the power to carry 5-6 times the numbers of BVR.
A sortie of 2 SU 30's carry as many BVR missiles as 10 JF 17's----so what is the mulitplier effect of power projection for each SU30???
It can carry twice the load of a JF17----so what is the power projection then?
It can stay afloat for 2--3 times than JF 17---so what is the power projection then?
The issue over here is---that the top tier of the Paf is extremely vulnerable and the FLANK is open.
The FLANK means---that the paf has no heavy strike aircraft to respond with. And well know about the top tier issues.
When I state J10C---it is for the reason that it is readily available with the latest chinese avionics and you may have the option to get the Turkish avionics as well or Vixen.
This aircraft has the similar operational costs as the F16's---maybe a little higher--but not out of proportion----.
It is a single engine aircraft----.
You already have all the weapons that the J10 may use.
Plus you will be ably to get the high off bore sight missile for it as well that you may a difficult time otherwise.
So---the J10 is the bottom of the list to fill in the hole---then you can step up from this position to an SU35---Eurofighter---Rafale---J31---that is purely upto you.
But the baseline now is the J10C---.
Realistically---If I have my way---I will either look for the JH7B with aesa----this would be like throwing a monkey wrench into the enemy's planning---or the SU34's.
Because right now----they don't have to worry about any deep strike. With the JH7B's---the unpredictability of where it could strike from and from which direction----would help SPREAD THE ENEMY'S DEFENSE IN A WIDER CIRCLE---which means that the enemy will have to disperse its assets in a wider area and might have to reduce the number of assets from its strike force and divert it elsewhere.
Like mumbai----.The JH7B can strike mumbai from different angles---rather than a direct line of flight.
Mumbai is the jugular vein of india---but it has never been attacked before. The results of strikes would be catastrophic on the psyche of the public and on the investments---.
So---technically---you may have the enemy divert 1/4th of its assets in that region.
Then you may also have the ability to strike Calcuta from over the mountains---if not calcutta---then somewhere close----.
What does that do---again diversion of resources from the main strike point---.
I did not want to bring in Calcutta region before---I thought that you superstars would have the brains to think about the radius of the strike capabilities of the JH7B's on your own and won't wait for me to feed you the directions all the time.
But all you kids can do is argue argue argue---.
I bring in the JH7B---because it is available----but if the SU34 was available---I would not have any problems----.
So--if I got the job today to decide what the paf gets-----I will pick 48 JH7B's with aesa nd ability to launch BVR's and the off bore sight WVR missiles---with growler capabilities and possibly buddy refueling.
There is more to a GUNFIGHT than having the ability to perform HIGH G's all the time.
well the most I can expect is a statement from PAF " We are capable of defending our Skies " nothing more to expect from them ..
Sir,
That is a blatant LIE----. In order for you to defend your skies---you need to have the ability to reach into the enemy's stronghold and do damage. Without that---you cannot protect.
