J-10 might not needed as they don't add anything to PAF's capability

[帅的一匹]

wht people dont get is that pak cant even afford thunders, uptil now most running on loans

Pakistan can't afford fighters unless it double its export and economy

China give special aid for 60 JF17 during Zadari's visit with Wen Jia Bao during year 2010? I once heard about the news in CCTV.

PAF shall deliver Pilotes to fly J10b/c in China,so we can deliver J10b/c immediately to the PAF if Pakistan need in war time. There used to be experience when China delivered new tanks in PLA arsenal to Pakistani army during 1965.

 

[帅的一匹]

Hi in india vs pakistan wars china always maintained neutral stance. In some instances china helped india(1.1971 war US asked you to move troops near indian border to prevent indian invasion of east pakistan, but china refused 2.during kargil war china supported india)

China helped India to bully Pakistan? You have too much alcohol man. We will help Pakistan to overcome any invasion. Past, today, tomorrow. India now is doing good in economy, just leave Pakistan alone.

 

[Mssniper966]

We never know...if jf 17 program does not go as planned or j31 is further delayed Pak Air Force might go for j10 c

 

[MastanKhan]

What to you did in 1971?

There was no reason for help either from china or the U S---they both realized that it was war between two brothers who did not want to live together---that is why the stayed away.

West Pakistan of that time did not realize that scenario.

But when india planned to attack west pakistan---Nixon is known to have threatened to nuc india and then russia is known to have said something in return---.

 

[帅的一匹]

There was no reason for help either from china or the U S---they both realized that it was war between two brothers who did not want to live together---that is why the stayed away.

West Pakistan of that time did not realize that scenario.

But when india planned to attack west pakistan---Nixon is known to have threatened to nuc india and then russia is known to have said something in return---.

Premier Zhou en Lai warned India government if they not retrieved, we will send PLA to join the war. China back then was in the turmoil of cultural revolution , nowadays China is something totally different. Nixon is a good man to Pakistan, Pakistan served as a bridge between China and USA back in 1970s.

We never know...if jf 17 program does not go as planned or j31 is further delayed Pak Air Force might go for j10 c

As a backbone of PAF J10c will play its role together with F16.

Soviet was always behind India aggression to China and Pakistan both in 1962 and 1971, I always take cautious of Rusky.

Indians think they helped Bangladeshis got independence in 1971, I see lots of Bangladeshi members don't like them that much as they hype red.

 

[Mssniper966]

Premier Zhou en Lai warned India government if they not retrieved, we will send PLA to join the war. China back then was in the turmoil of cultural revolution , nowadays China is something totally different. Nixon is a good man to Pakistan, Pakistan served as a bridge between China and USA back in 1970s.


As a backbone of PAF J10c will play its role together with F16.

Soviet was always behind India aggression to China and Pakistan both in 1962 and 1971, I always take cautious of Rusky.

U r right...I also think Russians and westerners are never to be trusted...they always stab u in the back...further I may create a thread discussing which jet option is feasible for pak Air Force.....

 

[帅的一匹]

The most thing that India government don't wanna see is China help Pakistan develop economy. Cause it will help Pakistan to get stronger. You shall keep doing things that your adversary don't like, that's really stings.

 

[Mssniper966]

China give special aid for 60 JF17 during Zadari's visit with Wen Jia Bao during year 2010? I once heard about the news in CCTV.

PAF shall deliver Pilotes to fly J10b/c in China,so we can deliver J10b/c immediately to the PAF if Pakistan need in war time. There used to be experience when China delivered new tanks in PLA arsenal to Pakistani army during 1965.

There is more to pak China war tactics once CPEC is completed....they are planning a joint military airbase near Pak China borders consisting of both Pak China jets....

 

[SQ8]

But the egyptian air force was decimated otherwise in air to air contact---the mig had to land every 1/2 hour to refuel----the phantoms could stay up for around 3 1/2 hours---the equation was very simple for the Idaf..

If that fuel fractions were the only reasons for air superiority.. Air Forces would fly large flying fuel tanks with bb guns on them.

 

[Mssniper966]

What to you did in 1971?

In 1971 Russia openly supported India and even Americans could not counter them....let alone China....although China payed the bills of war to Pakistan after it ended

 

[ssethii]

I would suggest fanboys to hold their horses until block 3 of JF-17 materializes.
Till then PAF with their given resources should focus on improving the thunders to it's limits and rest of us within our capacity should focus on improving the political and economical outlook of the country.

 

[MastanKhan]

If that fuel fractions were the only reasons for air superiority.. Air Forces would fly large flying fuel tanks with bb guns on them.

Hi,

Well---look at it technically. There is hardly any american aircraft that does not have more loiter time than its opponent's SIMILAR aircraft---plus it also has the resource to fuel up those aircraft during flight---.

Even the pakistani pilot who shot down the israeli mirage in syria in the late 60's---admitted that the migs they were flying had only 1/2 hour flight time and the israelis would jump on syrian air force at the moment of low fuel.

Fuel fractions are not the only thing---but the most important thing---. Fuel fuel fuel---it is all about fuel in combat---.

You don't have fuel---you will lose.

 

[SQ8]

Hi,

Well---look at it technically. There is hardly any american aircraft that does not have more loiter time than its opponent's SIMILAR aircraft---plus it also has the resource to fuel up those aircraft during flight---.

Even the pakistani pilot who shot down the israeli mirage in syria in the late 60's---admitted that the migs they were flying had only 1/2 hour flight time and the israelis would jump on syrian air force at the moment of low fuel.

Fuel fractions are not the only thing---but the most important thing---. Fuel fuel fuel---it is all about fuel in combat---.

You don't have fuel---you will lose.

If you dont have fuel, you will be less effective. But if you dont have the technology nor tactics.. you can take a flying gasbag into a short range same environment and still lose.

 

[MastanKhan]

If you dont have fuel, you will be less effective. But if you dont have the technology nor tactics.. you can take a flying gasbag into a short range same environment and still lose.

Sir,

Thank you for the brilliant insight.

 

[Khafee]

please point out the various reasons

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