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For most PDF members the F16 represents the symbol of PAF AND has done so since 1990.
When the first 40 planes arrived 21 years ago THEY GAVE THE IAF a real fright so much so that the indians ordered over 200 fighters in response ie mig29 mig23 & mirage2000.
The F16 legacy has been built on massive one sided victories by the ISRAELIS in partcular over arab mig air forces has led many to believe that WITH THE F16 FIGHTING FALCONS. you are invincible and safe.
UNFORTUNATELY
its not true.
THE F16 is only as good as the support and after sales service and WAR TIME support that you can get off the AMERICANS.
Israel is a near 100% american equipped air power. THEY ARE GURANTEED USA spares real time intel and weapons during war time. MAKING both their F16 & F15 very potent planes.
THE SAME SUPPORT wud go to japan or indeed south KOREA and even TAIWAN. by USA they would back them allies to the hilt.
FOR PAKISTAN this is not the case.
THE WAY relations have been falling NOT just now but ever since 2001 I,M amazed that PAF has made a huge FINANCIAL BLUNDER and stil,committed £3 billion to the F16 programme.
FOR PAF stil today their F16 is stil the main answer to the SU30MKI mirage2000 & mig29 THREAT.
yet the americans will never provide spares, REAL TIME INTEL, more fighters in any war with india.
EG.
KARGIL.
in reports after KARGIL the then ACM of PAF admitted in 1999 all but 13 F16s where grounded due to spares. IAF MIRAGE2000 had virtually a F16 free war zone. HENCE THE NON PAF showinmg in the conflict.
IF the recent tension at diplomatic level continues wat chance that PAF will get another 18 block 52S or wat chance the all the 44x MLU will be delivered.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WAT GURANTEE THAT IN SOME FUTURE 2014 kick off with IAF that all 63 F16s wont be sanctioned again due to HUGE INDIAN DIPLOMATIC % ECONOMIC pressure.
Surely the resources regardless if its grant aid FROM USA or not should go to a sanction free option.
COULD PAF learn from INDIAN MMRCA decsion and IAF gamble to pay 50% more for typhoon or rafael rather than face future AMERICAN whimps of sanctions at a moments notice on their battle proven F18 super hornets & F16/70 as promised to india
When the first 40 planes arrived 21 years ago THEY GAVE THE IAF a real fright so much so that the indians ordered over 200 fighters in response ie mig29 mig23 & mirage2000.
The F16 legacy has been built on massive one sided victories by the ISRAELIS in partcular over arab mig air forces has led many to believe that WITH THE F16 FIGHTING FALCONS. you are invincible and safe.
UNFORTUNATELY
its not true.
THE F16 is only as good as the support and after sales service and WAR TIME support that you can get off the AMERICANS.
Israel is a near 100% american equipped air power. THEY ARE GURANTEED USA spares real time intel and weapons during war time. MAKING both their F16 & F15 very potent planes.
THE SAME SUPPORT wud go to japan or indeed south KOREA and even TAIWAN. by USA they would back them allies to the hilt.
FOR PAKISTAN this is not the case.
THE WAY relations have been falling NOT just now but ever since 2001 I,M amazed that PAF has made a huge FINANCIAL BLUNDER and stil,committed £3 billion to the F16 programme.
FOR PAF stil today their F16 is stil the main answer to the SU30MKI mirage2000 & mig29 THREAT.
yet the americans will never provide spares, REAL TIME INTEL, more fighters in any war with india.
EG.
KARGIL.
in reports after KARGIL the then ACM of PAF admitted in 1999 all but 13 F16s where grounded due to spares. IAF MIRAGE2000 had virtually a F16 free war zone. HENCE THE NON PAF showinmg in the conflict.
IF the recent tension at diplomatic level continues wat chance that PAF will get another 18 block 52S or wat chance the all the 44x MLU will be delivered.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY WAT GURANTEE THAT IN SOME FUTURE 2014 kick off with IAF that all 63 F16s wont be sanctioned again due to HUGE INDIAN DIPLOMATIC % ECONOMIC pressure.
Surely the resources regardless if its grant aid FROM USA or not should go to a sanction free option.
COULD PAF learn from INDIAN MMRCA decsion and IAF gamble to pay 50% more for typhoon or rafael rather than face future AMERICAN whimps of sanctions at a moments notice on their battle proven F18 super hornets & F16/70 as promised to india