It's fire play at Pokhran! Stunners from Iorn Fist FDR

[Abingdonboy]

Sure about the FADEC part?

This is what I have read mate.

 

[Skull and Bones]

This is what I have read mate.

Then it's RD-33 MK variant, and the most interesting part is it has a service life of 4000 hours.

 

[sancho]

Then it's RD-33 MK variant, and the most interesting part is it has a service life of 4000 hours.

No it's not, the UPGs have the RD33-3 series engines, which is also the base for JF 17s RD93. Only the newer Mig 29M /M2 airframes have integrated RD 33 MK version, like the Mig 29K, or the Mig 35 prototypes.

 

[Skull and Bones]

No it's not, the UPGs have the RD33-3 series engines, which is also the base for JF 17s RD93. Only the newer Mig 29M /M2 airframes have integrated RD 33 MK version, like the Mig 29K, or the Mig 35 prototypes.

Then i guess it will miss FADEC, and neither has resolved it's smokey engine completely.

 

[sudhir007]

 

[RISING SUN]

What is F16 doing in the pic?
I think they have messed up again while designing the pics.

 

[anant_s]

another goof up from our sarkari media. correct location of Pokhran

 

[sancho]

Then i guess it will miss FADEC, and neither has resolved it's smokey engine completely.

Nope, as you can see here:

 

[Skull and Bones]

Nope, as you can see here:

Wow, with all that smoke, it seems to be like it's *** on fire.

 

[sancho]

Wow, with all that smoke, it seems to be like it's *** on fire.

One possible reason why we rejected the RD93, or even a Kaveri engine based on it for LCA from the start. But on the other side, with RD93 LCA might be in operational service now as well.

Btw, Mig 29K and Mig 35 prototype take off with RD33 MK engines for comparison:

 

[DARKY]

One possible reason why we rejected the RD93, or even a Kaveri engine based on it for LCA from the start. But on the other side, with RD93 LCA might be in operational service now as well.

Btw, Mig 29K and Mig 35 prototype take off with RD33 MK engines for comparison:

Completely wrong... Kaveri is not based on RD-33/93 engines.

RD-33K

Length: 4,229 mm (166.50 in)
Diameter: 1,000 mm (39.37 in)
Dry weight: 1,055 kg (2,326 lb)

Kaveri

Length: 3490 mm (137.4 in)
Diameter: 910 mm (35.8 in)
Dry weight: 1,235 kg (2,724 lb) [Goal: 950-1100Kg (2,100-2450 lb)]

RD-33K has 4 LP and 9HP stages While Kaveri has only 3 LP and 6 HP stages... showing that Kaveri is a Small engine as compared with RD-33K... and has similar performance currently but the weight and MTBO is higher.. The intended weight and MTBO makes it a better engine as compared with RD-33K.

The current T/W ratio for Kaveri is 7.8 while RD-33K is 7.9-8.

 

[Abingdonboy]

What is F16 doing in the pic?
I think they have messed up again while designing the pics.

F-16 is the foe, it is punching flares- it's being targeted!

 

[DARKY]

This missile....

Whats happning here with this missiles :0

This looks like a missile gone bonkers "out of control" which one is it by the way

It's designed to fly like this to avoid ground fire. J/K

Gone out of control. !!

Is fired from one of these or this SAM system.

The 9K33 Osa [SA-8 Gecko SAM]... A quick reaction SAM system deployed in IAF... It usually performs such maneuvers while intercepting a highly maneuvering target.

 

[sancho]

Completely wrong... Kaveri is not based on RD-33/93 engines.

Who said it would be? I said they offered RD93 for LCA, just like a co-developed Kaveri based on that engine, just like the French offer a co-developed Kaveri, based on the M88-3. But we constantly rejected Russian techs for LCA, other than weapons.

 

[DARKY]

Who said it would be? I said they offered RD93 for LCA, just like a co-developed Kaveri based on that engine, just like the French offer a co-developed Kaveri, based on the M88-3. But we constantly rejected Russian techs for LCA, other than weapons.

Again wrong... neither did the RD93 meet the dimension/performance parameters set for Kaveri... neither did the Russian make any such offers.

Even If somehow it were to take place of current Kaveri even worse performance was exected.. with the dry thrust rating 35-40kN Dry and 70-75kN wet.. now compare that with current requirement of 60kN dry and about 100kN for wet... If we take naval requirement It goes over 120kN wet... a complete disaster with more money wasted in JV for some engine which fails to run more than 200hrs before the next overhaul.

Russian tech. specially electronics... at that time was struggling to come on par with Israelis forget the west.