“It’s A Suicide Mission, SAAR!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne

[Darth Vader]

in all honesty, this seems to be a more Propoganda piece than anything
Just like Indian Migs, F6 from Pakistan even with very limited modern systems is still nimble and a decent platform for dog fighting in the air. so I don't see pilots from both air forces raising objections that they don't want to fight modern aircraft.
At this Point, Indian claims F16 Kill While Pakistan claims a 30 Mki kill, i will ignore both and stick with Pak's kill of Mig which no side can claim didn't happen.
PAF was able to achieve its objectives, able to neutralize the MKI threat no matter what Indians claim,
Later Indian shopping spree of new weapon system should be enough to answer any questions Indians had in regards to whom had the upper hand.

 

[Windjammer]

A lot more has been discovered since then what is revealed in the report.
Let's see if the Indian MOD or the IAF come clean about this. Maybe they will want to redesignate the SU-30 as AMRAAM Magnet than AMRAAM Dodger.
One thing is obvious, the present Indian armed forces are the worse case of hand in glove with the government than ever before. As for the Indian Air Force or their ground elements, one can only imagine the panic that bestowed them, they couldn't tell the difference between a fast jet and a slow moving helicopter flying so deep inside their airspace. When Modi was crying out for Rafales, he surely wasn't in moaning for an ancient MiG-21.

 

[Path-Finder]

fake newj.

 

[Goenitz]

We should be careful of bringing politics into every thread.
Yes, the establishment was at the helm of affairs and shared the burden of defeat.
This thread is about the psychological effects of PAF's precedence on the IAF pilots.
Listen to these incidents at Tharparkar borders.
We lost 30 people in one assault, more than equalised in the 2nd. Air raids on Brigade HQs and the morale of the officers there.

 

[Mustang125]

Damn, a whole squadron is disbanded especially when IAF is already finding it difficult to maintain their optimal squadron strength. The morale would/is probably very low. In my opinion even worse then getting their planes blown out of the sky. Imagine investing so much resources on training pilots and they refuse to follow orders out of fear. Really shows you the difference between a battle hardened airforce and a show piece airforce.

 

[SIPRA]

I don't blame the pilots at all. They chose the wise course of action. The ones in charge of procurement are the ones to blame.

Had Galwan Clash, where India lost it's 20 soldiers, including a Lieutenant Colonel and got scores of soldiers injured and captured, by China, also some procurement problem?

 

[Trango Towers]

I wonder if this is a true story...if it is then the morale in the IAF is very low and they have no trust in their abilities to defend their airspace.

One thing the supposed mutineers do have right is why su30mki and mirage 2000 are kept away.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Had Galwan Clash, where India lost it's 20 soldiers, including a Lieutenant Colonel and got scores of soldiers injured and captured, by China, also some procurement problem?

Some things can’t be procured.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Hence, they fight Pak till the Last Afgan/Sherif/Zardari/Bajwa etc.....

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Mahraaaaazzzz i dont wana fly any jhaaaazzz

Wemaan!!!

Oh come on, you've been saying Pakistan has been falling apart and that india will take Pakistan, for the past 75 years now.

from

we will teach Pakistan a lesson

to

we will tell the Americans that Pakistan used F-16s on us

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

“It’s A Suicide Mission, Sir!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne​

“It’s A Suicide Mission, Sir!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne

Note: This article is based on leaked classified document on the investigation about the No. 51 Squadron of Indian Air Force & its performance against Pakistan Air Force on 27th February 2019 during Operation Swift Retort.

Pakistan Strategic Forum has been able to gain access to documents from inside the Indian Defense Ministry, which we verified as being authentic after an extensive digital forensic study and from corroborations from three different Indian military officials. The documents paint a damning story about the No. 51 Squadron’s performance and its pilot’s unwillingness to get airborne during the Pakistan Air Force’s Operation Swift Retort.

The documents seen by Pakistan Strategic Forum, which we have shared with Pakistani authorities and also sent to two media houses in India, are concerned with a three month long internal inquiry called on by the Indian Defense Ministry after fighter pilots assigned to the Srinagar-based No. 51 Squadron were “unwilling and unable to get airborne against the enemy during the PAF’s ingress into Indian territory”. The Indian MoD’s inquiry points to the exact time when the No. 51 squadron were tasked to scramble and fly towards their vectored sector, and the exact time Abhinandan’s sortie was taking-off, noticing a massive time difference of almost 30 minutes between the two events.

The inquiry’s internal documents go on to say that after multiple debriefs and extensive questioning of the squadron’s airmen, ground crew and pilots, that the board of inquiry “has established beyond reasonable doubt that the officers and pilots of the Srinagar AFS showed a complete lack of willingness to follow the given orders and this led to an imbalance in force ratio to Indian disadvantage at a decisive juncture in the events of that day, and led to the shooting down of Abhinandan’s jet”. Of course, the IAF officers conducting the inquiry forgot to mention how it was the superior strategy and tactics of Pakistani offensive counter-air units in the sky that led to that particular shoot down.

At least 7 different ground crew were able to state on record that the majority of pilots were already showing fear and unwillingness to be sent into the air after Indian Air Force were all alerted around 9:20 AM on the 27th of February 2019. One senior pilot in the squadron said that he hoped the IAF Western Command “would not be stupid enough” to send their R-77 armed MiG-21s to go fight the PAF’s F-16s and JF-17s calling it a “suicide mission”, and would rather send the better-equipped Mirage 2000s and Su-30MKIs.

This led to the pilots, gathered together in a briefing room at Srinagar Air Base, looking at each other uneasily and agreeing silently that this is the right decision. The pilots later debated on whether they should communicate to their superiors at the base about their feelings on the situation, portraying the recommendations as for the safety of pilots and the aircraft.

To their dismay, the orders came much earlier than they had expected and they were left with facing the uneasy prospect of going into the air against a superior adversary with almost no support from the other, more capable fighters in the IAF’s inventory.

The internal inquiry states that the IAF pilots were unwilling to take off primarily because they felt that they had inferior platforms, as well as lapses in planning. What the inquiry fails to say is that at that time, Indian Su-30MKIs in the area had already been heavily beaten back by Paksitani F-16s firing their AIM-120 missiles, hitting and shooting down one of them at around 9:32 AM. Similarly, two IAF Mirage 2000s in the area reported heavy interference in comms and jamming of their radars by the Pakistani JF-17A Thunder jets they were facing, and were requesting to return-to-base (RTB) fearing that if they got closer to the border the JF-17s might shoot them down.

The No. 51’s pilots knew this, and thus that became one of the main reasons that pilots were unwilling to go into their fighters and scramble to take off. The inquiry report even states that one of the pilots gave the excuse of a “stomach bug” and spent 40 minutes in the washrooms as the debate on whether to fly or not was ongoing between the pilots. Eventually after several heated orders coming from the base commander to get airborne, who himself was being lambasted by the commander of IAF Western Command, six pilots mustered up the courage to get into their jets and taxi to the runway.

The inquiry states that of these six, only five took off while one MiG-21 reported a technical issue with his engine thrust, rather conveniently appearing during the taxiing to the runway, and refused to take off, citing ‘safety issues’. Of the five that did took off, only two (one of which was Abhinandan) proceeded to fly to the sector they had been vectored to by their ground controllers, while one of their colleague remained flying further inside Indian airspace, and the other two flew CAPs over Srinagar AFS, all three technically disobeying direct orders to fly to the LOC and take on the PAF. Later, Abhinandan and his wingman were also heavily jammed as they came near the border, and due to this they could not access radar information or subsequent IAF ground controller’s orders to turn back because they could see only two Indian fighters were heading towards a heavy concentration of PAF fighter sweeps.

According to a former and currently serving Indian air force official that spoke to PSF under the condition of anonymity considering the sensitivity of the issue, said that in the next two minutes, things happened in rapid succession as Abhinandan’s wingman abandoned or left him and turned back, unknown to Abhinandan who thought he was being followed by his wingman and going to confront a single Pakistani Mirage III fighter-bomber.

All of his comms being jammed and with no air-intercept radar opportunities being available, he was unaware that he had, quite literally, no support assets at his disposal and he was being watched by Pakistani airborne early warning aircraft, being jammed by the PAF’s electronic warfare aircraft and was walking into a hornet’s nest. He was confronted by a F-16 fighter and his wingman, who shot a single AIM-120C missile at the MiG-21 Bison, whose old and malfunctioning radar warning receiver only began beeping when the missile was in the air and coming towards him, flowing hot at over Mach 2. He had no time to react and ejected as his plane was hit and shot down in a ball of flame. The rest, as they say, is history.

According to data available with Pakistan Strategic Forum, the Pakistani airstrikes began that day at around 9:25 AM local time, and Indian air defenses vectored the No. 51 squadron’s MiG-21s at the same time. The three MiG-21s took off from Srinagar AFS at 9:47 AM, raising serious questions on the lapses in training and chain-of-command at IAF, which ultimately led to this inquiry and its findings.

The inquiry also stated that the board recommends grounding 13 pilots and disbanding the squadron from IAF service. Later, under the excuse of a routine phase-out of the MiG-21 from the Indian Air Force, the squadron was disbanded from the Indian Air Force and will not be re-equipped with new fighters. This serious lapse also led to the commander of Indian Western Air Command being removed from his post, according to a serving Indian Air Force official that spoke to PSF on the topic during our investigation.

It seems the planned phase-out of the MiG-21 happened at just the right time and acted as a blessing-in-disguise for the already embarrassed Indian Air Force, saving face from an abysmal performance in the 2019 skirmishes with Pakistan. The No. 51 squadron was disbanded on the 30th of September 2022, and the grounded pilots are now being assigned menial posts in such branches as logistics and accounting in faraway Indian air stations.

“It’s A Suicide Mission, Sir!”: Indian Air Force Squadron Disbanded Due to Refusal By Pilots To Get Airborne

This article is based on leaked classified document on the investigation about the No. 51 Squadron of Indian Air Force & its performance against Pakistan Air Force on 27th February 2019 during Operation Swift Retort

pakstrategic.com

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What a brilliant propaganda article for Pakistani friends... Be happy, cheers..

Script surely deserved a Pakistani film and chances for block buster hit in Pakistan

 

[Imran Khan]

The inquiry report even states that one of the pilots gave the excuse of a “stomach bug” and spent 40 minutes in the washrooms as the debate on whether to fly or not was ongoing between the pilots.

 

[lightning F57]

I wouldnt be surprised if this turns out to be true. Would any pilot want to go up in the sky flying the famous flying coffins against superior aircraft, its a recipe for disaster. What is more worrying if this is true that IAF high command ignored that regardless and wanted their pilots up in the air anyway.

 

[SIPRA]

The inquiry report even states that one of the pilots gave the excuse of a “stomach bug” and spent 40 minutes in the washrooms as the debate on whether to fly or not was ongoing between the pilots.

That is why, in all future IAF aircrafts, pilot seat would be commode type, with flush system.

 

[TheSolution]

This is probably true but we should leave this encounter in the past now, there's no point of continuously trolling about the past when we actively face serious threats right now.

First secure your borders permanently, and bring peace, then celebrate and troll...