Israel’s global standing continues to sink, top strategists say

[hussain0216]

"Uncle Sam" is not an insult. It is a term of endearment for the United States.

Khanate, if I'm understanding you correctly, your claim is that the nations will fall away from Israel, because they have not fallen away from Israel - hence the arms package. Am I getting this right?

About 15% of the IDF's budget is American military aid. The IDF gets about a third of Israel's federal budget, so Israel could make up for the total loss of all American military aid by increasing taxes by 5%.

Israel can produce its own weapons. They have the IMI Tavor (arguably the best assault rifle in service today), the Merkava IV battle tank, the Eitan/Heron armed drones. Last but not least, Israel still has the blueprints for the IAI Lavi fighter jet gathering dust in a drawer somewhere. The Lavi is a vastly better aircraft than anything Pakistan or any other Islamic county could dream of obtaining in the next thirty years, and Israel doesn't even build it.

But all those nifty Western weapons are just "things". Israel's worldly strength is its people, its institutions. Generation after generation, Israel educates its people, goes through transitions of power, without civil wars, military coups, or importing know-how and exporting T-shirts, substitute foodstuffs and coolies.

http://www.cgdev.org/page/aid-pakistan-numbers



The reason Pakistan is able to waste money on obsolete weapons is because the West pays to feed your people. That's the sad truth.

You think merely because you declare yourselves the enemies of Israel, you are therefore at least our equals. Quite the contrary, that mentality is why you are losers and will remain so.


Most Israelis are Mizrahis, descended from Jews who have always lived in the Middle East and were expelled from the Arab states in the Nakba.

Arabs enjoy more rights in Israel than Jews. They have the right to join the IDF or not (for Jews it is mandatory), to visit the Palestinian Authority and Temple Mount (Jews are banned from both), to visit or move to any Arab state (also illegal for Jews), and they get affirmative action, preferential admission to Israeli universities.



Human rights are a secular, not Islamic concept.

Your implication here is that even you do not believe in your Quran. Even you must look to our belief system for answers. Even you know your cause is a lie.



The problem with your narrative is, it's nothing but anger, hate and lies.

Power comes and goes, sure. Your reasoning goes that Islam will get the power, through sheer hatred and numbers... but if power is purely cyclical, what does that prove?

I have shown you that your claims about Israel are not true. Even you know your lies about Israel are not true. Even you know your Islamic belief is false - that is why you instinctively appeal to the secular belief in "human rights". Even you know G-d will never let you win.

Why not just... give up the hate, change your outlook? What do you really gain from your evil?

its is the Khazara and Askhenazi jews who are the basis of the state of israel, the formulators of the zionist enterprise
Mizrahi are just number fillers who would still be living in their homelands if not for your crimes.

Arabs do not join the IDF because they hate it, jews fo not want Arabs to join the IDF (on conscription for example) because of the risk that the arabs will fight back and turn their guns on the jews and state that oppresses them

Arabs go to the Haram al Sharif because it is muslim holy site and muslim holy site alone


The right to resist occupation is part of humanity at its deepest level.
The right to resist millions of white people who pretend to be more middle eastern then the middle easterners engorcing a colonial apartheid enterprise upon a brown local populace is guarantee

The muslim world will rise to protect its own people
Just like the Europeans went through the dark ages, the muslim world will find its voice and its power
its not based on hatred but the survival of our people


All you have done is proven my feeling about Israel and jews are 100% correct, you will never get peace and your evil will not succeed

The crusaders occupied Palestine for 100 years and we did not give up
why should we give up against jews after 70?
we will grow, we will improve and we will get justice for the abuses and oppression you have subjugated the Palestinians too

Are you saying Arab / Muslim states design their own weapons and don't get aid?

Are you saying the US designed the Uzi, Tavor and Merkava?

What does it profit you to hate on Israel? Why bother?

Let's get back to my question. Does anyone really think that knife murderers will gain global standing superior to the Jewish state?

Why bother?

Why hate and take on Naziism?
A- Because its the right thing to do


You enforced injustice upon a muslim population, our brothers and sisters.

Why DO YOU think we should abandon them?

 

[Aestu]

its is the Khazara and Askhenazi jews who are the basis of the state of israel, the formulators of the zionist enterprise Mizrahi are just number fillers who would still be living in their homelands if not for your crimes.

Do you see your brother Muslims the same way?

Arabs go to the Haram al Sharif because it is muslim holy site and muslim holy site alone

Do you deny the reign of King Suleiman as attested by the Quran?

The right to resist millions of white people who pretend to be more middle eastern then the middle easterners engorcing a colonial apartheid enterprise upon a brown local populace is guarantee

Do you believe the Europeans have the right to murder Pakistani migrants?

The muslim world will rise to protect its own people Just like the Europeans went through the dark ages, the muslim world will find its voice and its power its not based on hatred but the survival of our people All you have done is proven my feeling about Israel and jews are 100% correct, you will never get peace and your evil will not succeed The crusaders occupied Palestine for 100 years and we did not give up why should we give up against jews after 70? we will grow, we will improve and we will get justice for the abuses and oppression you have subjugated the Palestinians too

Except... that is not true. Arabs live much better in Israel than they do in Pakistan.

You want the Ummah to survive. Fine. How does murdering the Jews achieve that goal? Isn't it more logical to believe that your hatred will lead to your total destruction?

Why hate and take on Naziism? A- Because its the right thing to do You enforced injustice upon a muslim population, our brothers and sisters. Why DO YOU think we should abandon them?

Because you already have.

Israeli Arabs live much better than any Arabs in any non-petrostate. What do you make of that? Do you care?

 

[jamal18]

Getting billions of dollars in aid every years doesn't constitute as "turning against Jews".

During the last Gaza invasion, the Israelis ran out of aircraft bombs. The US has a large stockpile of American munitions it keeps stockpiled in Israel. The US of course obliged. The last load of bombs that fell on the Palestinians weren't just made in the US, they were actually stamped 'Property of the US.'

 

[Aestu]

During the last Gaza invasion, the Israelis ran out of aircraft bombs. The US has a large stockpile of American munitions it keeps stockpiled in Israel. The US of course obliged. The last load of bombs that fell on the Palestinians weren't just made in the US, they were actually stamped 'Property of the US.'

So why were only 2,000 Gazans killed?