Israeli Excavation Reveals New Findings About the Ark of the Covenant

[Solomon2]

and why is that in yr eyes?

Because your question shows everyone you associate truth not with facts but with authority. So for you there is no god, just man - the rest is whitewash.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Because your question shows everyone you associate truth not with facts but with authority. So for you there is no god, just man - the rest is whitewash.

prove it!

That might be true for u since yr a followers of a severely corrupted religion that too is very obsolete in the modern era, unlike Islam which is valid till end of times and is for whole of humanity, unlike yr own judaism who was send to israelis and was valid till Prophet Essa came.

still u havnt answered how Islam had forced conversions or it tried its best to conquer the world?

@Dubious @Horus @WebMaster check this guy.

 

[sammuel]

i need to remind u again that yr a jew, ...and on top of it yr commenting on our Muslim Forum..

Was not aware that members here where required to be Muslim in order to write on this forum.

Thought it was more international based forum with different countries representation - hence the different flags .

I did not see a requirement here for members to declare their religion ...

But i see you understand things differently.

 

[Hack-Hook]

who told u that Muslims tried their best to conquer the world and tried to convert everybody into Islam?

Well , in time Muslims did the best they could .

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Well , in time Muslims did the best they could .

hahaha kid! if we ever did, we could have done it by simply wiping out non Muslims from the face of the earth!

We always had enough juice to do so! and thats true even today, just look at the cavemen like Taliban being able to defeat 49 countries alliance in Afghanistan

They are not any warrior or marshall race, and on top of it are afraid of dying, while we are completely opposite to them!

Was not aware that members here where required to be Muslim in order to write on this forum.

Thought it was more international based forum with different countries representation - hence the different flags .

I did not see a requirement here for members to declare their religion ...

But i see you understand things differently.

and why didnt u answered mine post that i wrote in reply to u rather then cleverly replaying to a post that wasnt even addressed at u to begin with?

Im yet to see yr answer of where and how us Muslims had done forced conversations and conquered the world or had any desire for it?

 

[Hack-Hook]

hahaha kid! if we ever did, we could have done it by simply wiping out non Muslims from the face of the earth!

We always had enough juice to do so! and thats true even today, just look at the cavemen like Taliban being able to defeat 49 countries alliance in Afghanistan

Well we believe that alliance of 49 nation didn't destroyed Taliban because if they did that then they had no reason for keeping their presence there . And don't forget Taliban was their own creation .

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Well we believe that alliance of 49 nation didn't destroyed Taliban because if they did that then they had no reason for keeping their presence there . And don't forget Taliban was their own creation .

more like lame excuses really! Fact of the matter still remains, where did we Muslims tried to conquer the whole world and where did we tried any forced conversion?

 

[KAL-EL]

Raiders of the Lost Ark?

 

[Hack-Hook]

more like lame excuses really! Fact of the matter still remains, where did we Muslims tried to conquer the whole world and where did we tried any forced conversion?

Muslim Othman tried to conquer europe n Muslims abbaside tried to conquer Europe and Asia and Africa . Muslim Taymor tried to conquer all world . at the time of Omar Muslim AttackedRome and Iran . how many times Muslims attacked India ?
I wonder what's the discussion here every empire who had power tried to expand . Aztec did that ,China did that Egypt did that . iran did that Rome did that holy empire did that Spain and England did that Germany did that France did that Jews did that . please show me who didn't do that when they had the power .

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Muslim Othman tried to conquer europe n Muslims abbaside tried to conquer Europe and Asia and Africa . Muslim Taymor tried to conquer all world . at the time of Omar Muslim AttackedRome and Iran . how many times Muslims attacked India ?
I wonder what's the discussion here every empire who had power tried to expand . Aztec did that ,China did that Egypt did that . iran did that Rome did that holy empire did that Spain and England did that Germany did that France did that . please show me who didn't do that when they had the power .

And for yr kind info...im an Abbasi myself, whose ancestors shifted in Pakistan in 13/14th century when mongols, the real ones who tried to conquer the world destroyed Baghdad our Abbasid Empire's Capital.......And on top of it im now a full naturalized Pakistani citizen.

The era of Hazrat Umer was the greatest era of Muslim empire, an empire that became the benchmark for a welfare state and that too in a state that was spread across 64000 sq km.....

It wasnt us Muslims who conquered out of lust of power as yr trying to project here, it was because we Muslims had always been invited to liberate the areas where tyrands used to rule, and those areas wherent always of non Muslim rulers but of Muslim rulers as well. Ever wondered why Ameer Taimoor conquered Hindustan? or why Khawaja Moin ud Din Chistie, the great saint of South Asia invited, infact wrote a letter to Hijaj bin Yousuf the ruler of then Persian Empire to send an army to defeat the Raja Dahir, the tyrant ruler of Sindh in Pakistan and liberate the people the local hindus of that time in 8th century AD? And do u even know that he had send an army led by just a 17 years old Mohammad Bin Qassim?, who defeated Raja Dahir and stayed here for just 4 years till law and order was reestablished and returned back along with his army? And when he was returning, the local hindus were so impressed with him and his non partisan justice that they were worshipping him by building his idols? Mohammad Bin Qasim's army was the first Muslim army that crossed the indus river to get into what has always been called Hind or Al Hind or its farsi pronunciation; hindustan, land of hindus and he had conquered that today is the entire Sindh province of Pakistan?

And now as an Abbasi (A man with an Arab background), dont get me started as why did we fought with Europe and as to why Hazrat Umer conquered today's Iran to begin with? and who was that Shehenshah who tore the letters of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and for what reasons? Lets not forget the old majoosi Persian Empire was amongst the worst performing Empires when it came to justice, and for the well being of the humanity in general(remember how women used to be brought all over the world as sex slaves and used to be auctioned in markets? thats just one example i will give to remind u). As a Muslim, we are given responsibility to protect the justice and well being of Humanity regardless of country, class, creed or religions...as they are all the creation of Allah just like us and Allah loves them as much as he loves us.....Its just that we Muslims are its nayab, his representatives who r given a responsibility by Allah himself to protect the weak people amongst us relargless of whatever they believe in as a religion, to ensure justice and truth prevails so that the humanity as a whole could grow and get closer to Allah All Mighty.....This is what Allah wants from us as Muslims, as the followers of a path set by he himself. We have no choice but to follow it as the people who have submitted their will to Allah all mighty, we are like his slaves who have no will of their own but their master's.

Now coming back to it, That age old Persian pride and arrogance is something we all remember to this day, and that made that Shehenshah tear the letters of Allah's last and final Prophet PBUH and Allah made his empire torn into pieces same way, an empire of which he had so much pride and was his reason for arrogance.

Well dont u guys in Iran are taught the Islamic history at all? or is it all abt that Khomeini and pasdaran e inqilab all the time? This is a general knowledge that every Muslim in this earth is supposed to know from day 1 and must be clear on what Allah wants from him and whats his purpose to be born as a Muslim on this earth?

Im frankly shocked and baffled at yr ignoance and on top of it u believe in that age old non muslim propaganda that Islam is spread by sword and shit, even though it had been debunked a billion times already.

 

[Tshering22]

No judiasm or christianity existed. There was and is only one religion that is Islam. It is the people who make different names of their religions as per geography and persons

Yeah. Right.

And Christians and Jews here would disagree with you.

 

[Pakistani sipahi]

Bs , converted Jew is a Jew the thing is there where very few intrested in converting. A Jew had to follow 613 commandments who in thier right mind would volunteer to something like that .



You know character of all Jews ? in other words YOU ARE A RACIST !

I don't need any lectures from a nation which is based on racism considering themselves as the highest race and others as nothing. It doesn't suite you guys speaking on racism .

Regarding your conversion claim give me some proof from your religious scriptures so that i could increase my knowledge in this subject.

 

[Timur]

I am sure you will agree that Christianity and Judaism were way before Islam in this world

no you have not the proper understanding of what muslim means.. Moses is a muslim as we are and jesus is a muslim as we are.. david solomon abraham are all muslims too.. we belong to the same faith of one god and are called muslims or belivers..

the todays shirky version of chrisitans for excample are something thats totally in an other sphere than what we are talking about the followers of Isa..

 

[Metanoia]

And for yr kind info...im an Abbasi myself, whose ancestors shifted in Pakistan in 13/14th century when mongols, the real ones who tried to conquer the world destroyed Baghdad our Abbasid Empire's Capital.......And on top of it im now a full naturalized Pakistani citizen.

The era of Hazrat Umer was the greatest era of Muslim empire, an empire that became the benchmark for a welfare state and that too in a state that was spread across 64000 sq km.....

It wasnt us Muslims who conquered out of lust of power as yr trying to project here, it was because we Muslims had always been invited to liberate the areas where tyrands used to rule, and those areas wherent always of non Muslim rulers but of Muslim rulers as well. Ever wondered why Ameer Taimoor conquered Hindustan? or why Khawaja Moin ud Din Chistie, the great saint of South Asia invited, infact wrote a letter to Hijaj bin Yousuf the ruler of then Persian Empire to send an army to defeat the Raja Dahir, the tyrant ruler of Sindh in Pakistan and liberate the people the local hindus of that time in 8th century AD? And do u even know that he had send an army led by just a 17 years old Mohammad Bin Qassim?, who defeated Raja Dahir and stayed here for just 4 years till law and order was reestablished and returned back along with his army? And when he was returning, the local hindus were so impressed with him and his non partisan justice that they were worshipping him by building his idols? Mohammad Bin Qasim's army was the first Muslim army that crossed the indus river to get into what has always been called Hind or Al Hind or its farsi pronunciation; hindustan, land of hindus and he had conquered that today is the entire Sindh province of Pakistan?

And now as an Abbasi (A man with an Arab background), dont get me started as why did we fought with Europe and as to why Hazrat Umer conquered today's Iran to begin with? and who was that Shehenshah who tore the letters of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and for what reasons? Lets not forget the old majoosi Persian Empire was amongst the worst performing Empires when it came to justice, and for the well being of the humanity in general(remember how women used to be brought all over the world as sex slaves and used to be auctioned in markets? thats just one example i will give to remind u). As a Muslim, we are given responsibility to protect the justice and well being of Humanity regardless of country, class, creed or religions...as they are all the creation of Allah just like us and Allah loves them as much as he loves us.....Its just that we Muslims are its nayab, his representatives who r given a responsibility by Allah himself to protect the weak people amongst us relargless of whatever they believe in as a religion, to ensure justice and truth prevails so that the humanity as a whole could grow and get closer to Allah All Mighty.....This is what Allah wants from us as Muslims, as the followers of a path set by he himself. We have no choice but to follow it as the people who have submitted their will to Allah all mighty, we are like his slaves who have no will of their own but their master's.

Now coming back to it, That age old Persian pride and arrogance is something we all remember to this day, and that made that Shehenshah tear the letters of Allah's last and final Prophet PBUH and Allah made his empire torn into pieces same way, an empire of which he had so much pride and was his reason for arrogance.

Well dont u guys in Iran are taught the Islamic history at all? or is it all abt that Khomeini and pasdaran e inqilab all the time? This is a general knowledge that every Muslim in this earth is supposed to know from day 1 and must be clear on what Allah wants from him and whats his purpose to be born as a Muslim on this earth?

Im frankly shocked and baffled at yr ignoance and on top of it u believe in that age old non muslim propaganda that Islam is spread by sword and shit, even though it had been debunked a billion times already.

lol

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

And for yr kind info...im an Abbasi myself, whose ancestors shifted in Pakistan in 13/14th century when mongols, the real ones who tried to conquer the world destroyed Baghdad our Abbasid Empire's Capital.......And on top of it im now a full naturalized Pakistani citizen.

The era of Hazrat Umer was the greatest era of Muslim empire, an empire that became the benchmark for a welfare state and that too in a state that was spread across 64000 sq km.....

It wasnt us Muslims who conquered out of lust of power as yr trying to project here, it was because we Muslims had always been invited to liberate the areas where tyrands used to rule, and those areas wherent always of non Muslim rulers but of Muslim rulers as well. Ever wondered why Ameer Taimoor conquered Hindustan? or why Khawaja Moin ud Din Chistie, the great saint of South Asia invited, infact wrote a letter to Hijaj bin Yousuf the ruler of then Persian Empire to send an army to defeat the Raja Dahir, the tyrant ruler of Sindh in Pakistan and liberate the people the local hindus of that time in 8th century AD? And do u even know that he had send an army led by just a 17 years old Mohammad Bin Qassim?, who defeated Raja Dahir and stayed here for just 4 years till law and order was reestablished and returned back along with his army? And when he was returning, the local hindus were so impressed with him and his non partisan justice that they were worshipping him by building his idols? Mohammad Bin Qasim's army was the first Muslim army that crossed the indus river to get into what has always been called Hind or Al Hind or its farsi pronunciation; hindustan, land of hindus and he had conquered that today is the entire Sindh province of Pakistan?

And now as an Abbasi (A man with an Arab background), dont get me started as why did we fought with Europe and as to why Hazrat Umer conquered today's Iran to begin with? and who was that Shehenshah who tore the letters of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and for what reasons? Lets not forget the old majoosi Persian Empire was amongst the worst performing Empires when it came to justice, and for the well being of the humanity in general(remember how women used to be brought all over the world as sex slaves and used to be auctioned in markets? thats just one example i will give to remind u). As a Muslim, we are given responsibility to protect the justice and well being of Humanity regardless of country, class, creed or religions...as they are all the creation of Allah just like us and Allah loves them as much as he loves us.....Its just that we Muslims are its nayab, his representatives who r given a responsibility by Allah himself to protect the weak people amongst us relargless of whatever they believe in as a religion, to ensure justice and truth prevails so that the humanity as a whole could grow and get closer to Allah All Mighty.....This is what Allah wants from us as Muslims, as the followers of a path set by he himself. We have no choice but to follow it as the people who have submitted their will to Allah all mighty, we are like his slaves who have no will of their own but their master's.

Now coming back to it, That age old Persian pride and arrogance is something we all remember to this day, and that made that Shehenshah tear the letters of Allah's last and final Prophet PBUH and Allah made his empire torn into pieces same way, an empire of which he had so much pride and was his reason for arrogance.

Well dont u guys in Iran are taught the Islamic history at all? or is it all abt that Khomeini and pasdaran e inqilab all the time? This is a general knowledge that every Muslim in this earth is supposed to know from day 1 and must be clear on what Allah wants from him and whats his purpose to be born as a Muslim on this earth?

Im frankly shocked and baffled at yr ignoance and on top of it u believe in that age old non muslim propaganda that Islam is spread by sword and shit, even though it had been debunked a billion times already.

In Iran we have no time for arab/islamic fantasy stories (arrogant rashidun and umayad empire together did not last more than 110 years and mongols rolled arrogant abbasid empire up with support of Shia persians and Armenian dynasty which was descent of Iranian kings).

Why the hell should we follow arab teachings in Iran? This perrversion of history and islamic propaganda is only alive among some backward tribal societies in central and South east Asian countries not in Iran, neither in Turkey.