Israeli Air Force Gears up to Strike Iran.

[Cyrus the Great]

Backward Country like India, Excuse me sir, but if your country can not produce good enough politicians nonetheless entrepreneurs and scientists then i wouldn't call Iran a developed country. Chest thumping and threatening to take out Israel from world map. Crazy mullahs are taking you for a ride and yes you patriotic yet gullible audience conveniently sitting outside Iran wants to shed blood of his fellow countrymen and enjoy the show with popcorn.

China WILL backoff from Iran support. PAPA Russia is all you got and if this backward country asks soviet bear to cut all ties with Iran, you will be all alone home boy.

You have pissed off whole west, don't add another 1 billion of mankind to it.

oh... thanks for teaching something to Iranian. this Mullah you are talking about never failed in history even when they were not in power the reason of most of Iran victories were them.
thanks to you for your trying to teach but without honor in your pass you have nothing to teach Iran, you just think Iran rely to someone as you used too.at least from 700 years ago Iran had no ally and used to stand on itself. the last expamle is Iraq and Iran war. Iran was alone and Iraq with all support from US, Soviet ,EU, and all arabs.
teach Iranian if you have honorable

regards

 

[Cyrus the Great]

it does not matter Iranian like Ahmadinejad or not, but no doubt they will fight with their enemies. you are slave of western media, because nobody talk in west how Israeil leader park against Iran, only you caste Iran responds to Israeil, and you guy repeatedly are talking about Ahmadibejad big month, may Iranian dont like this big but is good to responds to another bigger mouth

 

[Cyrus the Great]

Remember that if Isreal attacks Iran, Iran will solely be responsible for the war.No one asked Irans president to open his big mouth and make stupid statements.

it does not matter Iranian like Ahmadinejad or not, but no doubt they will fight with their enemies. you are slave of western media, because nobody talk in west how Israeil leader park against Iran, only you caste Iran responds to Israeil, and you guy repeatedly are talking about Ahmadibejad big month, may Iranian dont like this big but is good to responds to another bigger mouth

 

[gambit]

Our opinion of whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter as Iran has clearly said it will attack countries aiding and housing US troops in the region.

Why would Iran attacked those countries that hosted US forces? Because the Iranian leadership believe that it is 'wrong' for any muslims to side with us infidels. Osama bin Laden believe it is 'wrong' for any infidel to have any stay anywhere in the ME. So our opinion on if whatever is 'right' or 'wrong' matter very much. It give us compelling reasons to act and to justify those actions.

That's your opinion, personally in my opinion Shia leader/generals are known not to lie or exaggerate, just ask Israel about Syed Hassan Nasrullah and his ability to back up what he says with actions.

Iranian generals could be in error in their assessments of forces but that does not mean they are liars. Delusional may be, but perhaps not willing liars. The belief that Iran can seize and control the Strait of Hormuz for the duration of any conflict is delusional. The belief that Iran can 'handle' the US Navy is delusional. But they are not lies.

That's the vast amount of Arabs for you but 99% is definitely an exaggeration on your part. I'm sure the 60% of Iraq along with most citizens in Bahrain, East of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria and Southern Lebanon would be delighted with a nuclear Iran.

And what of those no less significant amount who do not? Despots do not like competition. A nuclear Iran will create a nuclear arms race in the ME.

I have never stated the Iraqi military never had soviet weaponry. Seriously please, everyone knows very well how America armed Saddam to the teeth with weapons albeit by diverting them through other Arab puppet regimes that would go onto transfer them to Iraq. Weapons including Howitzers, Huey helicopters, Aircraft ships chemical and biological weapon you gave to Saddam to stop the Iranian onslaught that killed hundreds of thousands of Iranian troops as well as ordinary Iraqi civilians.

Whenever I see the phrase 'everyone knows' I know the argument has no evidence. Please...Do not confuse a few pieces with deployed regiments and/or squadrons. The phrase 'everyone knows' is an appeal to vanity. Most people do not want to be perceived as ignorant so whenever they hear or read someone posit 'everyone knows' they would prefer to keep their ignorance to themselves. They want to appear knowledgeable and wise. I have no problems admitting my ignorance in any subject. So if you sincerely believe that the US armed Iraq then by all means show the readership Iraqi units that are wholly US arms equipped.

 

[Nima]

it does not matter Iranian like Ahmadinejad or not, but no doubt they will fight with their enemies. you are slave of western media, because nobody talk in west how Israeil leader park against Iran, only you caste Iran responds to Israeil, and you guy repeatedly are talking about Ahmadibejad big month, may Iranian dont like this big but is good to responds to another bigger mouth

true
I fuckin hate the Islamic republic but I will die defending them on the front lines against an aggressor
This is Iran not some newly made country or some arab American colony
bring it on

 

[gambit]

true
I fuckin hate the Islamic republic but I will die defending them on the front lines against an aggressor
This is Iran not some newly made country or some arab American colony
bring it on

Even against internal ones?

 

[Nima]

Even against internal ones?

wow you're dumb
I am their enemy so I would die defending them against myself?
or are you suggesting that there are internal guerrilla groups against the govt? which there is none. The PKK, Jundollah, MEK etc... are all American/Israeli backed, trained and funded. They also operate outside Iran's borders. And if you're talking about them then yes, I wouldn't hesitate putting a bullet in the back of a terrorists brain.

All these pro reform people you see in the street will drop their green flags and take an AK to defend their country when the day comes.

 

[gambit]

wow you're dumb
I am their enemy so I would die defending them against myself?
or are you suggesting that there are internal guerrilla groups against the govt? which there is none. The PKK, Jundollah, MEK etc... are all American/Israeli backed, trained and funded. They also operate outside Iran's borders. And if you're talking about them then yes, I wouldn't hesitate putting a bullet in the back of a terrorists brain.

All these pro reform people you see in the street will drop their green flags and take an AK to defend their country when the day comes.

There are so many examples in history, modern or not, when a government is no longer representative of the people it rule over and that line is when that government violently turned against the people when the people demanded change from what they see and believe as incompatible with their current attitudes. Is the antagonism against Israel the general sentiment of the Iranian populace or is it of the mullahs'? That antagonism contributed to the animosity between Iran and Israel. Is it yours?

 

[zagahaga]

WoW You Truly are a Battle Field Commander!!!!
In those 10 seconds, when those thoughts were going through your head, a thought of using a 'Spell Check' never occurred?

was very high when i did that

 

[Nima]

There are so many examples in history, modern or not, when a government is no longer representative of the people it rule over and that line is when that government violently turned against the people when the people demanded change from what they see and believe as incompatible with their current attitudes. Is the antagonism against Israel the general sentiment of the Iranian populace or is it of the mullahs'? That antagonism contributed to the animosity between Iran and Israel. Is it yours?

"when a government is no longer representative of the people"

true, this govt no longer represents the Iranian ppl

"Is the antagonism against Israel the general sentiment of the Iranian populace or is it of the mullahs'?"

ppl generally love Americans and Western culture but Israel the reaction is mixed. In general people will tell you "Iran before Israel and Palestine."
lets just say people hate arabs more than jews.

" That antagonism contributed to the animosity between Iran and Israel. Is it yours?"
no it is not




you said nothing that changed my previous comment.
Iranians will die defending the very govt they hate against invaders.

 

[Kompromat]

Gambit:

What would be the effects of destroyed (If Israel does) Atomic Reactors , talking specificly about Radiation.

 

[gambit]

Gambit:

What would be the effects of destroyed (If Israel does) Atomic Reactors , talking specificly about Radiation.

Focusing on the radiation is misleading. There are many crucial stages of uranium refinement that if destroyed, will retard the progress of nuclear weapons development for many years.

Maraging steel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maraging steel production, import, and export by certain states, such as the United States,[2] is closely monitored by international authorities because it is particularly suited for use in gas centrifuges for uranium enrichment; lack of maraging steel significantly hampers this process. Older centrifuges used aluminum tubes; modern ones, carbon fiber composite.

The centrifuges for mass refinement look like these...

Since Iran is using the centrifuge method, destroying or even damaging the chamber housing the rows of centrifuge can set Iran back for years. Iran probably have a very good stock of these alloys by now after all these years but still will have to be like Iraq and go deeper underground black market to buy more as this is the only kind that can withstand the rotational stresses produced by 50k+ rpm.

The centrifuges in these stages, aka cascades, must not be disturbed by tectonics once installed, meaning they must be on a vibration free installation, just like my semiconductor equipments. This is why having these chambers underground is no guarantee as 'bunkerbuster' bombs can create sufficient tremblors to knock a considerable number of them out of alignment. Any activities to repair them would undoubtedly trigger satellite surveillance, making them still at risk for more attacks. Bunkerbuster bombs can also make the chambers impassable for a long time and the longer these centrifuges stayed damaged or out of alignment, the greater the difficulty and time for repairs, for individual units and per cascade. Purchases for materials and equipments for repairs would also be noticed and pressures applied to suppliers to stop them from selling to Iran, another type of set back.

This is far from comprehensive that what airstrikes can do to retard Iranian nuclear weapons development.

 

[Thomas]

Gambit:

What would be the effects of destroyed (If Israel does) Atomic Reactors , talking specificly about Radiation.

you have only to look at Chernobyl to see an example. If it wasn't for the heroics of Russian soldiers and firemen. The disaster would have been far worse. They were able to put a seal on the reactor fairly fast. Which by the way is still an ongoing process today.

 

[Hussein]

France and USA gave that fag chemical weapons which killed 100K IRanians (kurds and soldiers).

Nima jan,
See your dedicated to our country
About France and USA they didn'"t sell chemical weapons to Sadam on that time
Germany was doing it.

If you check the weapons selt to Sadam at this time you'll see that USA sell far far less than Russia !
USA and France were selling some but it is nothing compared to some other countries.

About war, i have an uncle who created sepah unit and well known in Iran (not saying his name for you know safe reasons). He died during war . War was terrible. We don't want that anymore. The people like us who lived it they didn't want this horror.
Furthermore the people who created the sepah warriors , included basiji, are not at all the same minded people who are now leading them.

See Ahmadinejad was never on the field.

Remember after war (saying it for non iranian people here)
remember that they were trying to take out the weapons froml the basiji to safe the country (many rubery and violence) . remember some of thme hardely convinced.
my uncle's wife didn't wear even scarf at home and our family never accepted this obligation .
remember how they changed after war. remember khomeini himself said he didn't want political activity from basiji and sepah. now you see how it is respected. thanks to khamenei and especially hashemi.
remember how they entered business now.

don't know if situation can be solved in Iran.
sepah was hero. sepah is becoming a problem sadly.

you know what? our young people will leave the countr when they can. and guess it would never change Iran.
sorry for pessimistic day

 

[Cyrus the Great]

There are so many examples in history, modern or not, when a government is no longer representative of the people it rule over and that line is when that government violently turned against the people when the people demanded change from what they see and believe as incompatible with their current attitudes. Is the antagonism against Israel the general sentiment of the Iranian populace or is it of the mullahs'? That antagonism contributed to the animosity between Iran and Israel. Is it yours?

are you trying to say that you know Iranian better than they know themselves?