Israel tests new missile with range beyond Iran, aimed at striking Pakistan

[HannibalBarca]

That's not my answer and not every but most of it

Give me one that can move/dictate what he wishes without the need to ask?

 

[Ultima Thule]

According to our Islamic belief... the next time the Ummah are entirely united... it's with the Mahdi...
But when it comes to Muslims ... Arabs thought to be the only one with such "Title" till the Turks came around...

There hadith that near end of time Arabs will be gone (destroy by some force)

I, as an Arab, per exemple wouldn't mind giving my Allegiance to an Asian, if he does answer to such conditions... And I wouldn't give my allegiance to an Arab or a Turk who do not answer such conditions...

Islam believes in equality, and ARABs is not superior then rest of the Muslim world

 

[HannibalBarca]

That Mahdi will come from Arab as well , why can't a non Arab take lead in Islam ? We all know how the Turk Khliafa ended right ?

Many non Arab took the lead in Islam... Never it says ONLY Arabs will lead every time...
Ottomans ended like any previous Empires... whatever under Arab rule or not...

Why the predictions were also about the Arabs been always on top ? If Arab and Ajam are equals why not a single leading role was predicted to a non Arab ? Did Allah make Arabs as Superior ? and if so wouldn't that make the whole religion vague , I didn't chose to be born a Asian or Chinese or American or Arab ?
right to rule wasn't even given to Ansar after Prophets death .. and we know why .

I think you are confused... Where did you get that Arabs will be always on Top? Allah gave every Ethnicity it's hour of Glory... Your forefathers are the witness... you weren't ruled by Arabs...
An Arab is not Superior to a Non-Arab...
We do not chose... But some people may be having a destiny that we may wish to have... Everything got it's own wisdom behind it...
It wasn't given to the Ansar because Some Companions were more suitable for that job...
It doesn't matter what you are... if you are suitable for the job then you should take it... but if you not then you shouldn't... whatever your ethnicity...

Bro, Not even countries like Algeria or Morocco and its Arab wont accept a Chinese or Pakistani Khalifa , lets not fool ourselves, Arabs will always have that superiority complex which will always comes in a way to pick a leadership on merit and qualification or Character , As someone once told me ( unfortunately a Pakistani ) that even a worse Arab is better than a great Pakistan for Khilafat .
Islam can never be united with the current teaching which are widely accepted, cause if think deep Islam has no concept of Equality but an Arab Superiority.

Muslims accepted many type of Khalifas... they weren't all Arabs...
Some Arabs may have that superiority complex... Some... like many Desi having superiority complex over other ethnicities... like Many Chinese having superiority complex over others etc...
Whoever told you that, do not know well/correctly his History... or/and Deen.

Islam teach that no one is Superior except in the Deen... Islam negate what push Ibliss to what he is today... When he thought to be superior to Adam...

There hadith that near end of time Arabs will be gone (destroy by some force)

Islam believes in equality, and ARABs is not superior then rest of the Muslim world

No HAdith speak of End of Arabs... When the End get close... The Muslim world will fall into a fitna... That would destroy/kill a great numbers of us... till... The Mahdi appear... and Muslims will stop their conflict/war...

Yes Islam believes in Equality... Arabs ARE NOT superior to others... NO Human is superior to another except in it's Deen.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Many non Arab took the lead in Islam... Never it says ONLY Arabs will lead every time...
Ottomans ended like any previous Empires... whatever under Arab rule or not...

How many have the consensuses of All the Muslims ? Ottoman Khliafat to this date is contested, and even in that time Many of the Arabs refused to fight under the Turks .
You missed the point, I mean that we all know how Ottomans ended how the Arabs Betrayed the Khilafat .
Truth is that except the 4 Rashidun Caliphs all others have a section of Muslim following , but many still contest their titles because of non Arab Lineage .

I think you are confused... Where did you get that Arabs will be always on Top? Allah gave every Ethnicity it's hour of Glory... Your forefathers are the witness... you weren't ruled by Arabs...
An Arab is not Superior to a Non-Arab...
We do not chose... But some people may be having a destiny that we may wish to have... Everything got it's own wisdom behind it...
It wasn't given to the Ansar because Some Companions were more suitable for that job...
It doesn't matter what you are... if you are suitable for the job then you should take it... but if you not then you shouldn't... whatever your ethnicity...

The concept of Mehdi, a Savior to Muslims that will come from Arabs .. All the end times incidents revolve around the Arabs, and rest of the Muslims will be used as No offense but canon fodders to fight Jihad or become water boys in Lashkers .
I am not denying Allah give Glory to all, but today the Islam is Arabized, and as you were among the people who see ummah revive it was for those , Arabs of this time or future will never accept a non Arab leader over them, dude as a Pakistani i can't even stay in Mecca/Medina once my visa expires lol
Not just that, one of the reason to give Abu Bakr the leadership cause he was from Mecca . The leadership has to be kept in Quresh and Mecca .
Unfortunately , in Today world/Ummah/Islam your ethnicity matters . You are not seeing the reality bro .

Muslims accepted many type of Khalifas... they weren't all Arabs...

All of them were contested and hardly accepted by Arabs .

Some Arabs may have that superiority complex... Some... like many Desi having superiority complex over other ethnicities... like Many Chinese having superiority complex over others etc...

Of course, but here the matter if off who will lead the Muslims ? on Merit neither KSA nor Iran is suitable for job , I'd say none of country is . Truth is if a Non Arab country declare Khilafat the first countries to stand against that Caliph will be Muslims .

Whoever told you that, do not know well/correctly his History... or/and Deen.

It doesn't matter, what matters is what he said is true, these poor Pakistani who jump on concept of Ummah will be treated as 3rd grade citizen if there is a Khilafat appears . haven't you heard that Indian Muslims were used as servants, and most of them were given jobs as washing dishes under ISIS , lol even a terrorists group has this racial bias .

Islam teach that no one is Superior except in the Deen... Islam negate what push Ibliss to what he is today... When he thought to be superior to Adam...

And that Islam Lost right after the death of Prophet .. Abu bakr Face Riddah wars , Umar was assassinated and his problems with Khalid Al Walid , Uthman was killed by the Muslims that include son of Abu Bakr , Ali had to fight with Prophets Wife ..

Yes Islam believes in Equality... Arabs ARE NOT superior to others... NO Human is superior to another except in it's Deen.

Islam does, Muslims don't .. Ummah is comprised of Muslims, Subjects and as long as we have Muslims we will never be able bring back the concept of Ummah or what Muhammad pbuh foresee .

 

[HannibalBarca]

How many have the consensuses of All the Muslims ? Ottoman Khliafat to this date is contested, and even in that time Many of the Arabs refused to fight under the Turks .
You missed the point, I mean that we all know how Ottomans ended how the Arabs Betrayed the Khilafat .
Truth is that except the 4 Rashidun Caliphs all others have a section of Muslim following , but many still contest their titles because of non Arab Lineage .

The Beginning and the End will be fully Under Unity... Everything inbtw will not...whatever under Arabs or not...
Many Arabs refused...Many more accepted.
The Ottoman fall was needed... Ottoman Empire didn't fall bc of Arabs... they came to the same challenges of those before them and like those one... they couldn't deal with them... If the Arabs didn't make their little thing... Then be sure that today... Mohammeds will be called Pierre/George... Whatever some may see it as a betrayal or not... It came at the last years of it's death... and kept those lands under "Muslim" rule...

The concept of Mehdi, a Savior to Muslims that will come from Arabs .. All the end times incidents revolve around the Arabs, and rest of the Muslims will be used as No offense but canon fodders to fight Jihad or become water boys in Lashkers .
I am not denying Allah give Glory to all, but today the Islam is Arabized, and as you were among the people who see ummah revive it was for those , Arabs of this time or future will never accept a non Arab leader over them, dude as a Pakistani i can't even stay in Mecca/Medina once my visa expires lol
Not just that, one of the reason to give Abu Bakr the leadership cause he was from Mecca . The leadership has to be kept in Quresh and Mecca .
Unfortunately , in Today world/Ummah/Islam your ethnicity matters . You are not seeing the reality bro .

Mahdi is a descendant of the prophet... do you have a problem with that?
At the latest news... Those who will fight... are also Arabs... at this Time... No one gonna take a seat and enjoy...
As an Arab outside of KSA... I can't also stay there... it's not a religious thing... it's antion policy...
Leadership is given to the best of man... And those companion were the best. If Abu Bakr was from the Ansar... Then he will still have the job...

Yes, today Ethnicity matters... Since many are not applying Islamic values to the letter... but chose to get into Western made ideologies like Nationalism where , Me, me and Me alone only matter...

Of course, but here the matter if off who will lead the Muslims ? on Merit neither KSA nor Iran is suitable for job , I'd say none of country is . Truth is if a Non Arab country declare Khilafat the first countries to stand against that Caliph will be Muslims .
It doesn't matter, what matters is what he said is true, these poor Pakistani who jump on concept of Ummah will be treated as 3rd grade citizen if there is a Khilafat appears . haven't you heard that Indian Muslims were used as servants, and most of them were given jobs as washing dishes under ISIS , lol even a terrorists group has this racial bias .
And that Islam Lost right after the death of Prophet .. Abu bakr Face Riddah wars , Umar was assassinated and his problems with Khalid Al Walid , Uthman was killed by the Muslims that include son of Abu Bakr , Ali had to fight with Prophets Wife ..
Islam does, Muslims don't .. Ummah is comprised of Muslims, Subjects and as long as we have Muslims we will never be able bring back the concept of Ummah or what Muhammad pbuh foresee .

No country of today can lead the Muslims.. none is suitable for the job... So instead of Finding one... let's do our best to create among ourselves then we could chose.
If an Arab country today Declare Khalifat... Arab AND non Arab will be against him...
Using ISIS has an exemple... is... a bit... so Now Terros = Muslims?

The Fitna among Muslim was already predicted... nothing new. Thats' our Trial.
Indeed Islam is perfect... but not the Muslims... But perfection isn't required to build something suitable for our future.

 

[YeBeWarned]

The Ottoman fall was needed... Ottoman Empire didn't fall bc of Arabs... they came to the same challenges of those before them and like those one... they couldn't deal with them... If the Arabs didn't make their little thing... Then be sure that today... Mohammeds will be called Pierre/George... Whatever some may see it as a betrayal or not... It came at the last years of it's death... and kept those lands under "Muslim" rule...

Dude Lawrence of Arabia will go down in History , the last Khilafat ended with the supportive hands of Muslim for ME , this reality you have to deal with it, as a Arab you are just saving your kin but Turks and many Pakistani's have a different take . Truth is no matter how and what justification you give or any Arab give, is that They betrayed the Caliph .

Mahdi is a descendant of the prophet... do you have a problem with that?

My problem is why Arab ? Why every Savior or leader has to be from Arab ?

At the latest news... Those who will fight... are also Arabs... at this Time... No one gonna take a seat and enjoy...
As an Arab outside of KSA... I can't also stay there... it's not a religious thing... it's antion policy...
Leadership is given to the best of man... And those companion were the best. If Abu Bakr was from the Ansar... Then he will still have the job...

The leadership is already given, as per you it will befall in the hands of Arab aka Mehdi , so no matter if I wen to Sidratul muntaha, still wont be able to give that Leadership to any non Arab ? that is bottom line unfair .

Yes, today Ethnicity matters... Since many are not applying Islamic values to the letter... but chose to get into Western made ideologies like Nationalism where , Me, me and Me alone only matter...

I just proved that how right after the death Prophet the leadership was kept in Mecca and later Quresh, wasn't that the height of Nationalism ?

No country of today can lead the Muslims.. none is suitable for the job... So instead of Finding one... let's do our best to create among ourselves then we could chose.

As a Pakistan I want to see a strong and Prosperous Pakistan, I don't care if Arabs fight over Oil , Jihad or Khilafat , as long as Pakistani's and Pakistan is kept outside of that mess , I have no problem but unfortunately we have Pakistani's who will love to errand boys of Arabs rather than accept their Nationality and be proud of their own Pakistaniat .

Using ISIS has an exemple... is... a bit... so Now Terros = Muslims?

No, ISIS example was given in context how the Arabs treat Non Arabs. Even a terrorist group like ISIS didn't think these low standard Ajams to be given high position in their so called Caliphate . these poor Indians went there to be part of Caliphate and find themselves to be doing chores for ISIS .

Indeed Islam is perfect... but not the Muslims... But perfection isn't required to build something suitable for our future.

You can not build Ummah as long as Arabs and Persians learn to accept the role of Non Arabs and Non Persians . Today the two most Powerful Islamic countries are Turkey and Pakistan , Indonesia has much potential .. so if any country deserve to lead the Islamic world its these three countries .

 

[HannibalBarca]

Dude Lawrence of Arabia will go down in History , the last Khilafat ended with the supportive hands of Muslim for ME , this reality you have to deal with it, as a Arab you are just saving your kin but Turks and many Pakistani's have a different take . Truth is no matter how and what justification you give or any Arab give, is that They betrayed the Caliph .



My problem is why Arab ? Why every Savior or leader has to be from Arab ?



The leadership is already given, as per you it will befall in the hands of Arab aka Mehdi , so no matter if I wen to Sidratul muntaha, still wont be able to give that Leadership to any non Arab ? that is bottom line unfair .



I just proved that how right after the death Prophet the leadership was kept in Mecca and later Quresh, wasn't that the height of Nationalism ?



As a Pakistan I want to see a strong and Prosperous Pakistan, I don't care if Arabs fight over Oil , Jihad or Khilafat , as long as Pakistani's and Pakistan is kept outside of that mess , I have no problem but unfortunately we have Pakistani's who will love to errand boys of Arabs rather than accept their Nationality and be proud of their own Pakistaniat .



No, ISIS example was given in context how the Arabs treat Non Arabs. Even a terrorist group like ISIS didn't think these low standard Ajams to be given high position in their so called Caliphate . these poor Indians went there to be part of Caliphate and find themselves to be doing chores for ISIS .



You can not build Ummah as long as Arabs and Persians learn to accept the role of Non Arabs and Non Persians . Today the two most Powerful Islamic countries are Turkey and Pakistan , Indonesia has much potential .. so if any country deserve to lead the Islamic world its these three countries .

You sir, ask something that you are not suitable for...
Allah Chose the best among us... If in certain Time an Arab is better then so be it... if it's an Asian then so be it...
Why always having this inferiority complex.

What value hold an Arab/Turk/Asian/European in the great scheme of things...
If it should be an Arab then so be it...
Or are we going to ask why Abraham wasn't an Arab/Asian/European?
Why All major Prophets were from the ME?
and so on...

This isn't the point... neither it is important... And if your deen get shaken for That... then there is a problem with you.

If Pakistan want to take the Ruling Throne... then so be it... Let her be an example to the Ummah... But as of Today it isn't...same goes for any countries around...

As for the Mahdi... What's better than a Descendant of the Prophet to Unit us? Ofc it's better Him than any other Arab/Turk/Asia/European across the world... Isn't the the result what matter...

 

[YeBeWarned]

You sir, ask something that you are not suitable for...

I think now you are playing the game of " I am good Muslim , you are bad Muslim ", You have been asked a question it doesn't matter if I am suitable or not, we give Dawah to even a Hindu who spend his life in Idol worshiping, so if you don't have a response just say it .

Why always having this inferiority complex.

If i had this inferiority complex I would be cheering for Arab not my own people . Pakistani's are one of the most humble laid back people you will come across .

What value hold an Arab/Turk/Asian/European in the great scheme of things...

As i have been saying , It matter who take the leadership of the Ummah you are preaching about , if the Ummah can't even pick a non Arab as leader what good of that Ummah will be ?
you are beating around the bush my friend ..

Why All major Prophets were from the ME?

Well we do know that Allah send 1,24,000 Messengers , we know only 25 from Quran so most likely the remaining would have be scattered around different regions , so there must be some Non Arab Prophets, this is what we know off .

This isn't the point... neither it is important... And if your deen get shaken for That... then there is a problem with you.

My deen has not the question here, the question is the Ummah which some people eager to revive .

If Pakistan want to take the Ruling Throne... then so be it... Let her be an example to the Ummah... But as of Today it isn't...same goes for any countries around...

And that is whole point, if Pakistan even become capable of leading still ME will never accept it . Plus Do tell me who will decide that if Pakistan is not capable to lead ? what are the set standards to qualify for a country to become Dar-ul-Khilafa ?
Who will judge if Pakistan is ready ? KSA ? Morocco ? Tunisia ? Turkey ? Malaysia ? Iran ?

As for the Mahdi... What's better than a Descendant of the Prophet to Unit us?

Imam Hussain was Grand son of Prophet, and yet he was slaughtered by the same Muslims over the petty differences of who will become the Leader . It would have been better if Allah has given this opportunity to Non Arabs .

Ofc it's better Him than any other Arab/Turk/Asia/European across the world... Isn't the the result what matter...

Can't confirm but i once hear a Imam here talk about end times , he mentioned a hadith ( Not sure ) about the Armies of Mehdi which in bulk will be Arabs, and the last 40K Muslims who will fight along side with Esa Ibn Marium with Yajooj Majooj , those who were mentioned the best of the best, and even those 40K would be as mentioned would be Arabs .. ( this is unconfirmed thing , I am trying to look for it if i find i will post it ) .

 

[Ultima Thule]

I think now you are playing the game of " I am good Muslim , you are bad Muslim ", You have been asked a question it doesn't matter if I am suitable or not, we give Dawah to even a Hindu who spend his life in Idol worshiping, so if you don't have a response just say it .



If i had this inferiority complex I would be cheering for Arab not my own people . Pakistani's are one of the most humble laid back people you will come across .
@Starlord bro these Arabs believes on on this deaf hadith that ARABS is always better than AJAMI (Non ARABS)


As i have been saying , It matter who take the leadership of the Ummah you are preaching about , if the Ummah can't even pick a non Arab as leader what good of that Ummah will be ?
you are beating around the bush my friend ..



Well we do know that Allah send 1,24,000 Messengers , we know only 25 from Quran so most likely the remaining would have be scattered around different regions , so there must be some Non Arab Prophets, this is what we know off .



My deen has not the question here, the question is the Ummah which some people eager to revive .



And that is whole point, if Pakistan even become capable of leading still ME will never accept it . Plus Do tell me who will decide that if Pakistan is not capable to lead ? what are the set standards to qualify for a country to become Dar-ul-Khilafa ?
Who will judge if Pakistan is ready ? KSA ? Morocco ? Tunisia ? Turkey ? Malaysia ? Iran ?



Imam Hussain was Grand son of Prophet, and yet he was slaughtered by the same Muslims over the petty differences of who will become the Leader . It would have been better if Allah has given this opportunity to Non Arabs .



Can't confirm but i once hear a Imam here talk about end times , he mentioned a hadith ( Not sure ) about the Armies of Mehdi which in bulk will be Arabs, and the last 40K Muslims who will fight along side with Esa Ibn Marium with Yajooj Majooj , those who were mentioned the best of the best, and even those 40K would be as mentioned would be Arabs .. ( this is unconfirmed thing , I am trying to look for it if i find i will post it ) .

 

[Nasr]

keep licking ummah kay jootas. why doesnt your muslim ummah look upto you ? have you ever been to your Ummah's country ? No never. you madrassa chaap sould keep licking ummah feet. Ummah concept was done when Prohpet Muhammad PBUH left the world.

Two things that remain when Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam left this world. The first, the Holy Quran and the Second, the Khilafah. Of course you would've known that, had you read Khutbah-tul-Widah. But people like you are devoid of any spiritual inclination or intellectual insight. And if the "Ummah" wasn't that important, then the enemies of Islam (Zionist British Empire) wouldn't have gone to great lengths to defeat and break-up the Khilafah by sponsoring and bringing about the alliance between Saud, Wahhab & Hussein bin Ali.

Go crawl back to your liberal, secular, Zionist masters and rant to them. The lies they tell, are now exposed and their game will soon be up. The anti-Ummah idiots have no basis of argument other than causing fitna.

And what does Ummah favor Pakistan on the Issue of Kashmir, Nothing, instead they licking @$$ of India and west, there is no Ummah in the world right now

Seems strange that an intelligent person such as yourself, is unable to distinguish between what Ummah is and the puppet states created by the evil Zionist British Empire. I guess Jahils don't bother reading the history books and open their Jahil mouths with no thought.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Seems strange that an intelligent person such as yourself, is unable to distinguish between what Ummah is and the puppet states created by the evil Zionist British Empire. I guess Jahils don't bother reading the history books and open their Jahil mouths with no thought.

So there are not Ummah currently right now, Ummah concept died out with a death of our Holy prophet

 

[Nasr]

So there are not Ummah currently right now, Ummah concept died out with a death of our Holy prophet

Wow, never seizes to amaze me at the ignorance of some people. So outrageous it is (ignorance) that I wonder whether it could may well be contrived.

Ummah is there in the 2 billion Muslims on this planet. But the Khilafah is absent as a consequence of Zionist installed regimes in the Muslim world.

Get your head outta your @$$ and use that thing called a brain which God gave you.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Wow, never seizes to amaze me at the ignorance of some people. So outrageous it is (ignorance) that I wonder whether it could may well be contrived.

Ummah is there in the 2 billion Muslims on this planet. But the Khilafah is absent as a consequence of Zionist installed regimes in the Muslim world.

Get your head outta your @$$ and use that thing called a brain which God gave you.

Na, there is no Ummah,currently, and tell me how many are TRUE Muslims like AHzarat Umar/ Khlid bin Walid/Abu bakker/ Ali/Usman etc etc

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Israel is not enemy of Pakistan. We never had any war. This news is exaggerated.

 

[Indos]

Can't confirm but i once hear a Imam here talk about end times , he mentioned a hadith ( Not sure ) about the Armies of Mehdi which in bulk will be Arabs, and the last 40K Muslims who will fight along side with Esa Ibn Marium with Yajooj Majooj , those who were mentioned the best of the best, and even those 40K would be as mentioned would be Arabs .. ( this is unconfirmed thing , I am trying to look for it if i find i will post it ) .

Mahdi army will come from the east. And I read Hadith about end time which said most Mahdi soldiers are non Arab. As a nuclear nation I believe Pakistan will likely become the important part of the army.

Actually any Muslim Army will need both economy and technology to win battle. So I believe if we can contribute on those two things then we can be regarded as the army as well.