Israel & Pakistani View: Is that correct?

[Lankan Ranger]

Israel & Pakistani View: Is that correct?

In the past I had seen Pakistani friends commenting on the so called India-US-Israel axis & even there are some nice debates going around time to time.

So is that correct? Is that a one-sided view?

Israel signs much bigger economic deals & defence deals with China, Japan & South Korea then it signs with India.

Israel also signs economic deals & defence deals with other Asian countries such as Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, Singapore, Myanmar, Vietnam, Sri Lanka and Laos.

Also Turkey, Azerbaijan, Brazil, South Africa maintains economic ties & defence ties with Israel.

Due to much interest in this topic i checked with some people in International Institute for Strategic Studies.

The answer i got is Israel is a technologically advanced economy, so they need customers to sell there hi-tech products, so most Asian countries are valuable customers to them.

When I asked them about so called India-US-Israel axis, they told - “come on ask questions with responsibly don’t make funny statements”

For last 3 months I saw some nice comments made by Pakistani friends, after seeing those I got some interest in this issue.

I think we need an intelligent debate on this then issuing unnecessary statement.

Lankan.

 

[Dalai Lama]

This is how some Pakistanis come to the India-US-Israel evil axis conclusion:

- Israel: Territorial dispute with Palestine. This makes it anti-Islam to them.
- India: Territorial dispute with Pakistan. This makes it anti-Islam to them.

Add to that, America's pro-Israel stance and BAM! You have an anti-Muslim axis against the fortress of Islam.

 

[Last Hope]

This is how some Pakistanis come to the India-US-Israel evil axis conclusion:

- Israel: Territorial dispute with Palestine. This makes it anti-Islam to them.
- India: Territorial dispute with Pakistan. This makes it anti-Islam to them.

Add to that, America's pro-Israel stance and BAM! You have an anti-Muslim axis against the fortress of Islam.

Not only Anti-Islam, but even anti-Humanity..
Just tell us who wanders in the streets raping girls and harassing kids?
Who goes all around searching for people to kill? Israelis.
There isin't a worse Nation than Israel... or is there any?

If you see some Israeli terrorists (aka in Army uniform) entering your home. Wont you fight them to save your wife from getting raped and your children getting chopped off or used as human shields? And when you fight them, you get killed saying that you were a terrorist trying to kill the real terrorist... insane..

 

[Dalai Lama]

Mate, I'm not here to convince you to like the Israelis. I was just answering Sri Lankan.

 

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- Israel: Territorial dispute with Palestine. This makes it anti-Islam to them.

Plus the fact that Israel has fought wars with our ARAB "brothers" and is in control of the one of the Holiest sites in Islam.
Many Pakistanis also believe Israel wants to take over the entire middle east.

Hence the hostility towards Israel

 

[PteX]

Not on Anti-Islam, but even anti-Humanity..
Just tell us who wanders in the streets raping girls and harassing kids?
Who goes all around searching for people to kill? Israelis.
There isin't a worse Nation than Israel... or is there any?

If you see some Israeli terrorists (aka in Army uniform) entering your home. Wont you fight them to save your wife from getting raped and your children getting chopped off or used as human shields? And when you fight them, you get killed saying that you were a terrorist trying to kill the real terrorist... insane..

And people wonder....

 

[Zabaniyah]

Plus the fact that Israel has fought wars with our ARAB "brothers" and is in control of the one of the Holiest sites in Islam.
Many Pakistanis also believe Israel wants to take over the entire middle east.

Hence the hostility towards Israel

It is technically impossible for Israel to occupy its neighboring Arab countries. They already had a hard time in Lebanon - even given that Lebanon's military was (and still is) very weak. So, I don't see how Israel would want to take over the whole of Middle East.

 

[Dalai Lama]

Plus the fact that Israel has fought wars with our ARAB "brothers" and is in control of the one of the Holiest sites in Islam.
Many Pakistanis also believe Israel wants to take over the entire middle east.

Hence the hostility towards Israel

Well, hopefully these Pakistanis will realise the futility of the "Ummah" concept. You guys are better off looking after your own interests. I bet Israel would sell you guys weapons too if you wanted.

 

[CardSharp]

It is technically impossible for Israel to occupy its neighboring Arab countries. They already had a hard time in Lebanon - even given that Lebanon's military was (and still is) very weak. So, I don't see how Israel would want to take over the whole of Middle East.

Yeah but give Hezbollah a bit of credit. They did as well as any irregular force could.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Well, hopefully these Pakistanis will realise the futility of the "Ummah" concept. You guys are better off looking after your own interests. I bet Israel would sell you guys weapons too if you wanted.

Turkey and Azerbaijan do buy weapons from Israel.

 

[Battle Axe]

Israel has always meant ill for muslims across the globe and they have gloated about that, the recent Turkey-Israel impasse is a case in point. Add to that the fact, that Israel lobbies big time in the US to launch those Crusades, sole target of which are often innocent muslims. Then, the axis shares goals, why are all of them talking of taking war to Pakistan.

Taliban may all be scums, on Afghan side or Waziristan. They never opened a front on US, it was Al Qaeda & they were willing to extradiate OBL. Taliban lacks capacity to hit US mainland or India, then why are they so obsessed with it. Why does US love occupation by decimation?

 

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Well, hopefully these Pakistanis will realise the futility of the "Ummah" concept.

Even if we wanted to let go of the Ummah concept ..... We can't
If we or the Arabs do something right or wrong ... the whole of the so called Ummah is affected.

Osama was not Pakistani .... yet all Muslims Arab / non Arab are viewed as if we are just like him

 

[Dalai Lama]

Turkey and Azerbaijan do buy weapons from Israel.

My point exactly. Have a look at this:

^^^
That's a good few Islamic countries who have diplomatic relations with them.

 

[PteX]

Well, hopefully these Pakistanis will realise the futility of the "Ummah" concept. You guys are better off looking after your own interests. I bet Israel would sell you guys weapons too if you wanted.

Why would Israel sell any type of sophisticated weaponry to Pakistan? Not to mention Pakistan being India`s worst enemy... Not the strongest enemy but definitely the most bitter.
It`s like trading a best friend for a guy who tried multiple times to stab you in the neck.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Israel has always meant ill for muslims across the globe and they have gloated about that, the recent Turkey-Israel impasse is a case in point. Add to that the fact, that Israel lobbies big time in the US to launch those Crusades, sole target of which are often innocent muslims. Then, the axis shares goals, why are all of them talking of taking war to Pakistan.

Taliban may all be scums, on Afghan side or Waziristan. They never opened a front on US, it was Al Qaeda & they were willing to extradiate OBL. Taliban lacks capacity to hit US mainland or India, then why are they so obsessed with it. Why does US love occupation by decimation?

Terrorism. They are afraid that Afghanistan would become a breeding ground for terrorists. May I dare say they fear the same for Pakistan, especially considering they have nukes.

Although, I'd have to say that Iraq was a disaster. But glad that the Iraqis are getting along somehow now. The sentence - War on Terror is a bit of an exaggerated statement.

Key for Muslims is to opt for a strong state as per Muslim-majority country. I think some Muslims folks just couldn't tolerate the fact the Israel defeated the Arabs so decisively four times in a row. That's partly how Muslim extremism came about.