Israel celebrates 70th year

[timmy_area51]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/world/middleeast/israel-independence-anniversary-.html

from new york times. your best source on everything israeli

 

[khansaheeb]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/world/middleeast/israel-independence-anniversary-.html

from new york times. your best source on everything israeli

Really???- "there's nothing more homosexual than serving your own country"?? Your signature sucks.

 

[timmy_area51]

Really???- "there's nothing more homosexual than serving your own country"?? Your signature sucks.

in vietnam the wind doesn't suck . it blows .

 

[$@rJen]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/world/middleeast/israel-independence-anniversary-.html

from new york times. your best source on everything israeli

It must be a big pain for you ro know Israel is celebrating 70th anniversary

 

[khansaheeb]

It must be a big pain for you ro know Israel is celebrating 70th anniversary

Pain for the Palestinians, entertainment for the world. I remember at Uni the students union GM used to be dead until a pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel motion was proposed . Then all the Israelis and their supporters and the pro-Palestinian supporters would turn up and it would be anarchy on the floor. Heckling after heckling, threats, whistles and screaming. The SU realised that to liven up their general meetings just throw in a pro Palestinian or pro Israeli motion and the hall would be packed and their funding maintained. Zionist professors would be wheeled out from the nook and crannies ready to intimidate pro Palestinian students.

Israel has kept the world media churning, the arms industry bombing , Human rights bodies busy, Undertakers in overtime and the UN security council over filling their bins with anti-Israel resolutions. After 70 years of existence Israel has grown like a delinquent and genocidal child criminal : brash , arrogant, destructive, stealing, injuring and killing; supported by their allies. Civilised countries celebrate their birthdays by blowing candles, Israel celebrates by blowing out Palestinians.

I hope Israel matures and changes it's ways; no matter how vulgarly barbaric they are , their tenacity, courage , cowardice and existence would be missed if Israel disappears off the map.

in vietnam the wind doesn't suck . it blows .

lol, that would be a better signature: " vietnam the wind doesn't suck . it blows ."

 

[Aramagedon]

Surah al Isra (night journey)

God is the Exalted One who took His servant one night for a visit from the Sacred Mosque (in Mecca) to the Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem). God has blessed the surroundings of the Aqsa Mosque. He took His servant on this visit to show him (miraculous) evidence of His (existence). It is He who is All-hearing and All-aware. {17,1}

And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolently with great insolence.

So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished

If you do good, it will be for your own benefit, but if you do bad, it will be against your souls. When the prophecy of your second transgression will come to pass, sadness will cover your faces. They (your enemies) will enter the mosque as they did the first time to bring about utter destruction. {17,7}

 

[gangsta_rap]

Theodor Herzl was a staunch atheist apparently. Certain figures after the formation of the state like Golda Meir had the same leanings.

Funny how they created a country on a land 'promised' to them by a God they don't believe in. Hypocrisy...

 

[$@rJen]

Pain for the Palestinians, entertainment for the world. I remember at Uni the students union GM used to be dead until a pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel motion was proposed . Then all the Israelis and their supporters and the pro-Palestinian supporters would turn up and it would be anarchy on the floor. Heckling after heckling, threats, whistles and screaming. The SU realised that to liven up their general meetings just throw in a pro Palestinian or pro Israeli motion and the hall would be packed and their funding maintained. Zionist professors would be wheeled out from the nook and crannies ready to intimidate pro Palestinian students.

Israel has kept the world media churning, the arms industry bombing , Human rights bodies busy, Undertakers in overtime and the UN security council over filling their bins with anti-Israel resolutions. After 70 years of existence Israel has grown like a delinquent and genocidal child criminal : brash , arrogant, destructive, stealing, injuring and killing; supported by their allies. Civilised countries celebrate their birthdays by blowing candles, Israel celebrates by blowing out Palestinians.

I hope Israel matures and changes it's ways; no matter how vulgarly barbaric they are , their tenacity, courage , cowardice and existence would be missed if Israel disappears off the map.

not going to read anything... cause i know itsa usual rant... so much for a guy who has the pic of another terrorist woman as avatar... and you expect me to read your posts..

 

[khansaheeb]

not going to read anything... cause i know itsa usual rant... so much for a guy who has the pic of another terrorist woman as avatar... and you expect me to read your posts..

Thank you for your hindjew ejeculation, typical Hindjew rant from a biased and ignorant person. Aafia Siddiqui was never found guilty of terrorism so I don't see how you can call her a terrorist:-

Siddiqui was sentenced to 86 years in prison by the Judge Berman on 23 September 2010. During the sentencing hearing, which lasted one hour, Siddiqui spoke on her own behalf.[181] Upon hearing the verdict, she turned to trial spectators and told them that "this verdict coming from Israel and not from America".[178]

A New York Times reporter wrote that at times during the hearing Judge Berman seemed to be speaking to an audience beyond the courtroom in an apparent attempt to address widespread speculation about Siddiqui and her case. He gave as an example a reference to the five-year period before her 2008 arrest of Siddiqui's disappearance and claims of torture, where the judge said: "I am aware of no evidence in the record to substantiate these allegations or to establish them as fact. There is no credible evidence in the record that the United States officials and/or agencies detained Dr. Siddiqui".[182]

At the time of sentencing Siddiqui did not show any interest in filing an appeal, instead saying "I appeal to God and he hears me." After she was sentenced, she urged forgiveness and asked the public not to take any action in retaliation.[183] She stated, "forgive everybody in my case, please... Don't get angry. If I'm not angry, why should anyone else be?"[184] In a notably gracious exchange between the bestower and recipient of an 80+ year sentence of incarceration, the judge wished her "the very best going forward", and both Siddiqui and the judge thanked each other.[185]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui

No one is forcing you to read anything or reply to anything. The internet is a free space , free for voicing opinions and views in all flavours and tones, freedom to express , freedom to bring to attention to any one who desires to see view points whether controversial or not. This is a military discussion website so of course you are going to get harsh realities and views , cold blooded and sweet, painful and stark from people who love military matters. Coming from a country where your country routinely rapes and murders civilians your extreme views are not surprising and it seems that you are immune to love , peace and humanity.

@$@rJen

 

[$@rJen]

Thank you for your hindjew ejeculation, typical Hindjew rant from a biased and ignorant person. Aafia Siddiqui was never found guilty of terrorism so I don't see how you can call her a terrorist:-

Siddiqui was sentenced to 86 years in prison by the Judge Berman on 23 September 2010. During the sentencing hearing, which lasted one hour, Siddiqui spoke on her own behalf.[181] Upon hearing the verdict, she turned to trial spectators and told them that "this verdict coming from Israel and not from America".[178]

A New York Times reporter wrote that at times during the hearing Judge Berman seemed to be speaking to an audience beyond the courtroom in an apparent attempt to address widespread speculation about Siddiqui and her case. He gave as an example a reference to the five-year period before her 2008 arrest of Siddiqui's disappearance and claims of torture, where the judge said: "I am aware of no evidence in the record to substantiate these allegations or to establish them as fact. There is no credible evidence in the record that the United States officials and/or agencies detained Dr. Siddiqui".[182]

At the time of sentencing Siddiqui did not show any interest in filing an appeal, instead saying "I appeal to God and he hears me." After she was sentenced, she urged forgiveness and asked the public not to take any action in retaliation.[183] She stated, "forgive everybody in my case, please... Don't get angry. If I'm not angry, why should anyone else be?"[184] In a notably gracious exchange between the bestower and recipient of an 80+ year sentence of incarceration, the judge wished her "the very best going forward", and both Siddiqui and the judge thanked each other.[185]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui

No one is forcing you to read anything or reply to anything. The internet is a free space , free for voicing opinions and views in all flavours and tones, freedom to express , freedom to bring to attention to any one who desires to see view points whether controversial or not. This is a military discussion website so of course you are going to get harsh realities and views , cold blooded and sweet, painful and stark from people who love military matters. Coming from a country where your country routinely rapes and murders civilians your extreme views are not surprising and it seems that you are immune to love , peace and humanity.

 

[khansaheeb]

 

[Aramagedon]

@Slav Defence

@timmy_area51 is two times permanently banned under these ids : @jammersat and @Gothic

Making multiple ids is against forum’s when someone get permanently banned.

 

[Dinky]

Israel will have a long long long life because it is surrounded by Friendly Arab states who all kiss US @ss. So nothing to be worried about

 

[kuge]

Surah al Isra (night journey)

God is the Exalted One who took His servant one night for a visit from the Sacred Mosque (in Mecca) to the Aqsa Mosque (in Jerusalem). God has blessed the surroundings of the Aqsa Mosque. He took His servant on this visit to show him (miraculous) evidence of His (existence). It is He who is All-hearing and All-aware. {17,1}

And We had made known to the children of Israel in the Book: Most certainly you will make mischief in the land twice, and most certainly you will behave insolently with great insolence.

So when the promise for the first of the two came, We sent over you Our servants, of mighty prowess, so they went to and fro among the houses, and it was a promise to be accomplished

If you do good, it will be for your own benefit, but if you do bad, it will be against your souls. When the prophecy of your second transgression will come to pass, sadness will cover your faces. They (your enemies) will enter the mosque as they did the first time to bring about utter destruction. {17,7}

1. isnt al-aqsa mosque built in 691AD many years after the death of prophet Muhammed?
how could he ever visit it then?
2. does the Quran say al-aqsa mosque is in jerusalem?

 

[Solomon2]

Pain for the Palestinians, entertainment for the world...After 70 years of existence Israel has grown like a delinquent and genocidal child criminal : brash , arrogant, destructive, stealing, injuring and killing...I hope Israel matures and changes it's ways; no matter how vulgarly barbaric they are , their tenacity, courage , cowardice and existence would be missed if Israel disappears off the map.

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE MUSLIM WORLD
APRIL 20, 2018 MELANIE
It's only fair to share...Jewish News Syndicate

Dear Muslim world,

The State of Israel is 70 years old today and I am writing from its capital city, Jerusalem.

I realize that for most of you, the words I have just written will cause your gorge to rise. In Israel, they are a source of jubilation.

Israel’s rebirth as the Jewish national homeland out of the ashes of the Holocaust was in itself an astonishing achievement, unique in the annals of the world.

For it to have survived the unparalleled attempts to destroy it ever since is regarded by many as nothing short of miraculous.

Yesterday was Israel’s annual remembrance day. When the sirens sounded, the country paused and bowed its head. It’s the day when Israel mourns the price in blood it has had to pay for existing at all: 23,646 fallen Israeli soldiers and 3,134 Israeli civilians murdered through terrorism.

More than 26,000 dead—with most of the military casualties consisting of Israel’s precious young who must be conscripted to defend their country—purely because there are people determined to prevent the Jews from living in their own ancestral homeland.

But you know all about that because you are the people killing them.

You are the people who have been trying to destroy the Jewish homeland for the better part of a century. Look how hard you’ve tried. You’ve used war. You’ve used terrorism. You’ve used the Palestinian Arabs as pawns. You’ve used the diplomatic game. You’ve used economic boycotts.

Despite all this, you have been forced to watch as Israel has not only survived but become the strongest state in the region, stronger even than many countries in the developed world.

While your economies are one giant basket-case disguised only by the now fast-disappearing oil weapon, Israel has become the “start-up nation” with its economy booming.

While your birth rate is falling off the edge of a cliff, Israel’s average of three births per woman is nearly double the fertility rate for other industrialized countries in the OECD.

Your one undoubted success has been to get the Europeans on your side in your campaign of demonization and delegitimization of Israel. Well, good luck with that one.

European culture is itself in danger of going down the tubes as the result of uncontrolled migration. The Europeans may think they support you against Israel, but the harsh reality—which is about to get a whole lot harsher for them—is that they will increasingly need Israel’s support against you.

We understand why you hate Israel. Paranoid hatred of the Jews is embedded in your religious texts. Moreover, since you believe that any land ever occupied by Muslims becomes Muslim land in perpetuity—and since the very idea of the Jews being your equals in ruling their own land is anathema to you—your culture of honor and shame means that you cannot accept a Jewish state in a region you claim as your own.

So we know you will never accept that Israel is entitled to exist. Nevertheless, you are actually fighting a much bigger enemy than the Jews—an enemy to which you are losing hands down. That enemy is modernity.

For all the terrible violence and mayhem you have unleashed in the cause of Islamic holy war, your purpose is ultimately defensive. You realize that, in its freedom for the individual and particularly for women, modernity poses a mortal threat to Islam.

Unlike the ignorant west, you know that Islam does not mean peace. It means submission. Modernity means submission can no longer be enforced. Which is why, in its seventh-century form at least, Islam is on the way out.

Which is why you believe you have to stop modernity. Which is why you are at war with the west. And which is also why you see the Jews as your enemy of enemies because you believe they are behind absolutely everything to do with modernity. Destroy the Jews, you imagine, and you will defeat modernity.

Too late: the genie is out of the bottle. In Iran, women are throwing off their hijabs; as a result, the clerical regime terrorizing the Iranian people is trembling. The Iranian people are refusing to submit; and if enough of them rise up, the Islamist regime will be toppled and modernity will have won.

In Saudi Arabia, the Crown Prince has realized that unless the country modernizes, it will die. Accordingly, some repressive social rules have been relaxed with more reforms promised.

Yes, these are only small steps. But the Crown Prince, who also needs western backing to fight the Iranian regime, has come to understand that rather than fighting modernity he needs to make some kind of accommodation with it. And he seems to have concluded something similar about Israel.

And look at the Palestinian Arabs. In Gaza, Hamas is having to force them through threats and violence to rush the border fence with Israel. More and more Israeli Arabs want to be known just as Israelis. Arabs living in the disputed territories by and large don’t want to live in a despotic and corrupt Palestine state. They want Israeli passports and to live in Israel, under the rule of law and guarantees of human rights.

An increasing number of the Arab young, who are on Twitter and Facebook and all the rest of it, don’t want to fight the unending battles of the seventh century.

Of course, none of this means the Palestinian Arabs are about to abandon their war to destroy Israel; opinion polls suggest widespread continuing rejectionism. But the unstoppable force of modernity is meeting the immoveable object of Islam, and modernity will win.

Dear Muslim world, we Jews are fated always to be yoked to you. How could it be otherwise? We are stepbrothers and sisters, sharing the same father although we have different mothers (and we didn’t treat yours very well). Like it or not, we are part of the same extended family.

We know that families, especially stepfamilies, can be arenas of resentment and hatred. Despite the murderous hatred you have shown us over the last 70 years and previously, we Jews don’t hate you. Nor do we need you to love us. We just want you to get over yourselves and collectively grow up.

If you finally were to decide to end your war against us in Israel, finally decide that you love your children more than you hate us, finally decide that instead of trying to destroy Israel you want it to help you accommodate to modernity, you will find our hands extended in friendship. But if you try to remove us from the earth, we will destroy you.

Dear Muslim world, wake up and smell the coffee. The Jewish people has defied all the odds over and over again and will continue to do so. You may break our hearts by killing our loved ones but you won’t break us. Progress and modernity will destroy you instead.

Jewish News Syndicate

We don't accept Israel as a state.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Reuven Rivlin (C) meet foreign diplomats at the President's Residence in Jerusalem on Israel's 70th Independence Day on April 19, 2018. (Kobi Gideon/GPO)

“We’re happy about [US] President [Donald] Trump’s decision to move the embassy here. It says a simple thing: Peace must be based on truth,” Netanyahu told foreign diplomats at an Independence Day event at President Reuven Rivlin’s official residence.

“Recognizing reality is the way to build peace. You cannot build peace on the basis of lies because it crashes against the rocks of reality,” he added. “The fact that Israel has a capital city, that the Jewish people has had a capital city for 3,000 years named Jerusalem, is undeniable. It is time to acknowledge that fact."