Islamists clash with Pakistani Nationalists in the UK during Independence celebrations (Must Watch).

[Peaceful Civilian]

these gandos are well known as anjum chaudhdrys - the luni mad molvie - hizb ut tahrirs - leftovers

Pakistanis need to join forces with British national party to kick their molvie / jihadi arse

But they are protected by U.K. One day same snake will bite them.

 

[trident2010]

Awesome show by Islamists and Pakistanis .. lol. Keep it up !!

 

[pak-marine]

But they are protected by U.K. One day same snake will bite them.

Its a chain reaction every understood when they got bitten by these badzat snakes , however collateral damage for UK is measured and is very little whereas these dogs can cost a lot for a country like Pakistan ... i guess brits knew the kind of snake his kind is and they knew the max damage they can incurr is very little but as far as pakistan is concerned fckrs can cost us a lot so its more concern for us .. if we notice on the video there is a pakistani opposition .. dont you love that .. Man its a good sign .. i wish too these bandars demostrating and opposition is pakistanis joining hands with the rest of expat community .. it will be a shut up call for anjum he can than pack his bags and go suck off baghdadi as far as we care or any one else

 

[I M Sikander]

In fact pro Pakistanis are shouting a lot..the mullahs were silent for majority of the video.

Its true that Islam doesn't support nationalism..all Muslims are supposed to be part of one nation..if Pakistanis are true Muslims they should strive for it..give up the identity of Pakistani.. Be a true muslim first.

Mental masturbation not allowed. Do it secretly you horny kid.

 

[niaz]

I m not a typical sub-continental Muslim who respects every Muslim ruler that ruled over India.

Tipu Sultan wasn't a pious Muslim as he made out to by Indian and Pakistani muslims. He didn't persecute Hindus. He only persecuted Hindus who opposed. He gave grants to temple. He was a Sufi.Did nothing to fight the innovation that had crept into Islam.Not many know that he even persecuted moplahs who were Muslims. He loved westerners and tried to be like them. Held a french ceremony and called him Citizen Tipu. It's obvious why you admire him.

But my opinion shouldn't matter to you since I am a RSS agent and you are Mr know it all righteous Muslim.

Honourable Mujhaidind,

No one has accused you of being an RSS agent. Even if you were; as long as you observed civility; I for one would read your posts because it would provide an opportunity to understand why RSS hate Muslims.

From my viewpoint, being a good Muslim alone is not enough. Before I could admire someone he has to exhibit some exceptional qualities. Outwardly Taliban & Dai’sh observe Islam but they indulge in ‘Suicide ‘ which is forbidden in Quran; cut throats of their captives and justify attacking women & children on some flimsy argument. In my view these people are devoid of compassion & mercy and thus are not even worthy of belonging to the human race.

I admire Tipu Sultan because unlike Nizam of Hyderabad, he was a brave South Indian ruler who would not submit to the English without a fight and bravery is universally admired even among adversaries (Remember Porus & Alexander). Tipu courted French because French were enemies of the English.

I am also full of admiration of many non - Muslims such as Louis Pasteur (Germ theory of disease), Alexander Fleming (Inventor of Penicillin) and Nelson Mandela. Do I assume that you would not admire any great personality unless he was a Muslim?

Obviously we have a totally different outlook towards religion as well as what makes a good or bad human being. No point in being unpleasant about it, let us agree to disagree.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

These guys are attention seekers. If Pakistani people want to celebrate their independence day and be patriotic why can't they do it. If these allegedly religious people have a problem or hate Pakistan than why can't they keep away and avoid trouble. Why do they have to come. Are their lives that shallow, rubbish and barren that they have to be a nuisance in order to add meaning to their existence. It's like enemies of Pakistan coming on defence.pk and bad mouthing Pakistan. If you don't like it than don't come. Go back to your own. I have no interest in the race/culture/religion/language or heritage of the enemies of Pakistan so please reciprocate. I find your people/race especially your women extremely ugly and revolting. So please go home and leave us people in peace.

 

[mujhaidind]

From my viewpoint, being a good Muslim alone is not enough. Before I could admire someone he has to exhibit some exceptional qualities. Outwardly Taliban & Dai’sh observe Islam but they indulge in ‘Suicide ‘ which is forbidden in Quran; cut throats of their captives and justify attacking women & children on some flimsy argument. In my view these people are devoid of compassion & mercy and thus are not even worthy of belonging to the human race.

They are following sharia. I dont trust the western media anyway.

What are the ones so called sub-continental sufi Muslims in the UK doing? Drinking wine. Eating that pork. Trying into the pants of those white whhores?

I admire Tipu Sultan because unlike Nizam of Hyderabad, he was a brave South Indian ruler who would not submit to the English without a fight and bravery is universally admired even among adversaries (Remember Porus & Alexander). Tipu courted French because French were enemies of the English.

You don't know the real history. Tipu and his father switched sides according to their greed. They fought against Muslim rulers too. Infact they had an alliance with infidels to split a fellow Muslim rulers kingdom. Opportunist and greedy. Tipu was a wine drinking western wannabe who barely followed Islam.

I politely disagree with you.

They have some point,

This is what Jama't's founder Maududi says about Pakistan:

Role of Moulana Maudoodi: (Historical facts)

IN THE WORDS OF MAUDOODI:

1. “The establishment and birth of Pakistan is equivalent to the birth of a beast.”[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31, p.59, 1948 Pakistan]

2. “Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s place is not on the throne of leadership. He deserves to face trial as a traitor.”[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31,p.62, 1948]

3. "There were three actors in the partition of India. Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s performance proved to be most unsuccessful”.[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31,p.70, 1948]

4. “It is haraam to vote for the Muslim League.” [Tarjumanul Quran vol.27, p.145, 1946, Pathankot]

5. “Muhammad Ali Jinnah is the founder of fool’s paradise and an exceedingly sinful person.”[Tarjumanul Quran, Feb 1946, p.153]

6. “Pakistan is a fool’s paradise and an infidel state of Muslims.”[Tarjumanul Quran, 1946, p.154]

7. “Pakistan is filled with millions of robbers, thieves, murderers, adulterers and uncouth wrongdoers.”[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31, p.59]

8. “An election campaign is a race of hounds.” [Kausar, 1950]

9. “The Muslim League is an unrighteous and immoral party that has made our collective environment filthier than the lavatory.”[Jamaat Islami ki intikhabi jidd-o jehd, p.16]

10. "The Mohajirs are deserters and cowards, who fought a national battle, but when the time came to pay the price, they took the path of escape.”[Nawa-e waqt, 29 Aug 1948]

By @asad71

Shaykh Maududi was a wise man. What do you think @jamahir

 

[waz]

What are the ones so called sub-continental sufi Muslims in the UK doing? Drinking wine. Eating that pork. Trying into the pants of those white whhores?

They are obviously not practicing taswauf then are they?

 

[Hyperion]

Maudoodi was a hound of hell - one of the dirtiest pigs that lived on the planet. Enough said.

They have some point,

This is what Jama't's founder Maududi says about Pakistan:

Role of Moulana Maudoodi: (Historical facts)

IN THE WORDS OF MAUDOODI:

1. “The establishment and birth of Pakistan is equivalent to the birth of a beast.”[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31, p.59, 1948 Pakistan]

2. “Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s place is not on the throne of leadership. He deserves to face trial as a traitor.”[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31,p.62, 1948]

3. "There were three actors in the partition of India. Muhammad Ali Jinnah’s performance proved to be most unsuccessful”.[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31,p.70, 1948]

4. “It is haraam to vote for the Muslim League.” [Tarjumanul Quran vol.27, p.145, 1946, Pathankot]

5. “Muhammad Ali Jinnah is the founder of fool’s paradise and an exceedingly sinful person.”[Tarjumanul Quran, Feb 1946, p.153]

6. “Pakistan is a fool’s paradise and an infidel state of Muslims.”[Tarjumanul Quran, 1946, p.154]

7. “Pakistan is filled with millions of robbers, thieves, murderers, adulterers and uncouth wrongdoers.”[Tarjumanul Quran vol.31, p.59]

8. “An election campaign is a race of hounds.” [Kausar, 1950]

9. “The Muslim League is an unrighteous and immoral party that has made our collective environment filthier than the lavatory.”[Jamaat Islami ki intikhabi jidd-o jehd, p.16]

10. "The Mohajirs are deserters and cowards, who fought a national battle, but when the time came to pay the price, they took the path of escape.”[Nawa-e waqt, 29 Aug 1948]

By @asad71

 

[jamahir]

Shaykh Maududi was a wise man. What do you think @jamahir

you know my answer.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

nationalism is haram....lolz...........junky mullahs

Here is

Islamists clash with Pakistani Nationalists during Independence Day Celebrations in UK - YouTube

Nationalism is Haram; but Pakistan has nothing to do with Nationalism. It is a Muslim state made for the exclusive protection of Muslims and it's interests. If Pakistan had the parasite of nationalism; it would've been separated into 5 different states.

 

[EasyNow]

okay, but internally, the british state idea of "freedom of speech" doesn't seem to correspond to common sense

This is the big debate right now, how much civil liberty should people be allowed if those liberties start to threaten peace in the State. You have to remember that this is a unique era in British history comes after a war, after a socialist boom in the 70s, after race wars in the 80s and then the feel good nineties of Tony Blair. Britain has been trying to accommodate minorities for decades, but it's only beginning to question this principal now. Expect to see a lot more right wing policies in future.

but why?? surely the mullahs don't have a voting constituency which the british establishment must mind... and they are not like "scotland independence" people whom the british government must subvert.

Because there is a strong liberal civil society here, and it goes against liberalism to smother freedom of speech/thought. Any attempt to 'persecute' minorities is not taken well by the majority here. There is also a substantial Muslim vote bank now.

surely enough british people of a certain look have gone to turkey to join the terrorists fighting syrian government and this cause some prevention action with british establishment... but the british government is heavily involved in creating and keeping alive the syria war... so there are wider issues.

Well its in no ones interest to stop idiots from killing themselves. Regardless of who created ISIS, the ideology has existed from long before and it's supporters are everywhere.

the "occupy movements" in the anglo nations says not.

Those were protests against international issues. The point is none of those people are discriminated against for holding those views.

To be honest, there are radical idiots in every country, look at your countryman on this very thread. What right has the gov to stop him spewing hate?

 

[tarrar]

Bro lets be frank we harbored and trained terrorist ourselves. No need to point fingers here

If you don't know what to say then please don't say things which are old, even after 100 years yours & others lines will be the same. These kind of people are born because of corrupt politicians & their corrupt doings. We did not harbor there extremists in UK, it is more easier for foreign agencies to operate on their own soils & make such groups for personal gain or interests.

 

[jamahir]

Those were protests against international issues.

the "occupy" agenda is about internal change, mostly about economic/social issues but also about not starting wars outside.

The point is none of those people are discriminated against for holding those views.

sorry, my friend, but you have a naive view on this... the occupy movement was subverted and directed by the british and american governments through various means... in usa, the police not only used violence but also did not stop criminals from indulging in violence in the occupy camp sites, and then there was subversion via infiltration by cia-connected groups like awaaz... you can find more about britian... i don't know what happened in australia.

Well its in no ones interest to stop idiots from killing themselves. Regardless of who created ISIS, the ideology has existed from long before and it's supporters are everywhere.

i wasn't talking of isis/isil... i was talking about the other terrorists like fsa, nusra, qaeda and whatever other fancy names they have arranged under... the so-called moderate rebels... moderate terrorists, more like... this nato regime-change war started in early 2011 and by many britishers were leaving to turkey to join the terrorists... the british government simply doesn't want to stop them... after all, this is why they were bred.

you know most of the syrian-origin "rebels" ( not the other nationalities ) from outside syria were exilees or children of exilees, exlied for being part of terrorist groups like ikhwaan ( brotherhood ) or others... syria had fought a similar but smaller war in the 80's... syrian government/intel did wrong by not hunting them outside earlier ( target killings and all ).

 

[EasyNow]

the "occupy" agenda is about internal change, mostly about economic/social issues but also about not starting wars outside.

I can see this turning into a capitalism vs socialism debate and i know you wont change your mind there. Suffice to say, the occupy movement's beef with corporate power is very subjective, how 'big money' is controlling society is another argument altogether. BUT the fact is, everyone has the same rights in the UK - the occupy guys are only arrested when they break the law by getting violent, damaging property or causing a public health issue. The fact they could 'occupy' prime central London for several years is testament to this.

sorry, my friend, but you have a naive view on this... the occupy movement was subverted and directed by the british and american governments through various means... in usa, the police not only used violence but also did not stop criminals from indulging in violence in the occupy camp sites, and then there was subversion via infiltration by cia-connected groups like awaaz... you can find more about britian... i don't know what happened in australia.

Sorry, you're beginning to sound like the typical conspiracy theorist here.. You must know that by it's nature, movements like occupy attracts rebels and that violence is inevitable. And honestly, you're giving these people too much credit - no-one gave a damn about Occupy in London, i doubt it bothered the gov at all.

US police are more heavy handed than the UK - but it's funny that you don't see idiots like AC walking freely over there - proving my point that the UK's liberal social values have allowed these animals to grow disproportionately strong.

i wasn't talking of isis/isil... i was talking about the other terrorists like fsa, nusra, qaeda and whatever other fancy names they have arranged under... the so-called moderate rebels... moderate terrorists, more like... this nato regime-change war started in early 2011 and by many britishers were leaving to turkey to join the terrorists... the british government simply doesn't want to stop them... after all, this is why they were bred.

you know most of the syrian-origin "rebels" ( not the other nationalities ) from outside syria were exilees or children of exilees, exlied for being part of terrorist groups like ikhwaan ( brotherhood ) or others... syria had fought a similar but smaller war in the 80's... syrian government/intel did wrong by not hunting them outside earlier ( target killings and all ).

Like i've said, the UK has made international mistakes. The 'good' rebels received support from the majority of the worlds Muslims and the West, their supporters and ideologues are not a mystery. In fact most of the recruits are going from tunisia and the middle east. Do you really think the UK is stupid enough to feed, clothe and house millions of Muslims for the benefit of sending 500 of them to fight elsewhere / and in turn threaten Britain itself?