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Arab nationalists take up arms in the battle for Syria

Russia China and JEW USA will do everything to undermine it also bomb you or support coups in the name of liberation and democracy like with many other middle eastern states. But still it must be done so that you won't be their client state, Hazzy agrees with this.

By that logic the so-called anti-Western Arab states of the region (Algeria and Iraq - which is false btw since both have close dealings with the West (read USA and France) are Russian client states. Same shit. None of them are fully self-sufficient just like every non-Western country outside of China. As of now that is.

But I do agree with the need to work more closely together. But that's not the same as being a proponent of the outdated and failed Ba'athism ideology.

The Arab League, once the region democratizes, should work as the EU. That would be good for the region.
 
Yes, Aflaq was a smart and well known philosopher, if he would rule he would have done it right.
Assad and saddam ruled in the name of the Ba'ath but they didn't follow it's ideology like the Islamists who rule in the name of Islam
Aflaq believed in democracy
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Most Arab nationalists are against the Gulf

I only support Arab nationalism from the Gulf
 
@SALMAN AL-FARSI

The problem is that this would never have worked because the people were/are not ready. The old generation has only known authoritarianism. Such projects are in the hands of the next generation and those that will come afterwards. Not the old generation or dare I even say the current one.

Anyway it is inevitable that the people of the region will realize that cooperation is the only solution because it will ultimately benefit all countries of the region just like closer European cooperation has benefited Europe immensely and stopped practically all armed conflicts, aside from the Balkan War, after WW1 and WW2 were 80 million people died and the thousands of previous wars in Europe.
 
Most Arab nationalists are against the Gulf

I only support Arab nationalism from the Gulf

Against Arab monarchies* since they are all pro US and having military bases all over the countries, no independence.
 
Yes as long there are Islamist who hate arab secular democratic socialist system in the arab world like in Egypt and Libya and Tunisia

Egypt is conservative, and no Arab nations have been democratic.

Against Arab monarchies* since they are all pro US and having military bases all over the countries, no independence.

That's true, although Iraq is in a similar position. If we want an independent Arab world we must all seek it on a whole-scale level. We can't play the game of 'you first, me next'.

It's either all or nothing, otherwise it won't work.
 
@SALMAN AL-FARSI

The problem is that this would never have worked because the people were/are not ready. The old generation has only known authoritarianism. Such projects are in the hands of the next generation and those that will come afterwards. Not the old generation or dare I even say the current one.

This I agree with, I wonder though if we'll lean more towards Islam as the future approaches. On one hand, you have people in Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Libya, Iraq leaning more towards Islam. On the other we have a unpredictable situation in prosperous Arab nations, sometime in the future they may lean more towards an positive Islamic influence on the society.
 
Good for them but last time I checked Syria is not going to become a non-Arab country if Al-Asshead gets removed. Rather it will have much better relations with the vast majority of the Arab world than it has now.
They know what the Arab did to them..The last thing in the Syrian mind is to sit with an Arab! They will vote for Assad to stay...

They should worry about other things. For instance the Golan Heights or Palestine if they are truly Arab nationalists.[/quote]
Palestine is a Palestinian proble..
The Golan, they will fight for it..just a matter of time..And they will be plenty of volunteers , it will be the Spanish revolution of the 21st...
 
They know what the Arab did to them..The last thing in the Syrian mind is to sit with an Arab! They will vote for Assad to stay...
Palestine is a Palestinian proble..
The Golan, they will fight for it..just a matter of time..And they will be plenty of volunteers , it will be the Spanish revolution of the 21st...

My Berber friend, you do realize that Al-Asshead and his entire system/government are fierce Arab nationalists right? Or are you yet to figure out this simple fact?

Maybe you should consult the Syrian Kurds who btw are foreign intruders.
 
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My Berber friend, you do realize that Al-Asshead and his entire system/government are fierce Arab nationalists right? Or are you yet to figure out this simple fact?

Maybe you should consult the Syrian Kurds who btw are foreign intruders.
You understood very well what I was talking about, don't like an ***!
Kurds they are not foreigners, they weren't imported, they live in the area...The deconstructing of the middle east will be beneficial to them, like God given gift! When the dust settles, they will have a state of their own...
 
They know what the Arab did to them..The last thing in the Syrian mind is to sit with an Arab! They will vote for Assad to stay...

They should worry about other things. For instance the Golan Heights or Palestine if they are truly Arab nationalists.
Palestine is a Palestinian proble..
The Golan, they will fight for it..just a matter of time..And they will be plenty of volunteers , it will be the Spanish revolution of the 21st...[/quote]

Golan only a matter of time? Do you know something we don't?
 
SSNP is the solution for Bilad Alsham (Levant), reuniting Natural Syria is the solution for now, since there are "Arabs" in bed with the west, sold their dignity and Arabism long time ago.... Syria have many times proposed for Arabs to unite and fight the enemy together, but of course puppets refused, since their masters don't want Arabs to become superpower...
 

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