Islamabad Warily Weighs Establishing Ties With Israel

[Nasr]

The Pakistani state will. In a year or two.

That's not the answer to my question, lemme reiterate .... Do YOU want to or already do recognize the state of israel?

 

[Ichigo]

I just want to see the looks on the fanboys' faces when Pakistan accepts Israel.

And I have a feeling it will be done within 2 years.

wat fcuked up feelings u have mate... go think about something worthy...

 

[Cliftonite]

wat fcuked up feelings u have mate... go think about something worthy...

I would love to see your face especially.

Foreign policy is not based on feelings and emotions. It's based on cold hard realpolitik.

 

[Ichigo]

why every other day someone opens the crappy topic of Pakistan possibly looking for, or imagining, or thinking of, can think of, might think of, can evaluate, might evaluate, considering, might consider, shall consider and all that horse crap shit.... like WTH we keep opening threads on the same topic... all it takes is one article here and dere and same thing follows over n over again.... Pakistan's stance has been given. come back if things change till than suck up and stop with such bullshit topics and discussions. most rather everyone has given their view about this topic like a million times over..... Move on ppl...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I personally believe that we should not establish ties with Israel as it is a waste of time as far as Pakistan is concerned. We will not gain anything. All the countries that have established relations with Israel haven't suddenly become military, scientific and technological superpowers with their populations attaining the IQ of the Jews. Having relations with Israel will not end our economic or other woes. I think Pakistan should stay WELL CLEAR of both Arabs and Israelis. Pakistan should be NEITHER the friends nor allies of the Arabs and the Israelis.

It will be hipoc

It would be hypocritical to do so, Kashmiri and Palestinian issue is the same, both under occupation

But Palestinians embrace those that call for the death and destruction of the Pakistani people and nation:

Screw the Palestinians!

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Pakistan will accept Israel. And because of our idiotic, reactive, better-late-than-never mentality, we will gain NOTHING from it except domestic squabbling.

We should have done it five years ago, foreseeing this situation developing. Then we could have extracted a huuuuuge fker of a price from USA and Israel for our peaceful overtures. But no, we all sit around remembering "wot we dun" for ungrateful Arabs in some wars fifty years ago that they lost anyway.

Now, we will get NOTHING. And rightly so.

 

[El Sidd]

Pakistan will accept Israel. And because of our idiotic, reactive, better-late-than-never mentality, we will gain NOTHING from it except domestic squabbling.

We should have done it five years ago, foreseeing this situation developing. Then we could have extracted a huuuuuge fker of a price from USA and Israel for our peaceful overtures. But no, we all sit around remembering "wot we dun" for ungrateful Arabs in some wars fifty years ago that they lost anyway.

Now, we will get NOTHING. And rightly so.

Stark contrast from the Yemen thread this post.

 

[Ichigo]

I would love to see your face especially.

Foreign policy is not based on feelings and emotions. It's based on cold hard realpolitik.

at the moment urs like a cry baby... but still not worthy enough to be seen or being bothered wid... lol cold hard real politics when u know shit about anything... fancy words mate.
FP is not based on feelings and emotions, true. but it is also not based on sucking up to someone u fools think is the new sheriff in town.
Its not an emotional decision u fool, its more like a principle stand. but than again its principal for u... principles are something u cant comprehend well so wont get into it, with u... after all mombati mafia the wannabe liberal lot, feels and think on a different sphere (some cooked up lala land)....

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Stark contrast from the Yemen thread this post.

What's this got to do with Yemen?

 

[El Sidd]

What's this got to do with Yemen?

5 years ago Parliament of Pakistan declined the offer to secure trading port of Aden due to emotional and financial blackmail.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

5 years ago Parliament of Pakistan declined the offer to secure trading port of Aden due to emotional and financial blackmail.

Let me expand on my thoughts from my perspective.

If Pakistan temporarily militarily occupied Yemen, that would actually be in Yemen's people's interests because we are in theory neutral between Iran and KSA. This neutrality is our new official stance and it is high time our people started understanding the importance of neutrality between these two ancient belligerent parties. We have no business siding with the house of Saud or with the mullahocracy. Nor do we really have any business opposing Israel as long as the Jews preserve the sanctity of our holy sites.

 

[El Sidd]

Let me expand on my thoughts from my perspective.

If Pakistan temporarily militarily occupied Yemen, that would actually be in Yemen's people's interests because we are in theory neutral between Iran and KSA. This neutrality is our new official stance and it is high time our people started understanding the importance of neutrality between these two ancient belligerent parties. We have no business siding with the house of Saud or with the mullahocracy. Nor do we really have any business opposing Israel as long as the Jews preserve the sanctity of our holy sites.

you can't survive on this policy for too long. I eventually a side would need be taken

 

[masterchief_mirza]

5 years ago Parliament of Pakistan declined the offer to secure trading port of Aden due to emotional and financial blackmail.

In terms of a "secure trading port", that is unacceptable reasoning for us marching into Yemen and would actually cause the locals to resent us. If we went in on the pretext to stop a destructive war, that's a different justification.

Moreover, pragmatically speaking, Pakistan doesn't need additional access to Aden. If Arabs want our goods or Chinese goods through CPEC, they will accept our vessels however much they hate our guts for being neutral in their silly wars.

 

[El Sidd]

In terms of a "secure trading port", that is unacceptable reasoning for us marching into Yemen and would actually cause the locals to resent us. If we went in on the pretext to stop a destructive war, that's a different justification.

Moreover, pragmatically speaking, Pakistan doesn't need additional access to Aden. If Arabs want our goods or Chinese goods through CPEC, they will accept our vessels however much they hate our guts for being neutral in their silly wars.

Locals would have compromised on your presence

 

[masterchief_mirza]

you can't survive on this policy for too long. I eventually a side would need be taken

I take your point, however, it's not necessarily true. If we are economically strong and necessary for Arab trade networks (I.e. through CPEC), then we will never have to take sides in other people's wars again.