ISIS Leader Baghdadi Convoy Hit By Air Strike

[Schutz]

They should capture him and inject him with pig blood.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

The possible death of Al-Baghdadi is completely irrelevant in the wider picture. He dies and a successor will replace him. Just like before his appointment. The organization itself will survive. Let alone the ideology which you cannot kill. What you can do in successful states is to limit obscure ideologies such as that of ISIS, Nazism, Stalinism etc. to only involve a tiny irrelevant minority of the society who pose no overall threat.

The "real" battle is a very different battle altogether. It's a battle that involves the future of Syria and Iraq as nation states. If those two states were stable, successful and democratic states there would be no ISIS. Groups like ISIS and similar ones only succeed in failed states.

So much for pre-civil war Syria being an example to follow for the ME that some ignorants (non-Arabs even) here on PDF propagandize at times. What a successful legacy that regime left in Syria.

We see that in Nigeria with Boko Haram, Afghanistan with Taliban, Somalia with Al-Shabaab etc.

Even if ISIS disappeared tomorrow and all those other groups the fundamental problems in those states would remain and even worse organizations will appear in the future if progress is not made by those states.

Why is it that we don't see any ISIS or similar groups ruling half of the GCC and Turkey (arguably the most successful Muslim majority nations currently?) Why don't we see the Lord's Resistance Army in Italy but in Uganda? No need to elaborate why that is.

The possibility that Baghdadi would be killed in a skiing accident in the swiss mountains is higher than the possibility that he would be killed by the incompetent Iraqi Army.

Never say never. After all there are still many Sunni Arabs in the Iraqi army. Especially officers. The Shia Arab lot in Iraq never were able to fight at large hence they never ruled Iraq until the Americans enabled them to do so.

 

[Vassnti]

The possible death of Al-Baghdadi is completely irrelevant in the wider picture. He dies and a successor will replace him. Just like before his appointment. The organization itself will survive. Let alone the ideology which you cannot kill. What you can do in successful states is to limit obscure ideologies such as that of ISIS, Nazism, Stalinism etc. to only involve a tiny irrelevant minority of the society who pose no overall threat.
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Though if, he is dead and if Fadel Ahmed Abdullah al-Hiyali is really dead it leaves Abu Ali al-Anbari next in the chain of command and a fairly major reshuffle of who is in charge of where. Every ex saddam officer that is lost degrades the ability of ISIS and turns it more in to a bunch of foreign opportunists.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Though if, he is dead and if Fadel Ahmed Abdullah al-Hiyali is really dead it leaves Abu Ali al-Anbari next in the chain of command and a fairly major reshuffle of who is in charge of where. Every ex saddam officer that is lost degrades the ability of ISIS and turns it more in to a bunch of foreign opportunists.

Forget about the names. A good leader can only do so much. Like in any successful organization experienced members will pass on their knowledge to their future successors. It has already happened.

Al-Baghdadi is just the figurehead. Believe me.

The entire ISIS leadership is homegrown and so are most of the fighters. Foreigners are only used as cannon fodder. As long as Syria and Iraq are what they are currently there will not be any shortage of domestic support.

ISIS would not be able to control half of Iraq and Syria for this long (we are talking about almost 2 years now) with no domestic support. It's simply impossible.

Which again leads us to my main point in my initial post in this thread.

Forget about the religious angle entirely. ISIS is fighting against the status quo in those two countries (or whatever is left of them). One should always look at the greater picture and the leadership.

The leadership is entirely composed of ex-Ba'ath party members who know perfectly well that religion is the most useful tool to reach power quickly. If this was the 1970's they would have used "Arab nationalism" and "socialism" instead.

 

[bdslph]

armed by many countries love by many hated by many

wish the guy was dead if IRAQ could kill him Congrats because i would rather see Iraqi doing it
he did a lot of bad things

 

[opruh]

ISIS terrorists and the so-called moderate terrorists need to die a painful death.

 

[Madali]

Look at how the Saudis are indirectly showing their love for Al Baghdadi and ISIS. I don't understand why they don't right out and say it. Be honest & transparent.

 

[bdslph]

Confirmed:ISIL Leader Al-Baghdadi Injured, Guarded at Hospital by Militants

Read more: Confirmed:ISIL Leader Al-Baghdadi Injured, Guarded at Hospital by Militants

The Leader of the Islamic State Abu Bakr al-Bagdadi was injured in Iraqi Army's airstrike. Currently he is in a hospital, a local source confirmed to Sputnik Monday.
Earlier it was reported that the leader of the Islamic State (ISIL) jihadist group had been injured in an airstrike in Iraq.

why the iraqi did not send the special forces to capture the guy

 

[ultron]

The caliph has been wounded. Muslim unification foiled. The world is safe.

 

[bdslph]

The caliph has been wounded. Muslim unification foiled. The world is safe.

not only that the propaganda guy of ISIS is dead

 

[The Vicious Kind]

Daesh are the modern day "Kharjites " . I think its unfair to refer this takfiri group by the name of Islamic State. Its not an Islamic state in anyway.Its like calling North Korea , democratic republic just because it calls its self that.

This so called caliphate is an insult to the first caliphate . The so called caliph ,who calls himself "abu bakr", named after the first caliph , should read the rules of war set up by the first caliph.

Caliph Abu Bakr said ;

"O people! I charge you with ten rules; learn them well! Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone ".