Is Turkey the Punching Bag?

[Nein]

Top 10 places where there is refugees is in Asia and Africa.

While so many countries like Pakistan, Turkey, Uganda, Ethiopia, Jordan and Lebanon drowned with so many refugees.

The West just sat back started crying because a few thousand came. Irony is that europeans call the refugees invaders.

Refugee crisis is a global problem it has become worse thanks to you guys.

Turkey holds 3 million refugees but these Europeans have the audacity to give out so called Human rights lessons to Turkey. What a joke.

Mehmet Akif Ersoy was actually right about your kind.

 

[cabatli_53]

Not according to grammar rules. Capital letters are only used at beginning of a sentence

If it is done mistakenly, then correct your fault and make all believe. Otherwise, If you let me correct, I will consider it as provocation.

 

[Kiryu]

This is what I've heard on the US side: The reason Trump is on the warpath w/ Turkey was cuz Trump & Erdogan made a deal where Trump helps Turkey get back one of their citizens being held in Israel, and in return Turkey releases Brunson. Trump makes the call to Israel, Israel releases the Turkish citizen, Erdogan reneges and denies there ever was a deal. Trump feels betrayed, takes it personally, so the present situation.


What's the Turkish take on all this, from the public's POV? Because Trump doesn't really strike me as the type to do something for nothing

Brunson is a long term CIA agent and Ozkan is some relatively irrelevant muslim woman who supports Palestinians. The US couldnt persuade Turkey to let Brunson go before so I doubt such a trade of would of worked.
I think Erdogan has been set up here and I'm not a fan of him at all. The Turkish woman was arrested on trumped up charges. One charge for "smuggling" 3 bottles of perfume, yes perfume, to give to hamas so they can sell it for funding. The other charge was for a phone charger, and a third charge was of giving them $500. They even claim she was given $1000 to cover her expenses for giving them $500. Hamas pays a woman a grand to give Hamas 500 dollars. Come on!!
I doubt these charges would of held up in a court. So she was always set to be released. Trump says some nice things about Erdogan at the Nato summit making it appear like they agreed to something being cut from the same cloth and all, then boom. The woman is released and a narrative is set for the public.

"The good honest pastor being held hostage, christian defender trump made a deal to secure the good mans release by trading him for an evil hamas supporter, untrustworthy erdo reneged on his deal so trump had no choice but to sanction."

I'm not sticking up for Erdogan here, he can be very naive when you consider Gulen, the PKK peace deal etc. Personally, this is just the US deep state trying to get their man back. Turkey isn't going to release him without getting Gulen, Turkey made it clear they are willing to "trade" so the US came up with a trade story to use without giving away any of their men, Brunson or Gulen.

But it's important to note that Trump can only get away with it because Turkey allows it. The economy was always vulnerable and there to be exploited, lack of any vision or strategy in foreign policy and awful sycophantic advisors.

 

[Dinky]

Why don't turkey turn to other Muslim countries for support? Remember there's over 2 billion Muslims around the world and none of them can help? I'm sure their combined economic power can defeat the US.
@Offshore

Most muslim countries are US puppets

 

[kartal1]

You think my mobile phones autocorrect wants provocate?

With all due respect, you have gargantuan inflation. Your people lose their savings. Thats the problem and not capital letters.

Also i see not much respect here. They insult USA, Italy, France, Germany ect. Respect is not a one way street.

All the countries you listed supported terrorist and separatist organizations in Turkey and also in our neighbouring countries. The level of respect shown here is much than enough and you should even be amazed by it. Where was the last time when you talked with victim of Turkish sponsored terrorism in Italy because I talked with victim of Italian supported terrorism some months ago. Don't play with our patience! If the inflation is problem for me another problem is how you are writing "Turk". Don't play games here. All of the forum knows you and your intentions. I am telling you again. Nobody will tolerate your provocative behavior here so you write like a decent human being or you will face the consequences.

 

[Killuminati]

U.S making such stupid decisions for long-term policy. With this they will lose Turkey to SCO. If Turkey joins SCO there is no power that can stop that organisation. It will take control over petroleum. Arabs will accept the gold backed YUAN!

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Erdogan warned U.S by saying that Turkey will find new allies!

 

[Killuminati]

Very strong message by Ibrahim Kalin:

"The US runs the risk of losing Turkey as a whole. The entire Turkish public is against US policies that disregard Turkey's legitimate security demands. Threats, sanctions and bullying against Turkey will not work. It will only increase Turkey's resolve. But it will also further isolate the US in both Turkey and on the international scene,"

 

[TaiShang]

Erdogan warned U.S by saying that Turkey will find new allies!

I think he made a terrible historical-factual mistake on Cuban missile crisis in his NYT article today. Big academic embarrassment. Rather than his messages, people are talking about this mistake.

How come no one in the foreign department or the President's gigantic palace was able to spot it?

NYT had to publish a factual correction on his article.

 

[OguzSenturk]

How come no one in the foreign department or the President's gigantic palace was able to spot it?

He is a retard, so those who he hired in his palace are also retards. retards + retards = utmost retardation.

That is the summary of Turkey in last 18 years, and we are facing with results

 

[cabatli_53]

It seems US has given time Turkish Republic to release the guy until tomorrow 18:00. It seems US is ruled by drunkard bastards who supposes Turkish Republic as somewhere ruled by Arabian puppets in Gulf they are daily milking. How dare you? Who are you ? How can you threaten my country like that ?

 

[OldTwilight]

U.S making such stupid decisions for long-term policy. With this they will lose Turkey to SCO. If Turkey joins SCO there is no power that can stop that organisation. It will take control over petroleum. Arabs will accept the gold backed YUAN!

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Erdogan warned U.S by saying that Turkey will find new allies!

Well , we fooled ourselves with this kind of reasoning for many years ... in truth , SCO is one of main protector and supporter of USA ....

 

[Tiberius]

All the countries you listed supported terrorist and separatist organizations in Turkey and also in our neighbouring countries. The level of respect shown here is much than enough and you should even be amazed by it. Where was the last time when you talked with victim of Turkish sponsored terrorism in Italy because I talked with victim of Italian supported terrorism some months ago. Don't play with our patience! If the inflation is problem for me another problem is how you are writing "Turk". Don't play games here. All of the forum knows you and your intentions. I am telling you again. Nobody will tolerate your provocative behavior here so you write like a decent human being or you will face the consequences.

When and where did Italy make Terror in Turkey? We fight against terrorism.

Fact remains that Turkey economy is collapsing right now. Its also a problem for us, because it can damage our banks.

Also many of your companies try to get more Euro now. This raises the Stocks, we want it lower. We have no interest in your collapse. It disturbs us too.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

And that has been long reversed. And I asked you of those 'transit fees' you talked about. SOURCE!


Why are you even quoting Erdogan??? He didnt live in the 20's, he is post 2000! And these quotes dont even say anything in this subject!!


What military defence installations?? Why do you keep jumping from claims to other off-topic claims???

I AM STILL WAITING FOR SOURCES ON LOUSANNE ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED 'TRANSIT FEES' AND 'OIL EXPLORATION!! GO ON EXPLAIN WHAT THEY ARE AND PROVIDE SOURCE FOR THEM TOO!


Then next time dont believe everything you read on internet, and dont act like you know something when you dont, especially when confronted by people who are specifically educated on those subjects!

I answered your queries in my previous post. You can re-read it there. All sources are there as well as the stipulations of the Treaty of Lausanne.

 

[SALMAN F]

All what erdogan have to do is complying with the demands of trump

 

[Tiberius]

They said in news here Erdogan overplayed his cards and most likely will release Brunson in next days.