Is the US arming a terrorist organisation?

[Azadkashmir]

 

[TruthSeeker]

This is the old issue of one man's "terrorist" being another man's freedom fighter. Kurdish forces represent a true dilemma for people who believe in a people's right to self-determination (freedom), and the tactics they must use to secure such. Personally, I think the Turks are in the wrong with respect to the Kurds. It amazes me that Muslims who are so determined to support "occupied" Palestinians against the "Jews" do not see the parallel to the occupation of the Kurds by the Turks.

 

[MMM-E]

It amazes me that Muslims who are so determined to support "occupied" Palestinians against the "Jews" do not see the parallel to the occupation of the Kurds by the Turks.

TURKS took all Anatolia from Byzantine Empire ,,, not from the ugly smelly kurdish terrorists

no any Kurdish State in history

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

USA violating The Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) and Article 18 of Vienna Convention by supporting PKK(PYD)

- Article 18 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties (VCLT): Obligation Not To Defeat The Object And Purpose Of A Treaty Prior To Its Entry Into Force

- United States Signs Arms Trade Treaty on September 25, 2013

http://www.state.gov/t/isn/armstradetreaty/

- ATT entered into force on 24 December 2014

 

[HannibalBarca]

This is the old issue of one man's "terrorist" being another man's freedom fighter. Kurdish forces represent a true dilemma for people who believe in a people's right to self-determination (freedom), and the tactics they must use to secure such. Personally, I think the Turks are in the wrong with respect to the Kurds. It amazes me that Muslims who are so determined to support "occupied" Palestinians against the "Jews" do not see the parallel to the occupation of the Kurds by the Turks.

Because there is none...
Kurds are not foreign invaders... neither Turks...neither Arabs...
Those lands were on the hand of each of them throu' history... Right now it happen to be under Turks and Arabs... Simple as that...

As for your "self determination"... just ask yourself... what if a minority ask to have their own country, in another one country who happen to exist ...

It's like if I ask why not Native Indians have their own country in the Us... or Mexicans etc... see the biased logic?

As for Palestine... a Foreign entity came and took for himself... and still does...
So if Turks or Arabs came from EUrope in Kurdish lands and took it... by force hten Yes they have the right to fight for it..;and I will support it... But it' s not the case...

Yes Kurds in many countries int he region, had and still suffer from disciminations... that's a fact... and many don't...that's also a fact... But work need to be done in removing such discriminations...

 

[Lure]

This is the old issue of one man's "terrorist" being another man's freedom fighter.

Contrary to your post modernist adage, there is a clear definition of terrorist and terrorism in the international law. If you want to inform yourself regarding the issue, please read the necessary laws.

One man's "thief" may be another man's "Robin Hood". I will see you when someone steals your bike.

It amazes me that Muslims who are so determined to support "occupied" Palestinians against the "Jews" do not see the parallel to the occupation of the Kurds by the Turks.

Turks are in Anatolia since 1071. Israel was formed in 1948. USA was formed in 1776. Do you believe you are an occupier in the land that you live in? I'm living in this land 7 centuries (700 YEARS) more than you have been living in yours.

By the way, let me remind you that "Turkishness" is a national identity. Some of us may be actual descendants of Seljuk Turks, while others are Turkified endogenous people of Anatolia, but most of us are definitely a nice cultural and genetic mixture of Turkic people and Anatolian endogenous people. You can't talk that clearly about who came from where for the events that took place 1000 YEARS ago. You can't call people who are settled in a piece of land for 1000 YEARS as invaders. Can you even grasp how many generation had passed ever since?

If you ask me, I personally don't see Israel as an invader in their current land. But believe me, if Israel was in there for 1000 YEARS, no one would be seeing them as invaders anymore.

 

[damm1t]

Yet another clueless yankee who failed at seeking the truth...

 

[Beny Karachun]

TURKS took all Anatolia from Byzantine Empire ,,, not from the ugly smelly kurdish terrorists

no any Kurdish State in history

Change "TURKS" with Jews, "Anatolia" with Israel,"Byzantine Empire" with Jordan, Egypt and Syria, and "Kurdish State" with Palestinian state and that's exactly our argument. But Israel is evil and Turkey is not, hypocrisy.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Change "TURKS" with Jews, "Anatolia" with Israel,"Byzantine Empire" with Jordan, Egypt and Syria, and "Kurdish State" with Palestinian state and that's exactly our argument. But Israel is evil and Turkey is not, hypocrisy.

To be honest, people are always biased in some way. You don't expect them to support another country over a brotherly one do you? Lol
So I see nothing wrong in that per se. People will always be biased in some way and they will use any excuse to justify that. To expect the contrary is being naive.

 

[MMM-E]

Change "TURKS" with Jews, "Anatolia" with Israel,"Byzantine Empire" with Jordan, Egypt and Syria, and "Kurdish State" with Palestinian state and that's exactly our argument. But Israel is evil and Turkey is not, hypocrisy.

TURKS conquered Anatolia in 1071 and TURKS took all Anatolia from Byzantine Empire ,,, not from the ugly smelly kurdish terrorists

Turkish State and borders recognized by the United Nations
and PKK recognized as a terrorist organization by The US , the EU and many more countries


Israel is since 1948 and what about Israeli borders ? Israel occupied over 85% of Palestinian territory

Israel violated United Nations Security Council Resolutions by 1967

 

[Baybars Han]

This is the old issue of one man's "terrorist" being another man's freedom fighter. Kurdish forces represent a true dilemma for people who believe in a people's right to self-determination (freedom), and the tactics they must use to secure such. Personally, I think the Turks are in the wrong with respect to the Kurds. It amazes me that Muslims who are so determined to support "occupied" Palestinians against the "Jews" do not see the parallel to the occupation of the Kurds by the Turks.

Well, the native americans are being occupied by European settlers. Why don't they have the right to self-determination?

 

[T-123456]

This is the old issue of one man's "terrorist" being another man's freedom fighter. Kurdish forces represent a true dilemma for people who believe in a people's right to self-determination (freedom), and the tactics they must use to secure such. Personally, I think the Turks are in the wrong with respect to the Kurds. It amazes me that Muslims who are so determined to support "occupied" Palestinians against the "Jews" do not see the parallel to the occupation of the Kurds by the Turks.

You are a TTA on this forum and although your own secretary(Carter),a senator and general Thomas admit that the YPG is the Syrian branch of the PKK a terrorist organisation,you want freedom for the Kurds?
Do you think the YPG/PKK represents the Kurds and if so,how come out of the 15 million Kurds in my country they cant get any real support for the YPG in Syria?
Turks are no enemies of the Kurds,Turks are enemy of the PKK/YPG,get this in your head and next time TTA when you comment on issues you dont have a clue about,do some research first.

To be honest, people are always biased in some way. You don't expect them to support another country over a brotherly one do you? Lol
So I see nothing wrong in that per se. People will always be biased in some way and they will use any excuse to justify that. To expect the contrary is being naive.

Which one is the brotherly one?
You think Erdogan gives a sh!t about Palestine?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

U go Turkey Key arse.....

Natanyahu was shitting in his old age Pampers and went to India to hide

 

[Beny Karachun]

TURKS conquered Anatolia in 1071 and TURKS took all Anatolia from Byzantine Empire ,,, not from the ugly smelly kurdish terrorists

Turkish State and borders recognized by the United Nations
and PKK recognized as a terrorist organization by The US , the EU and many more countries


Israel is since 1948 and what about Israeli borders ? Israel occupied over 85% of Palestinian territory

Israel violated United Nations Security Council Resolutions by 1967

Wow you are such a hypocrite, I am not even going to respond because this is so obvious, also, your map isn't correct and was debunked thousands of times

U go Turkey Key arse.....

Natanyahu was shitting in his old age Pampers and went to India to hide

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Your Windows Powerpoint skills are amazing

You think Erdogan gives a sh!t about Palestine?

Seems like erd*gan gives a shit about it if he is so angry at us

 

[T-123456]

Seems like erd*gan gives a shit about it if he is so angry at us

Just politics,you are the best ''evil'' to get votes.