Is the Indian military incompetent?

[Beast]

I think you are stupid even to open a thread like this one..!

Indian military is a war winning, successful defence force that has defended the motherland from external enemies and also added territory by force.

LOL.. Yes, self delusion

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and then claim this thing as shot down proof of PAF F-16

Whoever believe Indian BS just refuse to accept reality of Indian military is not able to defend itself but self deceiving.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

After 1947 the territory of India has only increased and not decreased. Go look it up.

On the contrary, after 1948, India lost territory in 1962. The only territory India added after 1948 is Sikkim. But Sikkim annexation was by manipulation not by military. Sikkimese were told to vote for either monarchy or democracy. They weren't told that by democracy, it meant joining India.

 

[Jugger]

You have never won a war by yourself alone, despite being the second most populous country on earth. You have always had massive number advantage but the only time you succeeded in defeating a much smaller opponent, Pakistan was when you teamed up with Banglas to ambush the isolated Pakisatan Army in what is now Bangladesh. Without teaming up with Banglas your incompetent army cannot do anything. This infographic vividly show the huge number disparity [1 to 7] between Pakistan and India.

Despite the Maharajah giving all of Kashmir to India your army has failed to take the 1/3 portion that was occupied by Pakistan. Indeed instead of you taking the 1/3 as was given to you by the Maharajah [Instrument of Accession] it is Pakistan that is out to grab the 3/4 of Kashmir from you.

Any other large country would have mulched the smaller adversery, taken by force 1/3 Kashmir occupied by it in contravention of the Instrument of Accession and forever sobered and silenced the arrogant neighbour. Instead 70 years later this is what we see between the small Pakistan and giant India.

North Korea, being many many times smaller than USA is still a big pain in the rear.
I do consider Indo-pak scenario to be similar.
So is US military incompetent that it has not wiped out North Korea in the last 70 years..? I don’t think so..!

 

[IceCold]

Indian and Pakistani military both were inherited from the British Raj with experience in world war. I believe Indian military is competent, its just the hyperbole pressure that is created by the war mongering media on them where the capabilities that they possess are exaggerated vis-via Pakistan. Such over confidence made Pakistan pay the price in 71.

 

[Ryan]

On the contrary, after 1948, India lost territory in 1962. The only territory India added after 1948 is Sikkim. But Sikkim annexation was by manipulation not by military. Sikkimese were told to vote for either monarchy or democracy. They weren't told that by democracy, it meant joining India.

I think most have a fundamental misunderstanding of India. Yes I know, India is a democracy and all that. But this is a rather superficial understanding of the country. You might not have heard of India's territorial disputes in the news, but this doesn't mean India does not have them. In fact India (with the possible exception of Bangladesh, since I read that India and Bangladesh have reached an agreement to settle their borders this January) has not settled its borders with any of its neighbours. And worst, India has the dubious distinction of annexing every single of its neighbours land since it was created by the British in 1947. I know this may come as a shock to you, but here are the links you may want to check out:
1947 Annexation of Kashmir
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/02/06/indias-shame/
http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/kashmirs-young-rebels/
1949 Annexation of Manipur
http://www.tehelka.com/manipurs-merger-with-india-was-a-forced-annexation/
1949 Annexation of Tripura
http://www.crescent-online.net/2009...-in-india-zawahir-siddique-2316-articles.html
1951 Annexation of South Tibet:
http://kanglaonline.com/2011/06/khathing-the-taking-of-tawang/
http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article2582.html
1961 Annexation of Goa:
http://goa-invasion-1961.blogspot.in/2013/04/the-dirty-game-played-by-vk-krishna.html
1962 Annexation of Kalapani, Nepal:
http://www.eurasiareview.com/07032012-indian-hegemony-in-nepal-oped/
1962 Aggression against China:
http://gregoryclark.net/redif.html
http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/news-events/podcasts/renewed-tension-indiachina-border-whos-blame
1971 Annexation of Turtuk, Pakistan:
http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/suddenly-indian
1972 Annexation of Tin Bigha, Bangladesh
http://www.dhakatribune.com/op-ed/2014/feb/20/killing-fields
1975 Annexation of Sikkim (the whole country):
http://nepalitimes.com/issue/35/Nation/9621#.UohjPHQo6LA
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...-was-not-legal-wangchuk-namgyal/1/391498.html
1983 (Aborted) Attempted invasion of Mauritius
http://thediplomat.com/2013/03/when-india-almost-invaded-mauritius/
1990 (Failed) Attempted annexation of Bhutan:
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/10/07/world/india-based-groups-seek-to-disrupt-bhutan.html
2006 Annexation of Duars, Bhutan:
http://wangchasangey.blogspot.in/2015/11/different-kind-of-anxieties-on.html#comment-form
2013 Annexation of Moreh, Myanmar

 

[IceCold]

North Korea, being many many times smaller than USA is still a big pain in the rear.
I do consider Indo-pak scenario to be similar.

You can take Pakistan to be North Korea at your own peril. We know you are no USA.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

North Korea, being many many times smaller than USA is still a big pain in the rear.
I do consider Indo-pak scenario to be similar.
So is US military incompetent that it has not wiped out North Korea in the last 70 years..? I don’t think so..!

You dodging my question. Quoted below for your reference.

On the contrary, after 1948, India lost territory in 1962. The only territory India added after 1948 is Sikkim. But Sikkim annexation was by manipulation not by military. Sikkimese were told to vote for either monarchy or democracy. They weren't told that by democracy, it meant joining India.

 

[xyxmt]

Which territory added by force?

I would guess Indian Kashmir LOL

 

[Imran Khan]

Which territory added by force?

37,244 square kilometers of aksai chin in 1962
point5353 and many more peaks in 1999
13,297 km of azad jammu and Kashmir 1948
72,971 km of gilgit baltistan1948
Depsang Plains of 1962
Demchok 500 km of 1963
Trans-Karakoram Tract 5800km of 1962

and many more

 

[khansaheeb]

They have a long of manpower, but are the Indians just stupid and incompetent? The Australian Defense Forces are very small (tiny) with just 80,000 personnel but I am sure they aren't as stupid or as incompetent as the Indians.

We have just 80,000 active personnel and 21,694 active reservists, if India and Australia have a fight would Australia be able to hold the Indians off?

Ok Ozi.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

I would guess Indian Kashmir LOL

If you are busy and don't have time to read and you just skim, then don't reply to me. I said after 1948. Till 1950, events don't count. They were all orchestrated by the exiting British through their agents like Gandhi, Nehru etc. India and Pakistan were newly independent. They were still learning.

@Imran Khan

 

[Imran Khan]

If you are busy and don't have time to read and you just skim, then don't reply to me. I said after 1948. Till 1950, events don't count. They were all orchestrated by the exiting British through their agents like Gandhi, Nehru etc. India and Pakistan were newly independent. They were still learning.

@Imran Khan

what about letter on ?
37,244 square kilometers of aksai chin in 1962
point5353 and many more peaks in 1999
Depsang Plains of 1962
Demchok 500 km of 1963
Trans-Karakoram Tract 5800km of 1962

 

[xyxmt]

If you are busy and don't have time to read and you just skim, then don't reply to me. I said after 1948. Till 1950, events don't count. They were all orchestrated by the exiting British through their agents like Gandhi, Nehru etc. India and Pakistan were newly independent. They were still learning.

so instead of giving us information that we never heard of and leave it to our imagination, since we Pakistanis do not have such a good imagination as Indian. I would have expected you to tell us in your original post how many lands have Indian army conquered since 1950. When you say something which is a news for everyone, you better give complete information so no dares to bother you for more info.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

what about letter on ?
37,244 square kilometers of aksai chin in 1962
point5353 and many more peaks in 1999
Depsang Plains of 1962
Demchok 500 km of 1963
Trans-Karakoram Tract 5800km of 1962

I said added to India not lost by India.

 

[jetray]

They have a long of manpower, but are the Indians just stupid and incompetent? The Australian Defense Forces are very small (tiny) with just 80,000 personnel but I am sure they aren't as stupid or as incompetent as the Indians.

We have just 80,000 active personnel and 21,694 active reservists, if India and Australia have a fight would Australia be able to hold the Indians off?

yeah they are incompetent, hope that helps you and whichever enemy is casting a evil eye on us.

So when is Australia invading India? dont come alone , come with ppl who have experience like Pakistan.