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Is the Dalai Lama's 'reincarnation' in Arunachal Pradesh the real worry for the Chinese?

Lol since when India is listening to China's concern, the first day India harbored Dalai Lama in 1959 mean that India already played deaf about China...so don't blame us.

Dude...lama was hounded out. he is a freaking Buddhist monk.
These people are as harmless as puppies.

Anyway, it does not matter. You have used this excuse to support terrorists who attacked India. The same excuse is used everywhere to hinder us.

I feel it's only right for India to use the same excuses against China, which it has started doing slowly.
You know the trade agreement China wants India to desperately sign? ;) - yeah, it is gonna happen mate :D
 
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Dude...lama was hounded out. he is a freaking Buddhist monk.
These people are as harmless as puppies.
A buddhist monk should be focusing on religion and not supporting terrorist like Shoko Asahara
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Dude...lama was hounded out. he is a freaking Buddhist monk.
These people are as harmless as puppies.

Anyway, it does not matter. You have used this excuse to support terrorists who attacked India. The same excuse is used everywhere to hinder us.

I feel it's only right for India to use the same excuses against China, which it has started doing slowly.
You know the trade agreement China wants India to desperately sign? ;) - yeah, it is gonna happen mate :D

Dalai was master of slave owner in Tibet and wanted man but India thought to be the big brother of China so it can harbor without consequence...when India ignored China's concern, we merely ask for reciprocity...so don't blame us, and sure India can use any excuse but we will have our turn with excuse too.

As for trade agreement, I don't know what you're tryin to say, if we got trade surplus with India simply mean Indians love Chinese products:smitten: :dance3:
 
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As for trade agreement, I don't know what you're tryin to say, if we got trade surplus with India simply mean Indians love Chinese products

Indians will love any cheap products. if certain items are NOT available, they will go for next cheaper alternative.
Like I said, it's time India addressed this imbalance just like Trump is trying to.

And forget the trade agreement that China wants India to sign, it ain't happening, especially after what happened over last couple of years.
 
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A buddhist monk should be focusing on religion and not supporting terrorist like Shoko Asahara
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LOL, ask those Dorje Shugden how much Dalai mean to them :lol:


Indians will love any cheap products. if certain items are NOT available, they will go for next cheaper alternative.
Like I said, it's time India addressed this imbalance just like Trump is trying to.

And forget the trade agreement that China wants India to sign, it ain't happening, especially after what happened over last couple of years.

Sure no problem, what India can offer to China to reduce trade imbalance?
 
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There is going to be new Lama and there is nothing China can do about it.

It's time India start supporting Free Tibet movement more aggressively.

waiting on our PM to visit Taiwan and show the idiots..
You really don't have a clue about this dispute do you. The first sentence is the complete opposite of what both China and Dalai Lama wants.

As to support Free Tibet, go for it, we are at odds with the world's reigning superpower, but you know what bothers us, a nation with a per capita worse than Africa. You want to be taken seriously, don't be a joke.

It's not about daring mate..
It's about politics of it. There is no use in trying to accommodate a nation that is not willing to listen to our concerns.
Everyone is a Mr. nobody at some point in their lives but that hardly matters now, does it? ;)
It matters if you are still that.
 
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And it will be their eventual downfall.
There is enormous respect for Buddhism among Chinese people.
All one needs to do is watch Chinese movies to understand the impact Buddha had/has among them.

Chinese fascist govt can only control so much until it blows in their faces.

The problem is not the Chinese people but an attempted notion to segregate Tibetan form of Buddhism as a distinct version from the rest of what the Hans practise. Technically, both just provide multiple paths to attain salvation - a trait of Dharmic faiths to have multiple branches leading to the same roots.

Years of state enforced rules for everything has resulted in ignorance of these realities by the Chinese government.

The interesting thing is, HH doesn't want to separate from China but just wants that state atheism should be imposed in his state.

After this, I don't understand what does the CCP want.
 
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Atheists dont believe in reincarnation, yet they want to control it. Next what? Would they tell Xinjiang muslims to prey facing Beijing?

The list is getting weirder: The Govt will control what you see on internet, how you search on net, which app to use for chatting, which navigation app to use on road, can you conceive or not, who will reincarnate and where....
 
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Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama greets devotees at the Buddha Park in Bomdila, Arunachal Pradesh, India, April 5, 2017.

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NEW DELHI —
Tibetan spiritual leader the Dalai Lama has said it is up to the Tibetan people to decide whether the institution of the Dalai Lama will continue and that China cannot decide on his successor.

He said he will organize a conference to discuss the issue of the next Dalai Lama before the end of this year.

The Buddhist monk spoke Saturday at a news conference during a visit to the northeast Indian town of Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh state, which borders China. His weeklong visit has sparked anger in Beijing, which claims a chunk of the remote Himalayan state.

Question of successor

The question of who will replace the 81-year-old spiritual leader has gained prominence with Beijing having asserted that its communist leaders have the right to approve the next Dalai Lama as a legacy inherited from China’s emperors.

But the Dalai Lama said Chinese officials have no role in identifying his successor because they are atheists and do not believe in the concept of religion.

“That’s frankly speaking quite nonsense,” he said. “In order to (for the) Chinese government taking responsibility for reincarnation in general, particularly me, first Chinese communists should accept theory of rebirth.”

The Tibetan religious leader said nobody knows where the next Dalai Lama will be born or come from.

“I think at the time of my death, maybe some indication come, (but) as of this moment no indication,” he added.

Tibetan Buddhists believe the soul of a senior lama or Buddhist monk is reincarnated in the body of a child on his death.

Fate of the institution

Saying that a final decision on the fate of the institution would be taken when he reaches his late 80s or 90, the Dalai Lama said he wanted to convene a meeting of senior monks this year to start a preliminary discussion on his succession. He said the continuation of the tradition depends on the people.

“If concerned people feel now this institution (is) no longer relevant, then this institution [will] cease,” he said.

He did not rule out the possibility of the next Dalai Lama being a woman.

Importance of Tawang

The Dalai Lama’s visit to the sensitive border town of Tawang, home to a famous Buddhist monastery, is not his first. But Chinese objections have been far more strident this time with Beijing accusing New Delhi of arranging a platform for the Tibetan leader to “hold anti-China and separatist activities” and lodging an official protest. It has warned that the visit would hurt ties with India.

The Dalai Lama and Indian officials call his weeklong Tawang stop purely religious. The Tibetan monk said he wished a Chinese official had accompanied him to know the reality.

Jayadeva Ranade at New Delhi’s Center for China Analysis and Strategy believes the strong Chinese reaction stems from the fact that Tawang was the birthplace of the sixth Dalai Lama.

“The Chinese seem to be linking that with the next reincarnation and the location where the next reincarnation may be found. These are the reasons why they are getting more concerned,” he said.

The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet in 1959 after a failed Chinese uprising, resides in the northern Indian town of Dharamsala. China denounces him as a dangerous separatist.

He gave a spiritual discourse to tens of thousands of devotees and is scheduled to give more in the coming days in Tawang.

https://www.voanews.com/a/dalai-lama-china-cannot-decide-successor/3802673.html
 
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These are just hollow threats from China, just hot air, nothing substantial will come out of this eventually. We just need to be well prepared if by any chance China wants to really escalate it.
 
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BEIJING: April 12, 2017 21:22 IST
Updated: April 12, 2017 21:31 IST
http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...issue-china/article17958536.ece?homepage=true

Lu said that the that the “provocative” statements of the Tibetan leader “exceeded the scope of religious activities”.

China on Wednesday reiterated that the visit of the Dalai Lama will have a negative impact on Sino-Indian ties and accused New Delhi of breaching its commitment on the Tibet issue.

In response to a question, the Chinese foreign ministry also said Beijing will take “further action” to safeguard its territorial sovereignty.

The Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Lu kang took exception to statements by the Dalai Lama and the Chief Minister of Arunachal Pradesh Pema Khandu who had said in an interview that the state does not share its border with China, but Tibet. Analysts saw the statement as a violation of the “one China” principle that defines China’s statehood.

Mr. Lu said that the that the “provocative” statements of the Tibetan leader “exceeded the scope of religious activities”.

“What India has done is violated the solemn commitment on Tibet related issues and it also has negative impact on proper settlement of territorial disputes between the two sides through negotiations,” the spokesperson observed.

The foreign ministry pointed out that, “The boundary question, (and) Tibet related questions bear on the political foundation of China India relationship.”

“We have already reached important consensus of resolving the boundary dispute through negotiations and consultations.”

He added: “We also hope that the Indian side bear in mind the fundamental interests of the two countries and two peoples and safeguard the political foundation of the bilateral relationship and not take any provocative actions.”
 
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...inese-goods/story-gq7BZRppPii6SBH6IBx0PM.html

While Tibetan spiritual leader Dalai Lama’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh angered China, Tibetan diaspora has long lived with the paradox of fighting the Red Army’s control over their ‘homeland’ while selling Chinese goods for a living .

“Goods manufactured in China are being sold all over the world. We, too, are a part of ,” admits Tsering Choeden, head of the Tibetan traders’ association of the Tibetan refugee market. Tsering, 37, is a third-generation Tibetan refugee.

The Tibetan refugee market in Shimla has 76 shops and every other shop is stacked with Chinese merchandise.

“What choice do we have? We are refugees — we have to make a living and fend for our families. Whatever we get from Delhi, we sell it. Indian traders, too, get Chinese stuff,” says Palden, a shopkeeper.

“Not only in Shimla, Chinese goods are present is every market. We are not happy about selling them , but we have little choice,” Chukhi, another shopkeeper at the Tibetan market, laments.

There are nearly 200 families living in the two Tibetan settlements in Shimla, one in Sanjauli and the other in Kasumpti area, which also has a small handicraft unit .

“We keep meeting Chinese visitors who visit McLeodganj. There is a lot of Chinese merchandise here in McLeodganj,” said Lobsang Wangyal, director of Lo Wangyal Productions in Dharamshala.

‘Won’t sell Chinese products’

Despite the plethora of Chinese goods available in the market — China is India’s largest trade partner — there are still some Tibetans who refuse to sell Chinese products, instead choosing to only sell good manufactured by members of the exiled Tibetan community.

“I have never sold Chinese products . I only sell ethnic Tibetan goods,” says Tenzing, who runs a Tibetan handicraft shop on the Shimla Mall road .

When the 14th Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso, fled Lhasa in 1959 after the Chinese military invaded the erstwhile capital of Lhasa, scores of Tibetans followed him on foot during his 15-day journey to India. Dalai Lama reached Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh on March 1959. Many Tibetans, along with the Dalai Lama, settled in Mussourie initially and later shifted with him to Dharamshala, which is also the headquarters of the Tibetan government -in- exile.

It was on April 29,1959, that the Dalai Lama set up the Tibetan government-in-exile. Dalai Lama continues to strive for autonomy for the China-occupied Tibet.

Many Tibetans initially worked as labourers but, with the passage of time, set up their own businesses. The government-in-exile, with help from the Indian government, assisted Tibetans in setting up of refugee markets that are now present in many Indian states. There are 58 Tibetan settlements across the world — 39 major and minor settlements in India, 12 in Nepal and 7 in Bhutan.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/old-guns-let-down-hp-police/article18064191.ece

Report by CAG underscores the lapse in the strategically important State

Himachal Pradesh, which shares a boundary with Jammu and Kashmir and a porous International Border with China, depends on outdated arms to tackle crime, the Comptroller and Auditor-General of India said on Saturday.

Most of the police stations continue to depend on outdated and obsolete weapons such as .303 rifles and .455 revolvers instead of the prescribed 7.62 mm self-loading rifles (SLRs), the CAG said in its follow-up of performance audit on modernisation of police forces’ report.

Against the requirement of 9,074 SLRs of 7.62/5.56 mm range and 323 light machine guns (LMGs), there were 5,889 and 191 weapons, respectively, in the police department as on March 2016.

This indicated a shortfall of 35% in SLRs and 41% in light machine guns.


On fund utilisation

Besides, it said the department had not disposed of, or replaced, the old weapons with modern weaponry.

The CAG said that in 2009, there was 71% shortage of SLRs and and 88% of light machine guns in Himachal Pradesh.

At that time, 9 mm pistols were 221% in excess.


It also picked holes in utilising funds allocated by the Central government for police modernisation.

Between 2011 and 2016, Central funds ranging between 21% and 87% remained unutilised at the end of each financial year, the CAG added.

Smuggling of rare species of fauna and Chinese goods is reported frequently from Kinnaur and Lahaul-Spiti districts of Himachal Pradesh.
 
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http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...ys-china-foreign-ministry/article18076173.ece


Lu Kang said it was only in this way that “we can create a good atmosphere for the settlement of the boundary question”.

China said on Monday that the recent visit of the Dalai Lama to Arunachal Pradesh had a “negative impact” on Sino-India ties and New Delhi should not use the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader to “undermine” Beijing’s interests.

“Dalai Lama’s visit to Arunachal Pradesh had a negative impact on India-China ties. India should observe commitment on Tibet-related issues and should not use the Dalai Lama to undermine China’s interests,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang said.

He said it was only in this way that “we can create a good atmosphere for the settlement of the boundary question”.

The Chinese spokesman’s remarks came in response to India’s Ministry of External Affairs statement on Friday that there was no change in New Delhi’s position on Tibet being part of China. External Affairs Ministry spokesman Gopal Baglay has said India will continue to seek a fair and mutually acceptable solution to the vexed boundary issue.

Dalai Lama visited Arunachal Pradesh from April 4-11.
 
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