Is PTI losing support in Punjab and karachi?

[Jzaib]

i guss, wrong time , friend?
i was clear from the frist day, even before the elections, when you guys were celebrating the foolish khans victory as the next PM of pakistan?
even with the open support of the TTp killers in KPK, still PTI needs 1. JI as its sleeping masters to form a provincial govt in KPK?
what happened to the sunami on 13 may 2013? ohh went into the gutters? right?
& after his fall from the stage, foolish khan cant even find his place as the main opposition leader in fakly elected NA?
ever you tried to think , what happend wrong, why PTI been disgraced so down?
3. its all just because IMRAN,s foolish way of thinking, giving offices to TTp?
to the killers of, 60,000 innocent pakistanis?
4. man of peace, went into blankets with fear of failure, when was appointed as the negociator by the TTp dogs?
telling whole pakistan that hakkem ullha mehsud was just a innocent tribal?
5. my dear friend , if ever ALTAF have done that, you ill see me going against. MQM 1000 times more aggersive , at least on PDF & thats my promise?
but the fact is that, ALTAF was one of very few leaders, telling the nation from the begaining that, TTp are the worst kind of terrorists, & he still stands against them at least polticly?
why cant IMRAN can come up with a clear stand against TTp terroists & thier terrorism in which 60,000 pakistanis have losted thier lives ?
at least a small dharni in KPK, agianst the TTp killers? no ?
6. IMRAN KHAN unexperinces led his fall in politics & his fame is ALL time LOW because of his foolish open political support to TTP TERRORISTS, all over pakistan???
i gusss, i have explained as much as i can, READ my points politics is not above the nation, & pakistan?
i belive in PAKISTAN FRIST!
if you hve any thing else to say plz hit me, but if like to come up, with personal attacks then just remember im the very best of, the attackers on PDF, 7. im going to report you, then hit you back in a way which you never ever had thought before? TRY ME?
for me , you are a good patriotic pakistani, i think you like a brother but dont be mistaken you can use it as your godammmed advantge ?

puri post munafaqat aur fazool bataon se bari hoi ha ..let me highlight few and give a reality check.
1. as if ur party never joined a colation. They ever in every government . If NS wouldnt have 2/3 majority u would have been with them as well with them. PTI need support to form government nad they got it
2. as u r from MQM only postion matter to u .. ur party is always selling themself for ministries . ITs not what PTI and supporters want. We will not join hands with anyone we dnt see fit just for being power . Political prostition is done only by Fazlo and MQM.
3. Offices for peace process . Thse offices are just for communication btw government and TTP. bcoz communtion gap is also a big reason of this this conflict. media confuse thing so its better to have one place where offical stance can be recieved.
4. so he was nominated . so what? if state can have negociation with MQM why not TTP .. but are armed group and terrorism .. dnt be so baised
5. he is only worried bcoz now there is only more group which can effect his one city party . he was alone benificary of bhaata recieved in karachi . now there is a competition so that is why he had problem. we must not forget this letter to British government .. offer his man power to spy in pakistan . he is a tratitor.

6. how is he supporting TTP .? he thinks dialog is better option to deal with situation. so does every other party like PMLN PPP JUI ANP ... so why are u against imran?
7. im not scared of ur cyber treats . u can make my virtual Bori . i stand by my words .. many of us on PDF think u r mentally retarted

 

[Patriots]

the urban terrorists of karachi are hurt by losing grip on there base in karachi and feudals and industrialists are on turn based government and opposition

they want business as usual

they will keep wishing InshAllah

This is your wish that TTP could take control of Karachi ... That's the real wish of PTI because they know TTP won't contest in election and PTI will enjoy Karachi seats ... Such a pathetic wish ... Shame on you people .............

 

[darkinsky]

4. so he was nominated . so what? if state can have negociation with MQM why not TTP .. but are armed group and terrorism .. dnt be so baised

MQM is the part of the state, taliban is a banned organisation which doesn't except pakistani constitution, i think except PTI walas a normal human being can distinguish between the two

since when has the state done any negotiations with the MQM?

PTI and JI they are all taliban wings and deliberately want people to be misguided but im happy that PTI tricks is no longer brainwashing Pakistanis, who have realised the reality

 

[Patriots]

MQM is the part of the state, taliban is a banned organisation which doesn't except pakistani constitution, i think except PTI walas a normal human being can distinguish between the two

since when has the state done any negotiations with the MQM?

PTI and JI they are all taliban wings and deliberately want people to be misguided but im happy that PTI tricks is no longer brainwashing Pakistanis, who have realised the reality

Infact those PTI guys have been always talking about operation & crushing to MQM by force but they talk about peace talks for known & international terrorists .............

What a hypocrisy .................

 

[batmannow]

puri post munafaqat aur fazool bataon se bari hoi ha ..let me highlight few and give a reality check.
1. as if ur party never joined a colation. They ever in every government . If NS wouldnt have 2/3 majority u would have been with them as well with them. PTI need support to form government nad they got it
2. as u r from MQM only postion matter to u .. ur party is always selling themself for ministries . ITs not what PTI and supporters want. We will not join hands with anyone we dnt see fit just for being power . Political prostition is done only by Fazlo and MQM.
3. Offices for peace process . Thse offices are just for communication btw government and TTP. bcoz communtion gap is also a big reason of this this conflict. media confuse thing so its better to have one place where offical stance can be recieved.
4. so he was nominated . so what? if state can have negociation with MQM why not TTP .. but are armed group and terrorism .. dnt be so baised
5. he is only worried bcoz now there is only more group which can effect his one city party . he was alone benificary of bhaata recieved in karachi . now there is a competition so that is why he had problem. we must not forget this letter to British government .. offer his man power to spy in pakistan . he is a tratitor.

6. how is he supporting TTP .? he thinks dialog is better option to deal with situation. so does every other party like PMLN PPP JUI ANP ... so why are u against imran?
7. im not scared of ur cyber treats . u can make my virtual Bori . i stand by my words .. many of us on PDF think u r mentally retarted

reported, offtopic deralling the thread?
i told you, i warrand you?
im not a member of any political party in pakistan?
many of PDF peoples these days thinks that whole bunch of burger bacha,s are as foolish as thier leader IMRAN KHAN the TTp terrorists supporter is?
whole of pakistans patriotic peoples are sad on the murdered 23 FC soilders by the hands of TTp dogs, but here it is,?
IMRAN & his foolish army of scumbags like you, still trying to defend & support TTp terrorists?
how about IMRAN bieng Musharaf,s govt?
ohh no you dont want to know that?
cause that time, his party was virtully non existing?
no other party seriously supports stupid peace dialoges, & IMRAN with all of his fast bowling experinces, cant think about what militancy means?
yes just fast bowling experinces, what else he got? more then that?
ohh playboy experinces?lolzzz
or begging all over world experinces, cause thats what he do, best?
if whenever MQM STARTS BEHEADING pakistani soilders, sucide attacks on masjids, immam bargahs, churches, & start rejecting the constitution of pakistan that day, i will kill as much i could the MQMERS?

BUT FOR NOW, MQM is standing with pakarmy calling for the the opreation to kill the TTp dogs, i respect them for thier patriotic political stance in favour of pakistani peoples & PAKARMY?
that is the reason thats its popularity is getting up in the minds & hearts of the pakistani peoples?
& PTI is in deep gutter sunami, in karachi , in punjab even in KPK!
waiting to go to hell where, BAIT ULLHA & HAKEEM ULLHA MEHSUD be waiting for thier times in the sea of fire?
go join them, cause in pakistan, PTI & JI, JUI ,s time is over & all?
how about opening of the offices of TTp? tell IMRAN to give a statment again?
so that his own partymen like ASAD UMAR can reject?lolzzzz
BTW when going to show how much of 300 million USD, given to buy weapons for TTp?
in return of thier terrotistic support to PTI, JI?
why other parties targeted, & why not PTI wasnt targeted? daal mien saab kuch kallaa?lolzz
american pakistanis wants to know?lolzz
come back & get more?lolzzz
but stay at topic, TTp supporter?

 

[shuntmaster]

Taliban Take Toll on Pakistan's Biggest City
Militants Claim Responsibility for Deadly Karachi Blast, Extending Hold Despite Government Crackdown
By
SAEED SHAH and SYED SHOAIB HASAN, Updated Feb. 13, 2014 8:29 p.m. ET

A security official stands guard at the site of Thursday's deadly bombing of a vehicle carrying police officers in a Karachi neighborhood controlled by the Pakistani Taliban. The attack killed at least 12 officers. Reuters



KARACHI, Pakistan—The Pakistani Taliban have tightened their grip over the country's commercial hub, officials and residents said, despite a five-month government crackdown here.

On Thursday, tentative peace talks with the government were thrown into disarray when the militants claimed responsibility for a roadside bombing that killed at least 12 police officers when the bus taking them to duty was destroyed near the city's southeastern Landhi neighborhood, an area the Taliban dominate.

Karachi is likely to pay a steeper price if efforts by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's government to forge a peace deal with the al Qaeda affiliate's leadership in tribal areas collapse and a military operation is launched there.

"If the peace talks fail, we fear that a big terrorism wave will hit Karachi," said Raja Umar Khattab, a senior officer in the counterterrorism Crime Investigation Department of the Karachi police.

The Pakistani Taliban are a national threat, with Karachi providing the group a vital financial lifeline. Money raised in Karachi from extortion, land-grabbing, kidnapping and robberies is sent to the group's leadership in the tribal areas along the Afghan border, security officials said.

The January assassination of Karachi's most prominent counterterrorism police officer, Chaudhry Aslam, showcased the militants' reach and had a chilling effect on the police force, officers said.

"Everyone now is at a loss about who will step into Chaudhry Aslam's shoes," said Omar Shahid Hamid, a senior counterterrorism officer now on leave. "He had become a symbol, someone who is standing up to [Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan]

In January, the militant group attacked police officers, shot and killed three journalists, repeatedly bombed paramilitary Rangers who are helping carry out the crackdown, gunned down three polio-vaccination workers, and slit the throats of six devotees visiting a shrine. Karachi police said 27 officers were killed in January, after 168 were killed last year.

Mr. Sharif, concerned that his economic-revival plans would be undermined by spreading mayhem, initiated the security operation in September. Karachi, a fast-growing city of at least 20 million, has a huge industrial base, the country's only major port and is the nation's center of banking and finance.

Some officers said they fear local political support is fading for the Karachi operation, which they view as a last chance to regain control of the city from TTP and other militias. The operation's implementation depends largely on the Sindh provincial government, which is run by the opposition Pakistan Peoples Party, and which controls Karachi's police. There are signs of tension between the Rangers, who answer to Islamabad, and the provincial government, which is based in Karachi, security officials and politicians said.

"This is a difficult path," said Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, visiting Karachi on Thursday. "But, God willing, we will bring peace back to Karachi."

Ahmed Chinoy, head of the Citizens Police Liaison Committee, a statutory body that works with the police to reduce crime, said parts of Karachi were still too dangerous for regular patrols, while the crackdown targeted regular crime. "While the focus of the operation was on other crimes, the militants got breathing space and took advantage."

Last year, five different police chiefs served Karachi, disrupting the battle against crime. The current chief, Shahid Hayat, said that at any given time, he had about 7,000 officers available to be deployed on the streets, out of a total force strength of 27,000—9,000 officers are kept on personal security duty for politicians and other officials.

It is only in recent weeks, he added, that the operation has shifted focus to jihadi groups such as TTP.

"I'm being asked to control Karachi with such small numbers of police," said Mr. Hayat. "Policemen are being killed day in, day out. But we're still fighting."

More than 13,000 people have been arrested in the sweep since September, in more than 10,000 raids by police and the paramilitary Rangers force, the provincial Sindh government said. But officials and residents said it has left largely untouched the poor outlying neighborhoods that remain under TTP control, encircling the city, including one adjacent to the new U.S. Consulate compound.

TTP is the most aggressive armed group operating in multiethnic Karachi, alongside the ethnic Baluch gangs in Lyari, and the Muttahida Qaumi Movement, a party that represents the descendants of Muslim migrants from current India, and that has traditionally dominated Karachi politics.

The Karachi security operation led to the arrest of just 63 TTP members through the end of January, police said. That compared with the arrest of 296 people affiliated with the MQM, 101 with links to the Awami National Party—a secular Pashtun political party—and 171 members of Lyari gangs.

Sharfuddin Memon, the adviser to the Sindh provincial chief minister on security issues, said the operation had led to a 50% drop in assassinations and kidnapping for ransom in the city. He said police "morale is high" but the conviction rate for serious crimes is just 5%.

"There has been an impact from the operation, but if we don't sustain it, we are in trouble," said Mr. Memon.

Research by The Wall Street Journal, based on conversations with security officials and urban planners, shows TTP still control or dominate about 470 square miles of Karachi, or nearly a third of its area, where at least 2.5 million people live.

TTP's sway in Karachi extends right up to Saddar—the city center—and into areas such as Sultanabad, a ramshackle community next to the new U.S. Consulate compound.

These are districts with a majority population of Pashtuns, the same ethnic group as TTP's leadership. These areas that encircle the city include Baldia and the Sindh Industrial Trading Estate to the west and Gadap in the north. Residents in these areas said TTP's hold had gotten stronger over the past year.

 

[Hyperion]

PTI already lost my support.........

 

[batmannow]

PTI already lost my support.........

thanks for sharing the reality, thanks for not supporting it?
thanks for supporting your nation, & your country, which is above everything?

 

[Jzaib]

reported, offtopic deralling the thread?
i told you, i warrand you?
im not a member of any political party in pakistan?
many of PDF peoples these days thinks that whole bunch of burger bacha,s are as foolish as thier leader IMRAN KHAN the TTp terrorists supporter is?
whole of pakistans patriotic peoples are sad on the murdered 23 FC soilders by the hands of TTp dogs, but here it is,?
IMRAN & his foolish army of scumbags like you, still trying to defend & support TTp terrorists?
how about IMRAN bieng Musharaf,s govt?
ohh no you dont want to know that?
cause that time, his party was virtully non existing?
no other party seriously supports stupid peace dialoges, & IMRAN with all of his fast bowling experinces, cant think about what militancy means?
yes just fast bowling experinces, what else he got? more then that?
ohh playboy experinces?lolzzz
or begging all over world experinces, cause thats what he do, best?
if whenever MQM STARTS BEHEADING pakistani soilders, sucide attacks on masjids, immam bargahs, churches, & start rejecting the constitution of pakistan that day, i will kill as much i could the MQMERS?

BUT FOR NOW, MQM is standing with pakarmy calling for the the opreation to kill the TTp dogs, i respect them for thier patriotic political stance in favour of pakistani peoples & PAKARMY?
that is the reason thats its popularity is getting up in the minds & hearts of the pakistani peoples?
& PTI is in deep gutter sunami, in karachi , in punjab even in KPK!
waiting to go to hell where, BAIT ULLHA & HAKEEM ULLHA MEHSUD be waiting for thier times in the sea of fire?
go join them, cause in pakistan, PTI & JI, JUI ,s time is over & all?
how about opening of the offices of TTp? tell IMRAN to give a statment again?
so that his own partymen like ASAD UMAR can reject?lolzzzz
BTW when going to show how much of 300 million USD, given to buy weapons for TTp?
in return of thier terrotistic support to PTI, JI?
why other parties targeted, & why not PTI wasnt targeted? daal mien saab kuch kallaa?lolzz
american pakistanis wants to know?lolzz
come back & get more?lolzzz
but stay at topic, TTp supporter?

how r v defending it. dont give me BS .. give a logical answer .. no stupid 10 lines with no even a single point.

Infact those PTI guys have been always talking about operation & crushing to MQM by force but they talk about peace talks for known & international terrorists .............

What a hypocrisy .................

give me a source of court ... btw not even PTI our army, police intelligence, even british police know nthat mqm supporters are bhatta mafia and target killers

 

[batmannow]

how r v defending it. dont give me BS .. give a logical answer .. no stupid 10 lines with no even a single point.


give me a source of court ... btw not even PTI our army, police intelligence, even british police know nthat mqm supporters are bhatta mafia and target killers

if you got good brains, & pairs of goddamed eyes, you wouldnt be writting the 2 lines, but as i understand, your biasd mind cant accept, the foolishness of the idiot leader you got?soo cheers?lolzzx

 

[Jzaib]

PTI already lost my support.........

if you got good brains, & pairs of goddamed eyes, you wouldnt be writting the 2 lines, but as i understand, your biasd mind cant accept, the foolishness of the idiot leader you got?soo cheers?lolzzx

answer the question i asked .. how is PTI supporting TTP .. give prove or else shutup

 

[Hyperion]

When did I say PTI is supporting TTP?

Paaa G, subha subha Peetola to nahin' pee kay aaye?

answer the question i asked .. how is PTI supporting TTP .. give prove or else shutup

 

[Jzaib]

When did I say PTI is supporting TTP?

Paaa G, subha subha Peetola to nahin' pee kay aaye?

na i wish i would have .. i was asking batman now .. i dnt knw who u cameup in reply .. may be i still have some effect of weed i had last night

 

[Rafael]

PTI is loosing its support fast indeed. If it continues to support 'peace talks', they might as well loose my vote!

 

[Tameem]

PTI is loosing its support fast indeed. If it continues to support 'peace talks', they might as well loose my vote!

Indeed, that's true and not only you but some other supporters of IK here in PDF too losing hope.
Actually i know a PDF active Moderator who made following remarks in another forums siasat.pk as follows;

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I ran a political wing of PTI in Australia, also started and ran a Pakistani student organization in a University, collected funds during elections and did my bit, and i travel quite often even though i live in Pakistan now.

I have to say that some of our Insafians are the most ignorant people you can come across. They are empty of all levels of civility.

Parliament maybe corrupt, untrustworthy and illogical, but it is the constitutional body of our country. We must always have our parliamentarians representing the people not, rag tag closet terrorists.
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