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That is a completely nonsensical extrapolation. That Pakistan hasn't fired its missiles at India somehow suggests an inherent lack of functionality of said missiles? That Pakistan has not fired its missiles at India is the reason India continues its belligerence towards Pakistan?

On both counts, you have drastically simplified the realities at play.

USSR and USA never fired missiles at each other. Were they incapable of liquidising each other? Would limited shows of force by one have reduced the belligerence towards them by the other? I think you're assuming Iran scared USA away, while in reality, USA got what it wanted, Israel got what it wanted, and Iran is still feverishly hunting for someone to execute to try and balance its books.

Pakistan and India are not superpowers like US and USSR that we can make a threat and everyone will believe it.

US nuked Japan twice and then rest of the world took US seriously. That is called deterrence.

For small countries like Pakistan and India, only way other side will believe your threat is if you do it. Otherwise, its just bluff. You need to carry out some real threats to create hard power deterrence so other side takes your threats seriously. When Iran says they'll fire missiles at US airbases, US takes it seriously because Iran has a proven record of not being afraid to carry out their threats.

If we fire a few missiles at India, then they will take our threats seriously and stop these attacks.
 
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Bring back these guys....

- Raheel Sharif (COAS)
- Sohail Aman (AC)
- M. Zakaullah (NC)
- Rizwan Aktar (ISI) & Naveed Mukhtar (V Corp + ISI)
- Bilal Akbar (Rangers)
- Zubair Halat (SPD)
- Asim Saleem Bajwa (ISPR)
- Janjua (NSA)

Man in uniform rules without Coup or extension

then YES!

Extension walay sirf ******apa he saartay hain... thats what history tells us!
 
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If we fire Bajwa and get a more aggressive COAS who implements cyber, drone, missile, space strategy.

Then Yes.
So bajwa won't do all of that.
And that coas of your choosing would also have all those toys you mentioned from the sky?
 
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To be honest Pakistan does not have a missile strategy. We have missiles but we never use them.

Has Pakistan fired a ballistic or cruise missile at India even once?

Look at Iran, they fire ballistic and cruise missiles at their enemies all the time and nobody messes with them.

Missiles are made to be used. Pakistan needs to stop storing its missiles and start using them like Iran.
We use the "art of fighting without fighting". Our deterrence is sufficient at the moment and any thought of direct attack on Pakistan was put down when India initiated operation Brass Track. Unable to attack Pakistan directly India has decided on the clandestine route.
 
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So bajwa won't do all of that.
And that coas of your choosing would also have all those toys you mentioned from the sky?

If we can just get a more aggressive COAS even that will be a big accomplishment

Cyber, drone, missile, and space strategy will be adopted across the board once Pakistan has a more aggressive COAS
 
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If we can just get a more aggressive COAS even that will be a big accomplishment

Cyber, drone, missile, and space strategy will be adopted across the board once Pakistan has a more aggressive COAS
Make CH Fawad as COAS just something same like USA.
 
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In Randi kay bachon kay paas kaap waam kuch naheen thook mein pakooray pakatay rehtay hein. Jin bhartoi fojion nay larna hai un ki man mari hui hai

Dear Members, please express your thoughts on below video. I think its a very serious issue if India decides a surprise and sudden all out attack on Pakistan from multiple fronts like Kashmir, Lahore, From Rajasthan to cut off Sindh & Karachi as well as from Afghanistan. I think there will be no attack from Iranian side.
 
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I think very soon India or say Modi can attack Pakistan to save the face from current losses from China as they consider Pak as a soft target and frustration in Indian masses is visible after the killings in Nepali Security Force attacks. They are the followers of Chanakiya and use all deceiving tactics to break Pakistan. They can give many surpises to Pakistan by multi frontal attacks, attack from sea on Karachi, Port Qasim and Gwadar, attacks involving US and Israeli air forces to destroy or capture Pak nukes and gain superiority over Pak skies, weapons dropping to terrorist in Tribal areas, Blochistan and supplying weapons to MQM and Sindhi nationalists, Shias of Parachinar and Gilgit Baltistan, destruction of Pak airfields in inital phase in surprise missile attacks as Pakistan lacks an advanced multi layer air defene system or ballistic or cruise missile defence system.
 
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Dear Members, please express your thoughts on below video. I think its a very serious issue if India decides a surprise and sudden all out attack on Pakistan from multiple fronts like Kashmir, Lahore, From Rajasthan to cut off Sindh & Karachi as well as from Afghanistan. I think there will be no attack from Iranian side.
Pakistan has 17 helicopters, for God sake!
 
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If we can just get a more aggressive COAS even that will be a big accomplishment

Cyber, drone, missile, and space strategy will be adopted across the board once Pakistan has a more aggressive COAS
How?
I seriously wanted to understand that?
What aggressiveness general raheel shows? By pardoning nawaz and his daughter on dawn leaks?
Bajwa atleast started the process of fencing which no previous amry chiefs have balls to do.
If we have such recklessness agressivness among our military leadership then, Allah hi hafiz. All those things a kid like you mentioned would come when you have money.
Not with aggression.
 
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They won't even be left with dead bodies to bury. Instant vaporization.
 
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We use the "art of fighting without fighting". Our deterrence is sufficient at the moment and any thought of direct attack on Pakistan was put down when India initiated operation Brass Track. Unable to attack Pakistan directly India has decided on the clandestine route.

I would believe that if Pakistan utilized cyber warfare since that is "fighting without fighting"

But Pakistan does not utilize cyber warfare which is a disgrace. Cyber is the easiest way to attack the enemy, we should be doing the bare minimum which is cyber

And no Pakistan's deterrence is not sufficient.

If Pakistan actually had good deterrence, we would not be having these Indian attacks because they would be afraid to do anything.

A strong and robust cyber, drone, missile, and space doctrine would be more than enough to keep India afraid enough to even think about touching Pakistan. That is how to do deterrence. You need overwhelming asymmetric power over your enemy. Call it Pakistan CDMS doctrine. Right now Pakistan has strong conventional capability but it does not have any asymmetric capability. You MUST have a strong asymmetric capability to take on a larger enemy. This is defence basics 101. Cyber weaknesses of Pakistan are already starting to be exposed by hackers, and still Pakistan has done nothing to improve it.
 
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How?
I seriously wanted to understand that?
What aggressiveness general raheel shows? By pardoning nawaz and his daughter on dawn leaks?
Bajwa atleast started the process of fencing which no previous amry chiefs have balls to do.
If we have such recklessness agressivness among our military leadership then, Allah hi hafiz. All those things a kid like you mentioned would come when you have money.
Not with aggression.

I don't think even Raheel was aggressive enough.

Some really tough and aggressive action against India is needed to remind them that Pakistan is not like India's other weak neighbors that can just be bullied into submission.

Pakistan is classic example of a country that has fallen into nuclear trap. Pakistan becomes so comfortable with nukes that the answer to every problem is nukes. Meanwhile, rest of Pakistan's actual defence strategy against India goes in dustbin, hence why non-nuclear countries like Iran and Turkey are way ahead of us now with cyber, drones, missiles, and space program because they don't have nukes and have to make actual defence strategy that works.

Older people in Pakistan will remember the days back when Pakistan was aggressive and wasn't afraid to fight a war. After nukes, Pakistan became too soft on India.
 
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