Is Pak sending fighter jets to Libya?

[Village life]

pakistan can not send anything without parliament approval now . forget this story now .

Na kr Bhai please, platelets wala bhi poch gya tha parliament sy ?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

As for the brain storming, if true it leaves nothing to imagination! It may possibly imply also the following:

• At the strategic level, there are damn deep cooperation, communication, cohesion etc. even for the Plan A
• Critical Turkish and Pak systems, like links, EW etc., are inter-operable
• Turkish and Pak military industrial complexes are complementary to each other to an extent
• At the field level, the General Staffs are confident that their subordinates can work together. Now, it's much easier said than done, especially for the folks with their very own custom built mindsets, personalities, view points, modes/memory/history of operation etc.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I really dont believe Turkey is in such a dire straits in regards to Libya that they would need our assistance . They pretty much have this fight in their pockets. As for sending troops overseas gone are the days where these decisions were taken in closed doors. Any intervention in foreign country will be through parliament approval.
Now my on 2 cents on this is that i really dont have any doubt that Pakistan will depoly its forces in aid of Turkey (due to brotherly relations) and KSA ( well you know this one) if their territorial integrity was under threat.

This war is going to last 10 or 20 more years, I would rather see the country split into two sides.

Haftar as always said was a clown and buffoon besides this guy is old and spent most of his life opposing the Jamahiriyaa regime under Gaddafi while the CIA from Langley furnished Haftar *** for years too bad the Libyans dont got any good choices both the GNA and LNA suck tho rumors are swirling Saif Gaddafi might make a comeback anyways it all up in the air

 

[In arduis fidelis]

This war is going to last 10 or 20 more years, I would rather see the country split into two sides.

Honestly speaking thats your sentiment. On ground fact is that Turkey can have Libya under one government within a month if they fully committed to it and i doubt Egyptians or any other country will come out in open opposition as Turkey is being sponsored by UN backed government rest all is personal bias and sentiments.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

As for the brain storming, if true it leaves nothing to imagination! It may possibly imply also the following:

• At the strategic level, there are damn deep cooperation, communication, cohesion etc. even for the Plan A
• Critical Turkish and Pak systems, like links, EW etc., are inter-operable
• Turkish and Pak military industrial complexes are complementary to each other to an extent
• At the field level, the General Staffs are confident that their subordinates can work together. Now, it's much easier said than done, especially for the folks with their very own custom built mindsets, personalities, view points, modes/memory/history of operation etc.

If Pakistan wants to start pushing its weight in the region, this is pretty much given.

It is not a matter of if, but when.

Pakistan and Turkey share the same goals in the region, which is to maintain normalcy and to prevent sectarianism.

Honestly speaking thats your sentiment. On ground fact is that Turkey can have Libya under one government within a month if they fully committed to it and i doubt Egyptians or any other country will come out in open opposition as Turkey is being sponsored by UN backed government rest all is personal bias and sentiments.

Libyan flag. What do you guys think is the basis for this flag?

 

[Philip the Arab]

Honestly speaking thats your sentiment. On ground fact is that Turkey can have Libya under one government within a month if they fully committed to it and i doubt Egyptians or any other country will come out in open opposition as Turkey is being sponsored by UN backed government rest all is personal bias and sentiments.

Nope, the country is very tribal and they all hate eachother. Thats not going to happen bud.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Nope, the country is very tribal and they all hate eachother. Thats not going to happen bud.

Lol. Haftar doesn't speak for all of Libya.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Lol. Haftar doesn't speak for all of Libya.

Im not sure you are aware of just how tribal Libyans are. Gaddafi held them together by a thread and you saw what happened.

 

[Yankee-stani]

If Pakistan wants to start pushing its weight in the region, this is pretty much given.

It is not a matter of if, but when.

Pakistan and Turkey share the same goals in the region, which is to maintain normalcy and to prevent sectarianism.



Libyan flag. What do you guys think is the basis for this flag?

Real Libyan flag

Im not sure you are aware of just how tribal Libyans are. Gaddafi held them together by a thread and you saw what happened.

By very thin thread but hey at least Libya was a functioning state

 

[In arduis fidelis]

Nope, the country is very tribal and they all hate eachother. Thats not going to happen bud.

Lol i know all about "Tribalism". I deal with it on everyday basis. Simply put its just an accepted way of fighting over which family gets the biggest chuck of money from local resources. Line all of their pockets with some dough, crush the rest with hard hitting power projection and voila you got a happy functioning country with no tribals whatsoever.
Again i repeat If Turkey fully commits Libya is good as one.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Im not sure you are aware of just how tribal Libyans are. Gaddafi held them together by a thread and you saw what happened.

Qaddafi started going insane with his attacks on protesters, just like Assad.

Not many in Libya remember him fondly.

I know some of the people connected with the present government.

Lol i know all about "Tribalism". I deal with it on everyday basis. Simply put its just an accepted way of fighting over which family gets the biggest chuck of money from local resources. Line all of their pockets with some dough, crush the rest with hard hitting power projection and voila you got a happy functioning country with no tribals whatsoever.
Again i repeat If Turkey fully commits Libya is good as one.

All these disruptive powers funding Hafter can just delay the inevitable

 

[Philip the Arab]

Qaddafi started going insane with his attacks on protesters, just like Assad.

Not many in Libya remember him fondly.

I know some of the people connected with the present government.

Tribes hate eachother, they would rather have their own countries so give them what they want. There is nothing wrong with having multiple Libyas.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Lol. Haftar doesn't speak for all of Libya.

Haftar is looking for countries to take asylum..

The Russian foreign minister and the defense minister were en route to Turkey yesterday to discuss the future of Haftar and to divide Libya to make it another Syria! Their proposal was rejected while their plane was over Crimea, and it turned back! Turkey is that serious about Libya...

Relentlessly "cargoes" are being sent. Eight hour long joint air and naval exercises are being held with frigates, sub-marines, F-16s, tankers, AWACS etc. off the coast of Libya!! And, the air bases in Vatiye and Mistara are being readied for the Turkish Air Force assets. Tanks, SPGs, MRLs, EW systems, Air Defense systems etc. along with the Special Forces are being sent. And, they're being positioned around Sirt, Jufra etc. Either the current Turkish establishment will take Libya, or Libya will take them!! As for finding the equivalence to the jargons of the Pak folks, it's like "Direct Action", "Now or Never", "Eat Grass", "We will not think to retaliate, but will retaliate", "You will not be able to surprise us, we will surprise you" etc. moments...

As for the opponents (Haftar/France/Russia/UAE/Egypt etc.), even Nehru/Patel/Gandhi etc. had much more Iman and Ihlas....

Dont mind.

Tired of being stuck in the shitty neighbour we live in and its conflicts. Need to broaden our horizon.

Fortune favors the brave...

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Fortune favors the brave...

Exactly kardeşim. It is time for Pakistan and Pakistanis to step out of our comfort zone. It is our region also, all the way from Kashmir to Morroco, from Sahara to Albania. Pakistani presence should be felt everywhere.

Being involved in only Somalia, Bosnia, Afghanistan doesn't cut it anymore.

In our neighborhood already Indians are setting up base with Iranian help in Iranian Baluchistan and in Oman. We need to be proactive in this sort of thing.

@masterchief_mirza Some problem tagging you brother in the previous post.

My brother, any Pakistani can relate to Yunus Emre, Bediuzzaman, Mehmet Akif Ersoy.

If you can read İstiklal Marşı and not be drawn to tears, you are not a full-blooded Pakistani.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/İstiklal_Marşı

@masterchief_mirza

 

[Ultima Thule]

If Pakistan wants to start pushing its weight in the region, this is pretty much given.

It is not a matter of if, but when.

Pakistan and Turkey share the same goals in the region, which is to maintain normalcy and to prevent sectarianism.



Libyan flag. What do you guys think is the basis for this flag?

AFGHANISTAN FLAG

Real Libyan flag

WHAT THE HECK SIMPLE GREEN