Is Kaukab Noorani a scholar or a religious goon?

[The Sandman]

Shamila Ghyas
17th June 2016
Kaukab Noorani Okarvi came on TV and said that anyone who talked about Ahmadis or the blasphemy law should be killed (shot). His words were:

“ussi muqaam par ussey goli maar di jaaye”

But before we get to that, please tell me one thing, when a child does something or says something wrong or even throws a tantrum, what does the parent do? Does he shoot the child? Or does he try to reason and explain to him? Isn’t that the job of the parent? To patiently guide?

So what is the purpose of a scholar in an Islamic society? He is supposed to be the parent of the people of the nation. He is the person who is supposed to teach us all.


He is supposed to make sure he teaches us about harmony, to bring about peace, to teach about tolerance. He is supposed to hold us together as people.

When the scholar instead divides us and incites people to murder, he has failed miserably in every aspect there is; as a scholar, as a parent, as a guide, as a Pakistani, and even as a human.


A ‘man of God’ who tells others to take the life of a person who God himself has created? Would God himself approve of such a person?

Does the verse 5.32 in the Quran not say:

“Whoever kills a person it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.”

Who gave the power to these scholars to tell others to kill anyway?

This is nothing more than the arrogance of ‘Man’ who refuses to listen to another. God is not arrogant and does not need a mere human to pretend to be Him, which is exactly what these scholars do. They use religion to stroke their own egos and to push power over others.

“Allah ki marzi hogi” is the one of the most popular justifications when something goes wrong in our country. So where does this “Allah ki Marzi” disappear to when religious differences come about.

Kaukab Okarvi came on TV One Global and pretty much said that cold-blooded murder is okay. This is not only a failure on his part on being a scholar but also against the law of Pakistan.


This is a criminal offence - PPC: 503 -508 and under Sec 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act.

“If I don’t agree with you, you shall be killed. If you speak up, you should be killed!” pretty much sums up what he is saying to everyone.

His words alone tell us all that he is above the law!

Is he a scholar or a don or a goon? A religious goon?

He has not only threatened Hamza Ali Abbasi but every single citizen of Pakistan with his words. The only people who will side with him are the equally violent who care nothing about human life but rather just about being right.

PEMRA sent a notice when a TV drama highlighted child abuse, they sent a notice when a TV show showed the reality of Mullah mentality when he abused and tried to beat a journalist.

Where are they now when someone is enticing others to kill on TV?

As preachy as it sounds, this is the time for Pakistanis to stand together and show that we will not be threatened by thugs. Today he disagrees with Hamza and wants him killed, tomorrow it will be you.

It really is the time we took our country back from these Mullahs and made it Jinnah’s Pakistan the way it was intended to be.
http://nation.com.pk/blogs/17-Jun-2016/is-kaukab-noorani-a-scholar-or-a-religious-goon
@Zibago @Musafir117 @Hell hound @Moonlight

 

[CHI RULES]

Shamila Ghyas
17th June 2016
Kaukab Noorani Okarvi came on TV and said that anyone who talked about Ahmadis or the blasphemy law should be killed (shot). His words were:

“ussi muqaam par ussey goli maar di jaaye”

But before we get to that, please tell me one thing, when a child does something or says something wrong or even throws a tantrum, what does the parent do? Does he shoot the child? Or does he try to reason and explain to him? Isn’t that the job of the parent? To patiently guide?

So what is the purpose of a scholar in an Islamic society? He is supposed to be the parent of the people of the nation. He is the person who is supposed to teach us all.


He is supposed to make sure he teaches us about harmony, to bring about peace, to teach about tolerance. He is supposed to hold us together as people.

When the scholar instead divides us and incites people to murder, he has failed miserably in every aspect there is; as a scholar, as a parent, as a guide, as a Pakistani, and even as a human.


A ‘man of God’ who tells others to take the life of a person who God himself has created? Would God himself approve of such a person?

Does the verse 5.32 in the Quran not say:

“Whoever kills a person it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.”

Who gave the power to these scholars to tell others to kill anyway?

This is nothing more than the arrogance of ‘Man’ who refuses to listen to another. God is not arrogant and does not need a mere human to pretend to be Him, which is exactly what these scholars do. They use religion to stroke their own egos and to push power over others.

“Allah ki marzi hogi” is the one of the most popular justifications when something goes wrong in our country. So where does this “Allah ki Marzi” disappear to when religious differences come about.

Kaukab Okarvi came on TV One Global and pretty much said that cold-blooded murder is okay. This is not only a failure on his part on being a scholar but also against the law of Pakistan.


This is a criminal offence - PPC: 503 -508 and under Sec 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act.

“If I don’t agree with you, you shall be killed. If you speak up, you should be killed!” pretty much sums up what he is saying to everyone.

His words alone tell us all that he is above the law!

Is he a scholar or a don or a goon? A religious goon?

He has not only threatened Hamza Ali Abbasi but every single citizen of Pakistan with his words. The only people who will side with him are the equally violent who care nothing about human life but rather just about being right.

PEMRA sent a notice when a TV drama highlighted child abuse, they sent a notice when a TV show showed the reality of Mullah mentality when he abused and tried to beat a journalist.

Where are they now when someone is enticing others to kill on TV?

As preachy as it sounds, this is the time for Pakistanis to stand together and show that we will not be threatened by thugs. Today he disagrees with Hamza and wants him killed, tomorrow it will be you.

It really is the time we took our country back from these Mullahs and made it Jinnah’s Pakistan the way it was intended to be.
http://nation.com.pk/blogs/17-Jun-2016/is-kaukab-noorani-a-scholar-or-a-religious-goon
@Zibago @Musafir117 @Hell hound @Moonlight

Pakistani media now a days sorrowfully rasing matter which are controversial to fulfill the wishes of their masters. First they prepare a trap than call those religious people which have conservative thoughts and ideology. Most of the other participants are mostly of secular nature western paid. Then drama begins and a trapped Moulvi when is unable to use sugar quoted words gets abuses not only by partcipants but also from person hosting a talk show.

Same is case in drama pointed out in above article where JUI-F Parliamentarian got entangled in a useless verbal conflict with Marvi Simrid. The sorrowful fact is that the whole drama was started by nonsense Barrister who called Akhter Shirani who is almost at age of his grandfather Charsi only because he is a Maulvi. He just walked out of program after exchange of harsh words with Marvi Simrid and tht bloody barrister.

On the other hand Ahmedis are non Muslims and they should be given equal chances to leave their lives like other citizens. They are already enjoying many key positions in our political parties and both Civil/Military institutions.
Yes conflicts do occur between Ahmedis and Muslims as their religion is based on views opposite of Islam. If som one has studied their text shall not support them.

More over you can't bring religious rules are not governed by the Govt but only by Allah.

I am surprised that when a liberal person like me even who is un able to practice Islam fully can easily understand the drama behind Media talk shows why not our so called highly qualified people on social media.

 

[Jaam92]

First of all
Hamza did very wrong, this topic is very serious
Kaukab Noorani are those persons who get benefits from these type of topics then play with emotions of Pakistani People on the behalf of religion but it is truth they are just Religious GHUNDY

 

[Zibago]

 

[The Sandman]

Hamza did very wrong, this topic is very serious

So asking a question is wrong? Jamhooriyat hai ya ni hai?

 

[Jaam92]

It is not touchable subject if govt has announced that ahmadi are non muslims and every person who do not agreed that Muhammad SAW is Last Prophet (Messenger of Allah), All are non muslims and why are people are making an issue with it
It is more then clear every sect is agreed on it,

It is in our constitution that ahmadi and all person how do no agreed that Prophet Muhammad SAW is not Last Messenger of Allah are declared non Muslims
This topic is not debatable nor arguable
This topic could harm Hamza Ali Abbasi and I being a Pakistani do not want any restfulness activities more in My Country.

 

[Zibago]

Goon

 

[Musafir117]

Shamila Ghyas
17th June 2016
Kaukab Noorani Okarvi came on TV and said that anyone who talked about Ahmadis or the blasphemy law should be killed (shot). His words were:

“ussi muqaam par ussey goli maar di jaaye”

But before we get to that, please tell me one thing, when a child does something or says something wrong or even throws a tantrum, what does the parent do? Does he shoot the child? Or does he try to reason and explain to him? Isn’t that the job of the parent? To patiently guide?

So what is the purpose of a scholar in an Islamic society? He is supposed to be the parent of the people of the nation. He is the person who is supposed to teach us all.


He is supposed to make sure he teaches us about harmony, to bring about peace, to teach about tolerance. He is supposed to hold us together as people.

When the scholar instead divides us and incites people to murder, he has failed miserably in every aspect there is; as a scholar, as a parent, as a guide, as a Pakistani, and even as a human.


A ‘man of God’ who tells others to take the life of a person who God himself has created? Would God himself approve of such a person?

Does the verse 5.32 in the Quran not say:

“Whoever kills a person it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.”

Who gave the power to these scholars to tell others to kill anyway?

This is nothing more than the arrogance of ‘Man’ who refuses to listen to another. God is not arrogant and does not need a mere human to pretend to be Him, which is exactly what these scholars do. They use religion to stroke their own egos and to push power over others.

“Allah ki marzi hogi” is the one of the most popular justifications when something goes wrong in our country. So where does this “Allah ki Marzi” disappear to when religious differences come about.

Kaukab Okarvi came on TV One Global and pretty much said that cold-blooded murder is okay. This is not only a failure on his part on being a scholar but also against the law of Pakistan.


This is a criminal offence - PPC: 503 -508 and under Sec 7 of the Anti-Terrorism Act.

“If I don’t agree with you, you shall be killed. If you speak up, you should be killed!” pretty much sums up what he is saying to everyone.

His words alone tell us all that he is above the law!

Is he a scholar or a don or a goon? A religious goon?

He has not only threatened Hamza Ali Abbasi but every single citizen of Pakistan with his words. The only people who will side with him are the equally violent who care nothing about human life but rather just about being right.

PEMRA sent a notice when a TV drama highlighted child abuse, they sent a notice when a TV show showed the reality of Mullah mentality when he abused and tried to beat a journalist.

Where are they now when someone is enticing others to kill on TV?

As preachy as it sounds, this is the time for Pakistanis to stand together and show that we will not be threatened by thugs. Today he disagrees with Hamza and wants him killed, tomorrow it will be you.

It really is the time we took our country back from these Mullahs and made it Jinnah’s Pakistan the way it was intended to be.
http://nation.com.pk/blogs/17-Jun-2016/is-kaukab-noorani-a-scholar-or-a-religious-goon
@Zibago @Musafir117 @Hell hound @Moonlight

Very simple answer. We even not near with real teaching of Islam be Quran or Sirat e Nabwi AnHadhrat Mohammad SAW Sunna or Ahadees, we are become worst than Jahil Arabs of old days before Mohammad SAW Nazool, like how we step back with what our parents and their parents told us ( kitaben hoongi LEKIN ilam se khali ) if there is some law still exist in Pakistan that Ibne Noorani can book for spreading Fasad ah but the LAW.

 

[Hell hound]

mullah giri